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Yeah the rumbling by itself doesn't seem that horrific...
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I'm wondering if the ending is going to be a total genocidal apocalypse with both Eren and Zeke getting their wishes. Zeke sterilizes all Eldians and the Rumbling kills everyone outside of Paradis. Since Eren is literally a dying head at this moment, presumably after the wishes are granted he'll finish dying and without any new Eldians being born and with no one available to eat Eren immediately, the founding Titan will be lost completely and there will be no way to undo everything.
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Feb 1, 2022 20:18
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Eren will be coming back somehow, no way he dies like that
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Feb 1, 2022 20:23
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Alan_Shore posted:Yeah the rumbling by itself doesn't seem that horrific... 
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Feb 1, 2022 20:26
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So fun thing to think about. My friend was confused at what Eren knew about the future. We figured out that Eren saw the whole future when he kissed Historia's hand, but my friend was like, "Well does he just a photographic memory of everything he saw?!" And the answer is "No". That's why Eren still acts surprised by things that happen. Much like someone recalling their past experiences, he knows the broad strokes of what is coming but can't recall moment to moment what is going to happen. He knows Mikasa will save him from the Warhammer, and that he'll eat it, but not exactly when or how. So we get, "Now or never Mikasa.", and him telling her that now he'll eat it.
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Feb 1, 2022 21:56
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Alan_Shore posted:Yeah the rumbling by itself doesn't seem that horrific... Isn't the rumbling literally leveling every nation to the ground Alan_Shore posted:Eren will be coming back somehow, no way he dies like that I'm assuming ymir will rebuild him like she did for zeke
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Feb 2, 2022 02:23
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Hey when the gently caress are we gonna find out what happened to levi
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ninjewtsu posted:Hey when the gently caress are we gonna find out what happened to levi He's dead. After all, Hange said he was dead, and why would anyone ever lie to Floch?
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Feb 2, 2022 03:12
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Alan_Shore posted:Yeah the rumbling by itself doesn't seem that horrific... Before now I figured Eren was doing a Dune and Using 'future memories' of possible branches of the future to try to steer events in a direction that turned out best for everyone. Everything from killing all those people in Marley to ruining all his friendships were necessary evils and it was going to be revealed towards the end that Eren was only doing all this to try to save as many lives as possible/stop the apocalypse I guess that wasn't the case. Now I'm pretty certain he's been manipulating events in the past to try to steer everything to this point and he's planning to set in motion the rumbling not to warn everyone to stay away from Eldia but to straight up kill each and every person across the ocean just like he pretty much said he was going to do at the end of season 3. Which sounds pretty drat horrific. Hell of a twist.
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Feb 2, 2022 03:37
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To be fair I was thinking of the Rumbling as more of a deterrent to stop other nations from attacking. If Eren is sending millions of giant titans to Marley then... oh boy
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Feb 2, 2022 03:48
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The Paradis/Zeke plan was just a little Rumbling, as a treat.
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Feb 2, 2022 03:49
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Eren's not pulling a Paul Atreides either. He can't see many possible futures, just the ONE future that he is destined to experience. So basically all he (and Grisha) can see is the actions he will take and the results of those actions, but he can't change what he's going to do based on that information though.
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Feb 2, 2022 03:54
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Anonymous Zebra posted:Eren's not pulling a Paul Atreides either. He can't see many possible futures, just the ONE future that he is destined to experience. So basically all he (and Grisha) can see is the actions he will take and the results of those actions, but he can't change what he's going to do based on that information though. Yeah I see that now, though before this episode it was a little vaguer how the 'future memories' were being experienced.
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Feb 2, 2022 04:01
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My understanding of The Rumbling is that it would unleash the (tens of?) thousands of Colossal Titans inside the walls who would be totally under Eren’s control, and not have any agency like Beertoto/Armin. Seeing what Armin did to the Eldian ghetto in Marley makes me think that would be A Bad Thing. Just getting them out could turn all of Paradis into a plate of glass...
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Feb 2, 2022 04:21
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They're already transformed so they wouldn't explode like the Colossal can (which is a voluntary ability either way).
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Anonymous Zebra posted:Eren's not pulling a Paul Atreides either. He can't see many possible futures, just the ONE future that he is destined to experience. So basically all he (and Grisha) can see is the actions he will take and the results of those actions, but he can't change what he's going to do based on that information though. Yeah pretty much the same as the Tralfamadorian aliens in Kurt Vonnegut's 'Slaughterhouse Five'. They experience reality in four dimensions so they're able to perceive any point in time, although they're not able to prevent events from happening. Fun fact: a version of the Tralfamadorians first appeared in Vonnegut's 1959 novel 'The Sirens Of Titan'.
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Feb 2, 2022 05:15
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I'm really dreading finding out Eren's grand plan in regards to Historia.
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Feb 2, 2022 06:47
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The one thing you can count on is that Eren will look after his friends. After all he wouldn't let her eat Zeke and didn't speak up when he figured out his power
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Toxic Fart Syndrome posted:My understanding of The Rumbling is that it would unleash the (tens of?) thousands of Colossal Titans inside the walls who would be totally under Eren’s control, and not have any agency like Beertoto/Armin. I remember Japanese fans doing the math to estimate the number of Wall Titans and they came to the conclusion of there being around 500 to 600 thousand Wall Titans given the size of Paradis (since it's literally Not Madagascar). We got to see the results of a Rumbling in the second ED and it wasn't pretty. I also would implore people to go back and watch that ED before the next episode coming up.
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Feb 2, 2022 11:51
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If angry faces were a consistent clue, she'd be the next attack titan. Yawgmoft posted:I'm really dreading finding out Eren's grand plan in regards to Historia. I considered the possibility Historia is controlling Eren, but there aren't any hints to that regard. However, Frieda could have planted something in Historia, either because she could read the future as well or she had her own plan to override the king's will.
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I doubt Frieda could do anything but I'd bet the Founder Ymir isn't as much a mindless slave as Zeke thinks. She at least had enough initiative to save him at the start of this season without any prompting. Considering she had all the titan powers when she was alive and they all split from her, shouldn't she have been able to see the future too? Also I don't think Eren has anything sinister planned for Historia. His whole plan seems to have happened because he refuses to let her become a royal blooded titan and pump out babies for 13 years, which was what the militaries plan was iirc. Nephthys fucked around with this message at 13:56 on Feb 2, 2022 |
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Iirc the historia baby plan was Zeke's plan, the military just kinda looked at it and went "uh, well, yeah I guess that makes sense" and have mostly tried to avoid mentioning it despite it being the big gross elephant in the room with that plan
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Vanderdeath posted:I remember Japanese fans doing the math to estimate the number of Wall Titans and they came to the conclusion of there being around 500 to 600 thousand Wall Titans given the size of Paradis (since it's literally Not Madagascar). We got to see the results of a Rumbling in the second ED and it wasn't pretty. I also would implore people to go back and watch that ED before the next episode coming up. Schwarzwald fucked around with this message at 01:59 on Feb 3, 2022 |
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1700s world population is 600 million. 600 thousand isn't unreasonable considering that settled states pre 0 BCE were throwing around tens of thousands of soldiers in wars. And those were trained combatants, while titan soldiers can be recruited from anyone in your population.
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I'm hoping that was a typo. You'd have to go back tens of thousands of years or more to be below the million mark.
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Decimals are hard.
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Willy Tybur claimed there were tens of millions of colossal titans in the walls. He could've been exaggerating but I remember seeing a YouTube video about how the scale in the show is all over the place based on what seems coolest so who knows.
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iirc there's a lot of detailed info on exactly how large things are but the show (especially in its visuals) will exaggerate these details to better fit the scene. you could say that willy was exaggerating, that he did not himself know and got this info second hand from someone who was exaggerating, or that the show itself was exaggerating the numbers and we're not meant to read into willy's knowledge of that specific figure. also, while someone on reddit may have done the math, the author may not have and just ballparked a really big number
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This could be a dumb idea and is influenced heavily by FF7R (no specific events mentioned here but broad thematic spoilers I suppose), but I’d been operating under the assumption that Eren was being guided by some future memories and was attempting to bring about a positive end result based on those memories. The last few posts have made me consider what his natural reaction to seeing the future would be. If there’s one thing he hates, it’s being told what he can and can’t do, and there’s nothing more restrictive than “this is what will happen and there’s nothing you can do about it.” I guess I’m starting to think he’s doing the exact opposite of what I’d assume. Not sure if that resolves whether he’s in any way justifiable in his actions, but it does seem like a plausible read of what he might be doing.
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drat this show owns. Not sure I can think of anyone who got owned harder than Zeke did in this episode
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Irony Be My Shield posted:drat this show owns. Not sure I can think of anyone who got owned harder than Zeke did in this episode Zeke in the first half of season 4 Zeke in season 3
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It's just so delicious to see Zeke, a wannabe Liquid Ocelot in terms of duplicity and betrayal, get utterly bodied by someone who held a much, much better hand of cards than him. Especially when he was so sure he had the upper hand.
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Zeke snitched his parents out to the cops and has gotten exactly what he deserved in life 
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Zeke can never be too owned, its true.
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Vanderdeath posted:We got to see the results of a Rumbling in the second ED and it wasn't pretty. I also would implore people to go back and watch that ED before the next episode coming up. I'm an idiot and don't know what ED stands for in this context. The acronym means like five different things to me.
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Lazy_Liberal posted:I'm an idiot and don't know what ED stands for in this context. The acronym means like five different things to me. Ending. It's the song and video that plays over the credits.
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Vanderdeath posted:I remember Japanese fans doing the math to estimate the number of Wall Titans and they came to the conclusion of there being around 500 to 600 thousand Wall Titans given the size of Paradis (since it's literally Not Madagascar). We got to see the results of a Rumbling in the second ED and it wasn't pretty. I also would implore people to go back and watch that ED before the next episode coming up. i actually went back and watched all the endings after this post and its really amazing how nostalgic they are. any one really takes me back to that season, and whatever was going on in my life at the time. also nostalgic for parts of the series like oh haha yeah i remember that, those were good times (but actually they were only good in comparison to what happens later.)
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chiasaur11 posted:Ending. It's the song and video that plays over the credits. thank you. much better than eating disorders, erectile dysfunction, or executive directors. i will go back and watch the EDs now.
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DamnitGannet posted:i actually went back and watched all the endings after this post and its really amazing how nostalgic they are. any one really takes me back to that season, and whatever was going on in my life at the time. also nostalgic for parts of the series like oh haha yeah i remember that, those were good times (but actually they were only good in comparison to what happens later.) Great Escape was the fuckin best, hey I always wanted to try and mash it up with the ending to the Dangan Ronpa 1 anime that was also out at the time, but I ended up not figuring out how to do mashups
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Shock was my favorite ED, though the s2 ED deserves the most recognition
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