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drrockso20
May 6, 2013

Has Not Actually Done Cocaine
The thing with Pat is that 95% of the time he's an rear end in a top hat or at least incredibly obnoxious, but that 5% of the time or so(these aren't hard numbers or anything mind you) we see something almost resembling a decent person shine through the smugness and ego, which is probably just enough for the rest of the cast to continue tolerating his existence as part of their extended friend group

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Happy Hippo
Aug 8, 2004

The Something Awful Forums > The Finer Arts > Batman's Shameful Secret > BSS Derailed Thread: Spider-Island

drrockso20 posted:

The thing with Pat is that 95% of the time he's an rear end in a top hat or at least incredibly obnoxious, but that 5% of the time or so(these aren't hard numbers or anything mind you) we see something almost resembling a decent person shine through the smugness and ego, which is probably just enough for the rest of the cast to continue tolerating his existence as part of their extended friend group

okay maybe but I always thought of it like, Pat was bros with Ray and Beef since small times so he's grandfathered in

Pentaro
May 5, 2013


Pat was definitely a Solid Dude during the whole Magreaux Dog debacle. That doesn't make him less of an rear end in a top hat.

drrockso20
May 6, 2013

Has Not Actually Done Cocaine

Happy Hippo posted:

okay maybe but I always thought of it like, Pat was bros with Ray and Beef since small times so he's grandfathered in

That's probably a very huge part of why the group is willing to tolerate him but there's probably more to it than that, after all Showbiz was from Small Times too but they're way less tolerant of his shenanigans even though he's barely any worse than Pat is much of the time

Nessus
Dec 22, 2003

After a Speaker vote, you may be entitled to a valuable coupon or voucher!



Pat at least observes the Forms of friendship. He allows Phillipe to view his fish, even if he is Unwelcome.

Showbiz is a machine for extracting seventy dollars from Beef's wallet.

smarxist
Jul 26, 2018

by Fluffdaddy

Nessus posted:

Pat at least observes the Forms of friendship. He allows Phillipe to view his fish, even if he is Unwelcome.

Showbiz is a machine for extracting seventy dollars from Beef's wallet.

Yeah well how else is he going to get the jack booted thugs from Rockford Fosgate to stop trying to repo his fancy stereo equipment :mad:

Zefiel
Sep 14, 2007

You can do whatever you want in life.


Beef suggesting that Showbiz might even break even if he sells the stereo equipment AND his car and Showbiz going "car..? You don't get it, do you, Beef?" was quite good

the numa numa song
Oct 3, 2006

Even though
I'm better than you
I am not

Nessus posted:


Showbiz is a machine for extracting seventy dollars from Beef's wallet.

We shoud party

drrockso20
May 6, 2013

Has Not Actually Done Cocaine

Zefiel posted:

Beef suggesting that Showbiz might even break even if he sells the stereo equipment AND his car and Showbiz going "car..? You don't get it, do you, Beef?" was quite good

The idea that Showbiz never had a car in the first place but is addicted to buying equipment he can't even use due to not having a car is possibly one of the most ridiculous things Onstad ever came up with for Achewood

Or at least that's always been my interpretation of that line

Oxxidation
Jul 22, 2007
that’s the implication. showbiz is addicted to collecting car stereo equipment, despite not owning (or I suspect being legally able to drive in at least 30 states) a car

Philippe
Aug 9, 2013

(she/her)
Dude has a complex plan for going cross country by only using free airport transit buses, of course he doesn't have a car.

Gnoman
Feb 12, 2014

Come, all you fair and tender maids
Who flourish in your pri-ime
Beware, take care, keep your garden fair
Let Gnoman steal your thy-y-me
Le-et Gnoman steal your thyme




drrockso20 posted:

The idea that Showbiz never had a car in the first place but is addicted to buying equipment he can't even use due to not having a car is possibly one of the most ridiculous things Onstad ever came up with for Achewood

Or at least that's always been my interpretation of that line

I've seen it in real life.

drrockso20
May 6, 2013

Has Not Actually Done Cocaine
Showbiz has to be the single dumbest character in the comic, and considering that list includes at least two instances of Ray getting brain damage, Little Nephew, Bad Future Phillipe, and Molly's brother Taffy that is really saying something

JethroMcB
Jan 23, 2004

We're normal now.
We love your family.
The poor brother cat has no car

davidspackage
May 16, 2007

Nap Ghost
*phone rings at 4am*

Beef! Beef, I bought this NFT and now I own Star Wars!

trilobite terror
Oct 20, 2007
BUT MY LIVELIHOOD DEPENDS ON THE FORUMS!

davidspackage posted:

*phone rings at 4am*

Beef! Beef, I bought this NFT and now I own Star Wars!

lol

Pershing
Feb 21, 2010

John "Black Jack" Pershing
Hard Fucking Core

davidspackage posted:

*phone rings at 4am*

Beef! Beef, I bought this NFT and now I own Star Wars!

Oh no its today

theironjef
Aug 11, 2009

The archmage of unexpected stinks.

Showbiz exists as a counterpoint to Lyle. Lyle may have aches and pains and lice in his morning wine, but he's developed pride and expertise in his world by living within his means for so long. Showbiz meanwhile refuses to acknowledge that he's a drifter, and keeps waking up in police stations.

Recall if you will the Onstad blog series where he went over the introduction of each character to the house, and when renting a patch of yard to Lyle, asked where he would go to the bathroom. Lyle said "You'll never find out, and if you think about it, that's the best possible answer." Showbiz meanwhile is excited to tell his terrible friend over the phone that he intends to make plop-plops in his sucker brother's house.

withak
Jan 15, 2003


Fun Shoe
Ray actually would own Star Wars though.

Halloween Jack
Sep 12, 2003
I WILL CUT OFF BOTH OF MY ARMS BEFORE I VOTE FOR ANYONE THAT IS MORE POPULAR THAN BERNIE!!!!!
My spouse did sales for a car audio company. They have talked to dozens of Showbizes and yes, as a matter of fact, many of them think buying a tweeter is the perfect time to sexually harass a stranger over the phone

withak
Jan 15, 2003


Fun Shoe
We are all ears if you know of a better time to sexually harass a stranger over the phone.

garfield hentai
Feb 29, 2004
WHAT IS THE PERFECT TIME TO SEXUALLY HARASS A STRANGER OVER THE PHONE? SEVEN?

THREE?!

davidspackage
May 16, 2007

Nap Ghost


I always remembered that second panel as Showbiz miming a blowjob until I went to look it up just now.

Zefiel
Sep 14, 2007

You can do whatever you want in life.


He's clearly doing a slide whistle

Wanderer
Nov 5, 2006

our every move is the new tradition

withak posted:

Ray actually would own Star Wars though.

This goes one of two ways.

A) Little Nephew sells him an "NFT" (cocktail napkin) for a couple hundred large and Ray only finds out the chicanery after he discovers he's now Reddit-infamous.

B) Ray's casual $60 purchase at a thrift store turns out to contain the original pre-Marcia Lucas cut of Star Wars, which is somehow so personally embarrassing to both Lucas and Kathleen Kennedy (turns out first-draft Han had a real space cocaine problem and the Luke/Leia relationship is best not explained while sober) that they offer him handsome sums to never mention it. Ray's sunny indifference to their issues is interpreted as blackmailer's hardball and by the end of that week, he has a corner office at Lucasfilm and a binding legal agreement that permits his secretarial pool unfettered access to the costume department. Beef is apoplectic; Ray regards this as a relatively dull chapter in the saga that is his life and actively refuses to acknowledge there is a difference between Trek and Wars.

trilobite terror
Oct 20, 2007
BUT MY LIVELIHOOD DEPENDS ON THE FORUMS!

Wanderer posted:

This goes one of two ways.

A) Little Nephew sells him an "NFT" (cocktail napkin) for a couple hundred large and Ray only finds out the chicanery after he discovers he's now Reddit-infamous.

B) Ray's casual $60 purchase at a thrift store turns out to contain the original pre-Marcia Lucas cut of Star Wars, which is somehow so personally embarrassing to both Lucas and Kathleen Kennedy (turns out first-draft Han had a real space cocaine problem and the Luke/Leia relationship is best not explained while sober) that they offer him handsome sums to never mention it. Ray's sunny indifference to their issues is interpreted as blackmailer's hardball and by the end of that week, he has a corner office at Lucasfilm and a binding legal agreement that permits his secretarial pool unfettered access to the costume department. Beef is apoplectic; Ray regards this as a relatively dull chapter in the saga that is his life and actively refuses to acknowledge there is a difference between Trek and Wars.

“—get this, Chapek, what about a buddy cop comedy....starring Mr Spock and the hairy guy that yells all the time—yeah, Chewbacca. That guy.”

smarxist
Jul 26, 2018

by Fluffdaddy

davidspackage posted:

*phone rings at 4am*


"Showbiz is dead..." o_o

Rev. Bleech_
Oct 19, 2004

~OKAY, WE'LL DRINK TO OUR LEGS!~

davidspackage posted:

*phone rings at 4am*



EDIT: Beaten like Cornelius' childhood drum

Howard Beale
Feb 22, 2001

It's like this, Peanut
WE SHOUD PARTY

robot roll call
Mar 7, 2006

dance dance dance dance dance to the radio


Dammit man, I ain't want to own Star Wars. No platinum ice playa ever rolled up to the chochichas at the JC Pennys Clinique counter ownin' Star Wars! It isn't done!

Vanilla Bison
Mar 27, 2010




Howard Beale posted:

WE SHOUD PARTY

he left a note, but not a very good one

trilobite terror
Oct 20, 2007
BUT MY LIVELIHOOD DEPENDS ON THE FORUMS!

robot roll call posted:

Dammit man, I ain't want to own Star Wars. No platinum ice playa ever rolled up to the chochichas at the JC Pennys Clinique counter ownin' Star Wars! It isn't done!

the smaller cat has found himself in possession of a multibillion dollar Disney film franchise, but he does not want to be

Zefiel
Sep 14, 2007

You can do whatever you want in life.


Beef! I need you to hack into Disney+ for me! I'm getting flamed left and right by all these ripe-rear end smelling beardos about a Mandee-Lorean? You gotta make it stop, man!

trilobite terror
Oct 20, 2007
BUT MY LIVELIHOOD DEPENDS ON THE FORUMS!
Ray executive produces The Book of Boba Fett, but instead of a tiresome mess of worthless fanservice about nothing, it’s a TV-MA rated erotic comedy aimed at women in the style of Sex and the City, based on a fanfic that Ray drunkenly found one time while looking for cakesitting porn.

In order to make it (against the protests of Chapek and the Disney board) Ray first has to beat the entire board of directors at a round of stoned golf, which he does with the help of Lyle and Todd.

The show is such a runaway success that George Lucas is inspired to come out of retirement and retake the reins of Star Wars and Ray is made the CEO of Disney. The end.

Rev. Bleech_
Oct 19, 2004

~OKAY, WE'LL DRINK TO OUR LEGS!~

"Rey who?"
"REY SMUCKLES. AND IT IS TODAY...THAT IS NOT A PROBLEM"

Ugly In The Morning
Jul 1, 2010
Pillbug

Nessus posted:

Pat at least observes the Forms of friendship. He allows Phillipe to view his fish, even if he is Unwelcome.

Showbiz is a machine for extracting seventy dollars from Beef's wallet.

It basically comes down to
“Pat is an rear end in a top hat but that’s because Pat is an rear end in a top hat. Showbiz is an rear end in a top hat because Showbiz is always trying to take advantage of someone”.

Everyone knows That Guy who’s a bit intense and a touch conceited, probably with awful opinions, but if you’re in a jam he doesn’t even think, he helps.

Showbiz is always “in a jam” and “thinking” of “someone else” named “Showbiz” (hey, he’s not you, so he’s totally putting someone else first).

Being an intense dickhead is easier to forgive than being a predatory loser.

KICK BAMA KICK
Mar 2, 2009

I was all set to agree -- you're not like thrilled that Pat comes to your wedding, but you're not worried you're going to have to hit him with a folding chair at any point, but: Pat has also shot Beef to death. Something to think about at least.

Ugly In The Morning
Jul 1, 2010
Pillbug

KICK BAMA KICK posted:

I was all set to agree -- you're not like thrilled that Pat comes to your wedding, but you're not worried you're going to have to hit him with a folding chair at any point, but: Pat has also shot Beef to death. Something to think about at least.

Not on purpose at least!

Gnoman
Feb 12, 2014

Come, all you fair and tender maids
Who flourish in your pri-ime
Beware, take care, keep your garden fair
Let Gnoman steal your thy-y-me
Le-et Gnoman steal your thyme




KICK BAMA KICK posted:

Pat has also shot Beef to death.

Beef wouldn't be having a wedding if Pat hadn't killed him.

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Oxxidation
Jul 22, 2007
imagine the outcome of showbiz exchanging words with ramses

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