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Live life a quarter mile at a time!! (I’m kidding I would be disappointed with the mach e gt not living up to the performance as well, regardless of how often I booted it)
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bird with big dick posted:Fun fact: as tested by Car and Driver, a 2021 Mustang Mach-E GT Performance Edition is 3 mph slower through the 1/4 mile traps than a 1999 Z28 Camaro (though of course the Mustang has a quicker ET). A local jeep dealer gave me 15k over Carvana and Vroom for my model X so 
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PenisMonkey posted:How often do you go to the drag strip? Never, if I own a car that traps 101. Regularly, if I have a car that runs 11s.
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Feb 3, 2022 02:39
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Tenchrono posted:A local jeep dealer gave me 15k over Carvana and Vroom for my model X so Trade in or outright buy? I'm kinda surprised Carmax wasn't stronger considering they have an actual local dealership.
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Feb 3, 2022 02:40
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priznat posted:Live life a quarter mile at a time!! Yeah it's not really (just) about the trap speeds its more what the trap speeds say about it's hp and performance above 60 mph
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Feb 3, 2022 02:42
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bird with big dick posted:Trade in or outright buy? Outright buy for 70k. This is in Boulder Colorado so your mileage may vary.
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Feb 3, 2022 02:48
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Tenchrono posted:A local jeep dealer gave me 15k over Carvana and Vroom for my model X so Carvana low-balled my truck by $10k in 2020. I'm surprised they have a good reputation for trades.
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Feb 3, 2022 02:50
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Also check out CarGurus. They were the best out of all of them for me.
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Feb 3, 2022 04:41
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In a thread of people mostly buying 50k+ cars,  at whining about paying a few hundred bucks every couple years for registration.
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Feb 3, 2022 06:56
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A tale of car taxation, case point Finland To buy a new car in Finland you have to pay CO2 based car tax. This tax goes from 3% to 49% of the cars purchase price. So for example to buy Mercedes-AMG E-63, which produces 275 CO2 g/km the price is 120k € + 50k € in car tax. More meager 300-diesel costs only 10k€ in taxes to buy. Then you have to pay yearly ownership tax again based on the CO2 emissions. The E-63 costs 480€ each year in road tax. The 300-d costs 160€ + 600€ for "diesel tax". Then when you go to fill your tank the fuel is naturally taxed. Petrol is taxed at 76c/l which is roughly 2,9€ / US gallon in tax. In total petrol costs almost 2€/litre right now which is 7,5€/US gallon. Diesel is taxed at a lower rate which makes it a little bit cheaper to buy. In addition to the taxes the car has to pass safety and emission inspections. These inspections are mandatory every other year for new cars and every year for cars older than 9 years. All in all, driving and car ownership costs quite a bit. Hybrids and PHEVs are naturally becoming quite popular because they have much lower CO2 ratings. For example, the E-300 de PHEV only costs 2k € in taxes which makes it cheaper to buy than the 300-diesel, even though the pre-tax purchase price is 7k € more. bad_fmr fucked around with this message at 11:47 on Feb 3, 2022 |
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Feb 3, 2022 08:19
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Russian Bear posted:In a thread of people mostly buying 50k+ cars, To be fair, it's more posters pointing out regressive taxation have an outside effect on the poor and lower middle class. Might not hit posters here that hard but it is a sore problem for plenty of people where car ownership is almost mandatory to make a meagre living.
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Feb 3, 2022 08:57
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Yeah, I just find it irritating that the additional electric vehicle surcharge I have to pay in my registration is equivalent to the gas tax someone pays for driving a massive F150 ford 15,000 miles. My EV is nearing 2 years old and has less than 7000 miles on it. The EV surcharge is almost half of what I paid in total fuel costs in a normal year on my previous ICE vehicle and my state has one of the smaller EV surcharges.
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Feb 3, 2022 12:58
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Russian Bear posted:In a thread of people mostly buying 50k+ cars, I found the freeloader
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bad_fmr posted:A tale of car taxation, case point Finland Have Finlanders considered getting in their semis and F-350s and driving to the capital and honking their horns all night and making GBS threads in buckets, in order to protest these injustices?
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CAT INTERCEPTOR posted:To be fair, it's more posters pointing out regressive taxation have an outside effect on the poor and lower middle class. Might not hit posters here that hard but it is a sore problem for plenty of people where car ownership is almost mandatory to make a meagre living. I agree on regressive taxation, but the current situation is that EVs are still firmly a luxury good (at least in the US). Bigger concern would be that it's usually hard to walk back these registration taxes later on when EV adoption will be widespread in the working class, assuming the housing issue somehow gets better. So I guess I convinced myself that I was wrong. Sorry yall! Potato Salad posted:I found the freeloader I'm the biggest freeloader, i try to use my bicycle as much as possible. Can't tax these legs. Russian Bear fucked around with this message at 16:09 on Feb 3, 2022 |
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Had an opportunity to test drive an Ioniq 5 RWD Long Range yesterday. Overall I was impressed with the range and features for the price. Range seemed good, we finished the test drive with 90KM left and I had been blasting the HVAC to really see how it would hold up to a Canadian winter. I like that the car gives you a cool breakdown of the energy usage allocation. It had been sitting in the lot in negative temperatures all night with no preconditioning so it seemed pretty favorable. The car is huge in person, pictures make it almost look like a little hatchback but I was kind of shocked at how big it is. Tons of legroom, it's unbelievably spacious in general. I completely forgot to do the reclining seat thing I've seen in videos, oh well. No rear seat fold down from the trunk which was weird. The cargo space is fantastic though and has all of the little touches missing from my Model 3 like a cover, hooks and etc. I like the dual displays and didn't mind the capacitive buttons for HVAC, at least they're in a dedicated location. I don't like the steering wheel, the gear shifter stalker is bizarre and it's weird having three stalks on the wheel again. The car seems so "forward" in design language and this feels sort of backwards by comparison. I haven't seen an EV6 in person yet but I understand they use a dial shifter which seems like a better solution to me. I do like having the drive mode selector on the wheel but again they implemented it in this really weird circular button that feels out of place. My partner did not like the center console being so open, she was also disappointed that we don't get the drawer glovebox in NA. She wants an area to hide her purse other than the trunk. The sliding aspect of the console is really more of a conversation piece than anything else. We did like having access to Carplay again! We really miss it in our Tesla. This is good because we hated the Hyundai GPS implementation, such a step back coming from the Tesla approach with Google Maps. Driving performance was great. In sport mode it's definitely no slouch with acceleration, cornering was fine considering it's bulk and we were surprised at how efficient it was. The drive assist features were "fine" but not up to snuff compared to Autopilot. I did note that the drive assist seems to only use wheel torque sensors, I was able to go hands off for quite awhile on the highway. Visibility in the car is fantastic with one glaring exception - the rear window gets unbelievably covered in moisture, salt, dirt, etc. The car desperately needs a rear windscreen wiper. I don't know what magic Tesla does with the Model 3 but this is never an issue for me. I had to actually turn on the rear camera because I couldn't see out of the back. Anyways we decided to pass and keep the Model 3 another year until the inventory situation improves and see if Hyundai revises it with a rear wiper. That's a safety issue and a deal breaker for me due to the weather here. I told the dealer as much and he said it's already been run up the ladder many times.
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bird with big dick posted:Have Finlanders considered getting in their semis and F-350s and driving to the capital and honking their horns all night and making GBS threads in buckets, in order to protest these injustices? Not exactly those issues, but right now they are planning Convoy Finland and it's an immense clusterfuck. Just today I read a twitter thread where someone was posting proceedings from an online meeting of the Convoy planners and I was dying of laughter.
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Feb 3, 2022 16:23
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Russian Bear posted:I'm the biggest freeloader, i try to use my bicycle as much as possible. Can't tax these legs. In full confidence that my words will spark no controversy whatsoever, what do you think private healthcare is?
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Feb 3, 2022 16:27
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Russian Bear posted:I'm the biggest freeloader, i try to use my bicycle as much as possible. If everybody rode bicycles, roads would last way longer. Did you know the reason you don't need a license is because a bicycle is deemed not able to cause enough property damage to bother? That's right folks, vehicle licensing is because they needed some way to track who was taking out brick walls and fences.
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Feb 3, 2022 16:41
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I would definitely vote against anything that looks like an increase in taxes on my driving
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Feb 3, 2022 16:48
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Saukkis posted:Not exactly those issues, but right now they are planning Convoy Finland and it's an immense clusterfuck. Just today I read a twitter thread where someone was posting proceedings from an online meeting of the Convoy planners and I was dying of laughter. We're gonna need more details on this.
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bird with big dick posted:Have Finlanders considered getting in their semis and F-350s and driving to the capital and honking their horns all night and making GBS threads in buckets, in order to protest these injustices? Yeah, but they cannot afford the fuel to drive such a convoy.
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Feb 3, 2022 16:57
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Tiny Timbs posted:I would definitely vote against anything that looks like an increase in taxes on my driving gently caress shared infrastructure amirite?
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Russian Bear posted:In a thread of people mostly buying 50k+ cars, Yeah how dare anyone point out that charging more for EV registration instead of less is a bad idea as the oceans acidify. It's not a big deal in of itself but it's highly emblematic of a system that, at best, does almost nothing to encourage the decline of ICE vehicles, a major contributor to climate change.
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Slimy Hog posted:gently caress shared infrastructure amirite? What if we build private driving tunnels that start right in your garage and only you can use.
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Wizard of the Deep posted:In full confidence that my words will spark no controversy whatsoever, what do you think private healthcare is? Plz don't remind me about "foibles" of this "first world" country I live in. FLIPADELPHIA posted:Yeah how dare anyone point out that charging more for EV registration instead of less is a bad idea as the oceans acidify. It's not a big deal in of itself but it's highly emblematic of a system that, at best, does almost nothing to encourage the decline of ICE vehicles, a major contributor to climate change. Comrade... if you think that any kind of cars are compatible with curbing climate change in a significant way, do I have bad news for you.
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FLIPADELPHIA posted:Yeah how dare anyone point out that charging more for EV registration instead of less is a bad idea as the oceans acidify. It's not a big deal in of itself but it's highly emblematic of a system that, at best, does almost nothing to encourage the decline of ICE vehicles, a major contributor to climate change. Many of those abnormally high EV registration fees are the product of Republican legislatures pointing to the (self inflicted) hole in their state transportation budgets and using it as a fig leaf to pass legislation that benefits their donors instead of their constituents.
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Feb 3, 2022 18:23
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Potato Salad posted:it doesn't matter though, try telling some American with a 6,000 lb truck that he's actually a massive socialist freeloader and he'll never allow himself to believe you Holy gently caress I am going to use this. The first part, with the understanding that the second part will happen. MrYenko posted:Many of those abnormally high EV registration fees are the product of Republican legislatures pointing to the (self inflicted) hole in their state transportation budgets and using it as a fig leaf to pass legislation that benefits their donors instead of their constituents. So much this.
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MrYenko posted:Many of those abnormally high EV registration fees are the product of Republican legislatures pointing to the (self inflicted) hole in their state transportation budgets and using it as a fig leaf to pass legislation that benefits their donors instead of their constituents. Most of them are actually of the "whoops, I hadn't thought of that" type. States for the last 100 years have used fuel taxes to pay for road maintenance. Cars that don't burn fuel don't pay it, so they create an unexpected revenue shortfall. Rather than redo the tax structure to pay for roads some other way, the easiest bandaid approach is to just charge EVs registration fees equivalent to what an IC car would be paying in fuel taxes. It's a bad look but generally not deliberately punitive - just the path of least resistance.
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Slimy Hog posted:gently caress shared infrastructure amirite? *shrug* There's other sources of revenue for infrastructure than taxing working-class commutes. I'm not interested in having to work in-person during a plague and paying more for the privilege. Tiny Timbs fucked around with this message at 21:00 on Feb 3, 2022 |
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Russian Bear posted:
Something can be both good and insufficient. EVs won't even come close to solving the problem, but "eh this alone won't fix it so we might as well do nothing" is pretty much exactly why we're in this situation.
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Every F-150 Lightning order wave comes and goes, and I get sadder. My boss got his invite order today because the dealer prioritized him.
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Nfcknblvbl posted:Every F-150 Lightning order wave comes and goes, and I get sadder. My boss got his invite order today because the dealer prioritized him. that’s why you poo poo on company time, amirite?
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Feb 3, 2022 21:22
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Russian Bear posted:I'm the biggest freeloader, i try to use my bicycle as much as possible. Can't tax these legs. Gentlemen, we cannot allow a bike tax gap  (My sincerest apologies.)
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Feb 3, 2022 21:41
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Nfcknblvbl posted:Every F-150 Lightning order wave comes and goes, and I get sadder. My boss got his invite order today because the dealer prioritized him. I feel like the F-35 has ruined the Lightning name Maybe the OG Lightning was stellar enough that the two multiplied simply bring the name back to a neutral place.
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Happy Noodle Boy posted:Anything that puts the tax on use ultimately ends up impacting poor commuters more than any other group. If you don’t have a daily commute, you’re not getting screwed. Like, do you not see how loving GOOD a starting point “oh man i dont have to even drive every day for a living” is? Climate change is going to end up impacting poor people the most, too. It'd still be better for them if we changed the incentive structure to get more people into EVs and out of ICE vehicles And yes, EVs do make a positive impact. Public transportation makes an even greater impact. We need both
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QuarkJets posted:Climate change is going to end up impacting poor people the most, too. It'd still be better for them if we changed the incentive structure to get more people into EVs and out of ICE vehicles You can’t “incentivize” your way out of climate change by changing the relative tax burden of EV vs ICE ownership. If you want to both combat climate change (as much as EVs alone can do that) and help poor people you need to fund road construction and maintenance via income tax so it’s actually progressive and you also need to subsidize the e development and purchase of low cost EVs, massively invest in cheap public charging infrastructure and set aggressive phase out dates for coal power generation and ICE vehicles sales.
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YOLOsubmarine posted:You can’t “incentivize” your way out of climate change by changing the relative tax burden of EV vs ICE ownership. No one said this. Try listening instead of just waiting for your chance to talk.
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It's hard to talk about the climate disaster because there really aren't any viable solutions anymore--not until the "Oh Deah Lawd" moment that stirs domestic conservatives out of hallucination--but it also feels wrong to walk that kind of street corner doom propheteering into a discussion where not everybody has arrived at that point yet. Edit - I guess if you want to talk about climate systems problems and how getting climate mourning out of the way sooner than later might be the answer for you, there are a couple of threads on something awful for you! Potato Salad fucked around with this message at 22:19 on Feb 3, 2022 |
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