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There are far deeper problems if throwing a water bottle leads to a genuine self defence argument
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Feb 2, 2022 04:53
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There are so many people who post in the car-hating thread to defend drivers doing objectively insane things and I don't understand it. Car brain is worse than worm brains
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Feb 2, 2022 04:55
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Jestery posted:There are far deeper problems if throwing a water bottle leads to a genuine self defence argument they use that rationale all the time to exonerate drivers for running people over
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Feb 2, 2022 05:00
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lets hear it for the car brained gun fuckers! hip hip-
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Clark Nova posted:they use that rationale all the time to exonerate drivers for running people over I can atleast follow that line of logic "THE CAR is under attack, use the defence of THE CAR" it's not right but I can follow the line of logic the shooting is just so emblematic of gun culture, like if I was driving and heard a bang on my car , my immediate response isn't a gun, it's "what the hell was that" to immediately bring out a gun isn't a cultural response I could ever have It's why I mean a deeper problem than just car culture
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Feb 2, 2022 05:07
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The worst part about trying to Google "Florida road rage shooting" is just how many responses there are.
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Feb 2, 2022 05:26
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unloading a full clip on basically any car anywhere near me when i'm on a bike because car-brain guys said it's justified self-defense
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Feb 2, 2022 05:30
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the correct response for both drivers, was to drive their cars into bollards immediately
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Feb 2, 2022 05:33
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my wife and i are trying to conceive baby number 2 (hopefully no miscarriage this time lol) and it rocks that, because of the lovely car dependent nature of houston, one extra child means two extra car seats (since we both need our own cars to live and get around here). every time i strap my lil boy into his car seat it boggles my mind how we deform our lives around these fuckin 2 ton mobility cages.
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Jestery posted:I can atleast follow that line of logic really?
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Feb 2, 2022 05:53
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Jestery posted:the shooting is just so emblematic of gun culture, like if I was driving and heard a bang on my car , my immediate response isn't a gun, it's "what the hell was that" to immediately bring out a gun isn't a cultural response I could ever have he had the gun out before he heard the bang, watch the video. he was prepared to shoot that guy from the moment he brake checked him
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Feb 2, 2022 05:55
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It's not running a stop sign, see, the car was only going 2 MPH  https://twitter.com/WholeMarsBlog/status/1488590960053276672?t=VwkT1fyqA2kaOmQJCTlwLA&s=19 Note: the car was going unanimously higher than 2 MPH in the videos I've seen. Who wants to get the interpretation of "no one there" is complete poo poo and is going to murder folks?
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Feb 2, 2022 05:55
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Man Musk posted:jesus christ just stick newspapers and mailers into every exhaust pipe u see and hope for the best https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSdnI3cXyAQ
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Feb 2, 2022 05:58
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Cugel the Clever posted:It's not running a stop sign, see, the car was only going 2 MPH lol this poo poo is so funny. "it's not running a stop sign it's simply slowing down and rolling through without coming to a complete stop!" which is literally running a stop sign. you have to stop! it's right there on the sign. destroy all cars, and perhaps many drivers as well.
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Feb 2, 2022 06:05
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Cup Runneth Over posted:really? I mean yeah It's why this video has gone viral, if instead of getting his gun out he had rammed him I could say "well that's dumb, but car brain Gunna car brain" Whereas ,as you describe this dude just itching to shoot someone is loving terrifying and emblematic of a deeper problem than car brain
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Dolphin posted:wut WTF do u drink oil with then?
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I haven't really been following the updated Highway Code in the UK, but the car-brained reactions are predictable, whether or not the changes are actually significant. But this article is a new level of bad journalism Drivers are calling for new Highway Code changes to be axed after two days We have quote:Drivers in the UK are calling for the latest changes to the Highway Code to be axed over fears they could be unsafe. Which drivers? All drivers? Drivers generally? quote:Action group Voters for Motors is worried that a new road user hierarchy could result in an increased number of road traffic accidents. Oh. A lobby group. But apparently a surprisingly powerful one: quote:The group is set to meet on Tuesday to look at potentially scrapping the updated rules to the Highway Code. Bizarre phrasing that makes it sound like this group has veto power over the rule change. But what are the terrible new rules that are making motorists' lives a misery? The only one vaguely alluded to is quote:A spokesperson said: “Our concerns over the Highway Code include the fact that encouraging the undertaking and overtaking of vehicles intending to turn by cyclists will cause more crashes that drivers will be blamed for under the new ‘hierarchy of road users’,” they told MailOnline. Translation: we want to be able to turn across a cycle lane to the car's left (UK: "easy" turn) without looking. That's it. The only other changes mentioned are the "hierarchy of road users" (not expanded upon, because self-evidently outrageous that motorists are held more responsible), and quote:Under the new rules, cyclists are now advised to ride in the centre of lanes on quieter roads, in slower-moving traffic, and when approaching junctions, to make themselves as visible as possible. Which is printed twice, - I guess those are the only 3 things, so they had to repeat one to fill space But it's not their fault: quote:“Almost two thirds of drivers polled said that they never brush up on changes to the Highway Code themselves. So that's fine! E: here's an article with some actual information The new rule about giving way to someone waiting to cross the side-road you're turning into will be fun, given that approx 0.1% of motorists seemed to know the existing rule (give way when someone's started to cross) and yell at you for getting in their way 
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Feb 2, 2022 12:25
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Ham Equity posted:I feel like maybe a public policy of "if someone throws a water bottle at you, please feel free to fire off 11 bullets on a freeway in the name of self-defense" creates some perverse incentives. Water bottles have been declared weapons by my local police, so this checks out.
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Bobstar posted:I haven't really been following the updated Highway Code in the UK, but the car-brained reactions are predictable, whether or not the changes are actually significant. It's a shame that the uk has some of the world's worst car-brain, because otherwise england seems like an excellent place to bike. If you set off from London there are tons of insanely picturesque towns and villages within 50 miles. Whereas, the US is mostly a network of hell-suburbs with nothing to see, to, or eat, separated by 500 miles of highway Polo-Rican has issued a correction as of 16:03 on Feb 2, 2022 |
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Driver strikes elderly woman in crosswalk, killing her. The video shows the driver is unambiguously in the wrong, but, as is often the case for automotive violence, they were allowed to just drive away and have yet to be charged. https://twitter.com/DaveCoIon/status/1488603065334865923?t=0EE1ByHLAH2xYyDrR94xig&s=19
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Polo-Rican posted:It's a shame that the uk has some of the world's worst car-brain, because otherwise england seems like an excellent place to bike. If you set off from London there are tons of insanely picturesque towns and villages within 50 miles. Whereas, the US is mostly a network of hell-suburbs with nothing to see, to, or eat, separated by 500 miles of highway driving around local highways really did a number on some German exchange students I helped host a while back. they were disturbed at all of the endless strip malls and car lots and ugly roads. Nevermind the ugly, ugly suburb houses, especially those constructed post 1980s. all of the photos and culture that the US exports avoids the vast ugly sameness nowheresville that’s been constructed around car dependence and tract housing development. I hate cars
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Cugel the Clever posted:Driver strikes elderly woman in crosswalk, killing her. The video shows the driver is unambiguously in the wrong, but, as is often the case for automotive violence, they were allowed to just drive away and have yet to be charged. a fatal coming into contact with an SUV unfolded
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bi crimes posted:driving around local highways really did a number on some German exchange students I helped host a while back. they were disturbed at all of the endless strip malls and car lots and ugly roads. Nevermind the ugly, ugly suburb houses, especially those constructed post 1980s. are you implying that this isn't what the cultural center of a town should look like 
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Cugel the Clever posted:Driver strikes elderly woman in crosswalk, killing her. The video shows the driver is unambiguously in the wrong, but, as is often the case for automotive violence, they were allowed to just drive away and have yet to be charged. wow, are you implying there should be consequences for killing someone while engaging in an illegal traffic maneuver? sounds like you hate poor people
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If I ever need to murder someone I am going to do it in broad daylight at an intersection with my car then immediately turn myself in and act sad about it. I expect to be home in time for dinner.
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Feb 2, 2022 18:05
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Cugel the Clever posted:Driver strikes elderly woman in crosswalk, killing her. The video shows the driver is unambiguously in the wrong, but, as is often the case for automotive violence, they were allowed to just drive away and have yet to be charged. Edit: Also it looks like the pedestrian didn't have a helmet or a bell so it's clearly her fault mystes has issued a correction as of 18:51 on Feb 2, 2022 |
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withak posted:If I ever need to murder someone I am going to do it in broad daylight at an intersection with my car then immediately turn myself in and act sad about it. I expect to be home in time for dinner. This would absolutely work.
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Polo-Rican posted:are you implying that this isn't what the cultural center of a town should look like just a literal crime to the human spirit
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lol i saw a couple "older" (like mid-2000s i think) trucks in the parking lot at the grocery store today. really striking how even those big boys are so much smaller and less aggressive looking than the fuckin raptors and f150 platinums and rams and poo poo. terrible. gotta outlaw it!
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someone posted a video of themselves cycling to the grocery store in germany in the fuckcars subreddit and it immediately drew out all the most carbrained defenses of living in a lovely suburban sprawl. i particularly like all the people who are like "who goes to the store every day" or "what if i need to buy three couches and a dozen watermelons" people are broken
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Magic Hate Ball posted:someone posted a video of themselves cycling to the grocery store in germany in the fuckcars subreddit and it immediately drew out all the most carbrained defenses of living in a lovely suburban sprawl. i particularly like all the people who are like "who goes to the store every day" or "what if i need to buy three couches and a dozen watermelons" You know what you do when you need to haul something like a couch or a lot of construction materials or something really big from a store? You have it delivered.
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Or just rent a truck for a day
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on the one hand the shooter was not justified in shooting a person for throwing a water bottle. on the other hand he was shooting a car so it's impossible to say if what he did is good or bad
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yeah it's very funny that people spend tens of thousands of dollars buying vehicles with functions they don't need or hardly ever need (like towing or massive cargo space) when it would be far cheaper to just have a small car as your daily driver and just rent a truck when you need it. well of course it would be best if they didnt need to own a car at all but as it stands people get way more vehicle than they need. people have tried to talk me into getting a big van or suv because i have a kid now, like... the car seat fits just fine in my car thanks.
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The arms race is only going to escalate. Soon everyone will be packing some sort of anti-car or car-to-car firearm.
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Americans are the modern Eurasian steppe peoples, unrivaled in our mastery of both the personal automobile and firearm. A warrior people, free, untamed, and unconquerable.
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Magic Hate Ball posted:someone posted a video of themselves cycling to the grocery store in germany in the fuckcars subreddit and it immediately drew out all the most carbrained defenses of living in a lovely suburban sprawl. i particularly like all the people who are like "who goes to the store every day" or "what if i need to buy three couches and a dozen watermelons" People can't even understand that it would be nicer to be able to walk across the street to pick up one or two items whenever they need them rather than having to drive 30 minutes each way to the supermarket. We can't make things better for walking/biking because everyone drives, so driving is the only serious mode of transportation, because we've made everything suck for walking/biking.
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The other funny thing is the most practical vehicle you can have with a family, the mini-van, is looked down at as effete and unmanly, when the cargo space is usually same as or greater than a big truck, it's protected from the elements, and the lift height is lower so you can actually get things in and out of the cargo area. Mini-van > Bro-dozer. But definitely bicycle if you can swing it.
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