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Groke
Jul 27, 2007
New Adventures In Mom Strength

Computer viking posted:

Norway never really did do piped gas to homes, except for a short period in Oslo back when it was also used for street lighting.

Actually most of our major towns had piped-gas systems for a good while. The one in Oslo was in operation for 130 years.

But yeah, they rapidly lost market share to electricity once that got going.

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Computer viking
May 30, 2011
Now with less breakage.

Groke posted:

Actually most of our major towns had piped-gas systems for a good while. The one in Oslo was in operation for 130 years.

But yeah, they rapidly lost market share to electricity once that got going.

Huh, thanks. Not sure where I got that from.

Also kind of interesting - we were early electricity adopters, sure, but why did it then displace gas so completely here? Was it just cheap & plentiful?

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius
I think there was just a period of time where electricity became very cheap and gas was a bit more expensive, so homes started switching to electric heat and appliances. At least that's what I heard happened in North America.

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

Computer viking posted:

Huh, thanks. Not sure where I got that from.

Also kind of interesting - we were early electricity adopters, sure, but why did it then displace gas so completely here? Was it just cheap & plentiful?

It's better in every way, OP, HTH.

Arsenic Lupin
Apr 12, 2012

This particularly rapid💨 unintelligible 😖patter💁 isn't generally heard🧏‍♂️, and if it is🤔, it doesn't matter💁.


Cojawfee posted:

I think there was just a period of time where electricity became very cheap and gas was a bit more expensive, so homes started switching to electric heat and appliances. At least that's what I heard happened in North America.

Also the gas industry ran ads, "Now you're cooking with gas!". http://insideenergy.org/2014/06/26/ie-questions-now-were-cooking-with-gas/ Mind you, in the '50s, the electrical industry gave builders little gold badges announcing that the house was an All-Electric-Home.

Groke
Jul 27, 2007
New Adventures In Mom Strength

Computer viking posted:

Huh, thanks. Not sure where I got that from.

Also kind of interesting - we were early electricity adopters, sure, but why did it then displace gas so completely here? Was it just cheap & plentiful?

Cheap hydro power drove industrialization (aluminium foundries and other such energy-intensive specialities) and was then also made available to the general population. First locally near the industrial plants, soon regionally and nationally.

Infrastructure for distributing electric power across a distance is much simpler and cheaper than doing the same with gas. And we are rather sparsely populated by European standards, so big advantage to electricity there.

These days, gas-powered appliances have a market niche that's mostly for cabins and boats and such.

Groke
Jul 27, 2007
New Adventures In Mom Strength

Humphreys posted:

Induction is more energy efficient and faster than gas.

Also has such advantages as empty stovetops not getting hot no matter how many buttons your toddler fiddles with.

Jasper Tin Neck
Nov 14, 2008


"Scientifically proven, rich and creamy."

Computer viking posted:

Huh, thanks. Not sure where I got that from.

Also kind of interesting - we were early electricity adopters, sure, but why did it then displace gas so completely here? Was it just cheap & plentiful?

Probably because the gas was coal gas from coal that had to be hauled all the way from Svalbard or imported and then gassified. Not only was it a pain, it was also dangerous.

Arsenic Lupin posted:

Gas-oven suicides were common when the gas in your home was coal gas, which contained carbon monoxide among other things. Nowadays it's "natural" gas.

Natural gas didn't really become a thing until the 1970s, when practically everyone in Norway already had electricity.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Groke posted:

Also has such advantages as empty stovetops not getting hot no matter how many buttons your toddler fiddles with.

Oh yeah forgot that very important part!

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius

Groke posted:

Also has such advantages as empty stovetops not getting hot no matter how many buttons your toddler fiddles with.

Unless your toddler has robot hands

Desert Bus
May 9, 2004

Take 1 tablet by mouth daily.

Groke posted:

Also has such advantages as empty stovetops not getting hot no matter how many buttons your toddler fiddles with.

How will they learn not to do this without the negative reinforcement from things getting hot? Seems like a bad design.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


He finally did it! This fucker was on my list of things I wanted to make me the coolest at school for what seemed like an eternity.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEME0IR6-Ts

Nocheez
Sep 5, 2000

Can you spare a little cheddar?
Nap Ghost

Humphreys posted:

He finally did it! This fucker was on my list of things I wanted to make me the coolest at school for what seemed like an eternity.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEME0IR6-Ts

I had not 1, but 2 of these things! The first I bought, the second a co-worker won at a bar trivia thing or some poo poo and brought it in after mine had been stolen. His was new in box, with all the cables and poo poo, so definitely not mine.

Anyways, the main problems were the time to transfer songs (long on a parallel port) and the low memory, only about 10-12 short songs with a decent quality would fit on it. I found some proto-podcast things and some comedy poo poo that really helped extend the usefulness, but I was glad to move on to better things once memory was cheap enough.

Flipperwaldt
Nov 11, 2011

Won't somebody think of the starving hamsters in China?



It just ate through batteries in standby mode nearly as fast as while playing back was another thing that sucked about it. But still kinda neat for the time.

mlnhd
Jun 4, 2002

It used a single AA battery which were cheap or you could get rechargeable ones.
I had to downsample all my mp3s to 96 kbps to get a full album to fit.
The clip on the battery door of mine broke, so I had to keep it closed with a rubberband.

Flipperwaldt
Nov 11, 2011

Won't somebody think of the starving hamsters in China?



Having to take the battery out because you're not going to use something for the next 36h or so is undignified, they should have put an actual off switch on it :colbert:

Nocheez
Sep 5, 2000

Can you spare a little cheddar?
Nap Ghost
Wait, what? I never had that problem. Didn't you just turn it off and that was that?

It has been almost 25 years... (holy poo poo lol)

Flipperwaldt
Nov 11, 2011

Won't somebody think of the starving hamsters in China?



The perfect time and way for me to find out I should have done a warranty exchange then!

Imagined
Feb 2, 2007
Having PlayStation, Xbox, and Switch controllers in my house really made me realize that I actually prefer the Xbox philosophy of removable batteries because swapping in spare rechargable ones every few days is a lot more convenient than either putting the whole controller on a charger every night or playing tethered while it recharges if you let it die.

GutBomb
Jun 15, 2005

Dude?

Nocheez posted:

I had not 1, but 2 of these things! The first I bought, the second a co-worker won at a bar trivia thing or some poo poo and brought it in after mine had been stolen. His was new in box, with all the cables and poo poo, so definitely not mine.

Anyways, the main problems were the time to transfer songs (long on a parallel port) and the low memory, only about 10-12 short songs with a decent quality would fit on it. I found some proto-podcast things and some comedy poo poo that really helped extend the usefulness, but I was glad to move on to better things once memory was cheap enough.

Back in 2000 I worked at Larry Flynt Publications in their fledgling digital division and they were exploring the possibility of starting an online gaming service (think gamespy plus DSL) so they sent me (a web dev who had a little Visual Basic experience) to E3 with flyers to gauge interest. I was a big fan of the game SiN back then and found the Ritual booth and they were having a deathmatch tournament. I joined on a whim and ended up coming in 3rd. One of these was the prize. It had 32MB storage. I think I could fit 6 songs on there. I remember it being a real pain in the rear end to change the songs around so I just left the initial few songs I put on there when I first got it.

I didn’t have it very long. I moved down to Orange County a couple months later for a new job and one day while running to catch the bus it flew out of my pocket and shattered into hundreds of pieces.

I can’t remember all of the songs I put on there but one song always reminds me of it, the Speedy J remix of Its no Good by Depeche Mode.

That E3 was really cool because it was just industry press allowed to attend back then (Flynt had a video game magazine, Tips and Tricks) and they had all kinds of playable stuff and it wasn’t insane crowded or anything like that. I got to see some “secret” presentation of the Xbox that didn’t actually feature any hardware or game footage, some San Francisco Rush game, an undercooked Diablo 2 beta and tons of swag.

Sorry for the incoherent stream of memories.

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Mr.Radar
Nov 5, 2005

You guys aren't going to believe this, but that guy is our games teacher.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYpTd10U2Mg

GWBBQ
Jan 2, 2005


I miss my old TV that I had to leave behind when I moved, even though I barely got to use it. It was a 40" HD CRT and wasnt a Trinitron, but followed Trinitron rule #1 - it only goes down stairs, never up. Every friend and relative I asked about helping with it told me in no uncertain terms that I could go gently caress myself if I thought they were going to help pick it up.

Imagined posted:

Having PlayStation, Xbox, and Switch controllers in my house really made me realize that I actually prefer the Xbox philosophy of removable batteries because swapping in spare rechargable ones every few days is a lot more convenient than either putting the whole controller on a charger every night or playing tethered while it recharges if you let it die.
Do you have the USB rechargeables? I love them.

GreenNight
Feb 19, 2006
Turning the light on the darkest places, you and I know we got to face this now. We got to face this now.

Or just have two controllers with one constantly docked.

Rebel Blob
Mar 1, 2008

Extinction for our time

https://twitter.com/DanRyckert/status/1490347049585238021

LifeSunDeath
Jan 4, 2007

still gay rights and smoke weed every day

Holy poo poo this is amazing. Nintendo was shook as hell.

Electrophotonic
Mar 14, 2010

They're gonna stop
Saturday night
So you better have fun now
I PREDICT


mlnhd posted:

It used a single AA battery which were cheap or you could get rechargeable ones.
I had to downsample all my mp3s to 96 kbps to get a full album to fit.
The clip on the battery door of mine broke, so I had to keep it closed with a rubberband.



:hfive:

(I had completely forgot about that issue until I dug this up, I loved mine so much I drew it for an art assignment in early high school)

Last Chance
Dec 31, 2004

Haha drat, Nintendo sure got owned there. Everything uses CD-ROM now! Can you even imagine a world where games don't run on optical discs?

Electrophotonic
Mar 14, 2010

They're gonna stop
Saturday night
So you better have fun now
I PREDICT


it usually had at least a few final fantasy mp3s on it

Nocheez
Sep 5, 2000

Can you spare a little cheddar?
Nap Ghost

Electrophotonic posted:



:hfive:

(I had completely forgot about that issue until I dug this up, I loved mine so much I drew it for an art assignment in early high school)

That's amazing! I never broke my battery door, but I did use it to listen to music my senior year of highschool art classes.

Dick Trauma
Nov 30, 2007

God damn it, you've got to be kind.
https://twitter.com/NanoRaptor/status/1490583806608171008?s=20&t=lz3WC8y91mRM742To6M8lw

Zopotantor
Feb 24, 2013

...und ist er drin dann lassen wir ihn niemals wieder raus...

That's a step up from the T-800’s Apple][ assembly.

Powered Descent
Jul 13, 2008

We haven't had that spirit here since 1969.

Robocop apparently ran on MS-DOS.

grimace
Jun 20, 2001

Jon Bence don't take
no phone surveys
because he's dead
RIP 19__ - 2009, 580 lbs

Powered Descent posted:

Robocop apparently ran on MS-DOS.



Or QDOS.

Rev. Bleech_
Oct 19, 2004

~OKAY, WE'LL DRINK TO OUR LEGS!~

LifeSunDeath posted:

Holy poo poo this is amazing. Nintendo was shook as hell.

I remember as far back as 1991/92 they were putting "hey guys CD-ROM is slow dogshit gently caress that" in Nintendo Power. As soon as those Sony and Philips deals fell through they couldn't poo poo on optical fast enough.

Crime on a Dime
Nov 28, 2006

Electrophotonic posted:



:hfive:

(I had completely forgot about that issue until I dug this up, I loved mine so much I drew it for an art assignment in early high school)

not obsolete but can you please draw a Switch in the same style? That would be sick.

Mega Comrade
Apr 22, 2004

Listen buddy, we all got problems!

Arsenic Lupin posted:

Also the gas industry ran ads, "Now you're cooking with gas!". http://insideenergy.org/2014/06/26/ie-questions-now-were-cooking-with-gas/ Mind you, in the '50s, the electrical industry gave builders little gold badges announcing that the house was an All-Electric-Home.

Climate town did a video on just this topic recently.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hX2aZUav-54

Cool channel, covers some 'fun' topics.

Their most recently video finally explained to me why the USA has such weird housing.

Mega Comrade has a new favorite as of 10:27 on Feb 8, 2022

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Mail day!

(crossposting for those that browse the retrogames thread)

I really do wish myself and others would stop saying PSX when they mean PS1/PSOne.

Well at least now I can use it and mean the real thing!

VERY well packed - excessively so


Tidy, a bit dirty, but it DOES include the front and rear panels which is nice, and all soft pads. Unfortunately the seller is a douchebag and substituted the white controller shown in photos on the listing with a busted and grotty standard black controller. Buyee are investigating now, responded to my email in like 15 minutes.


It works, HDD is fine and at least recognises out of region games (won't play them)


A WHOLE lot of DVR content on it! Including Resident Evil movie lol. I gotta back this thing up ASAP - who knows what wonders are recorded!?

90s Solo Cup
Feb 22, 2011

To understand the cup
He must become the cup



Nice. I was always fascinated by the PSX, not realizing at the time that it would pave the way for the PS3 and future consoles. I wish Sony had brought it over to the US market.

Crime on a Dime
Nov 28, 2006

90s Solo Cup posted:

Nice. I was always fascinated by the PSX, not realizing at the time that it would pave the way for the PS3 and future consoles. I wish Sony had brought it over to the US market.

wait til you find about about the inventor(?) of Jazz

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Michaeldim
Jan 29, 2011

:byodood:
Thrift store find from yesterday:







It doubles as an answering machine with a microcassette! The phone handset is full-size too, not a tiny one like faxes normally have, so IDK if they intended this to be used as a giant deskphone w/ a fax or what, but it looks rad.

Prints on thermal paper but very poorly. IDK if its bad paper or a dirty head but I'm gonna try cleaning it later.

oh it will also record whole-rear end calls to the cassette if you hit the memo button in a call, which is cool.

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