TheGreyGhost posted:

Pro comps aren’t really the best for this—so keep in mind I would call these comparisons to that NFL player solely as a prospect;

Wilson — Amari Cooper/Rashod Bateman. 6’1 4.4 guy. Dude just produces against everyone and plays everywhere on the field and runs extensively clean results. Nothing about him is ideal. His speed is good but probably 4.4. His agility is good enough to be a one cut screen guy but not enough to break 7 defenders ahead of him. His hands are solid but have occasional drops near the sticks. His feet are great but prone to slipping and being behind the rest of his gate in short field situations. Like, he’s the perfect B+/A- at everything but doesn’t definitely do anything wel enough to be a specialist.

Williams — Desean Jackson/Stefon Diggs. 6’ 4.2 guy. Purest burner we’ve seen in a while that doesn’t have obvious size concerns or lack route tree experience. Bigger than a John Ross, more legit than a Curtis Samuel or Paris Campbell. I would absolutely love to see him channel that size into a more consistent release, but there are like 5 CBs in college he isn’t immediately faster than and he didn’t have to play them this year. Put him on Go/Post/Cross duty, and he will separate. That said, he doesn’t always focus through catches and is extremely lazy with shorter routes/cut and stop movements where he gets told to stop. Dude loves to run. Two options for success—either learn to keep routes looking similar until the break or learn to feign a route when running another. Most successful NFL receivers lean on the first, but guys who are fast enough can do the second which is more effective, if you have the raw speed to pull it off.

London — Keenan Allen/Healthy Brandon Marshall. 6’5 4.5 guy if I’m guessing, enough of a long strider to not be a genius. Dude who gets a million targets on a flailing team who is a massive target with good hands and plus size. Harrell’s offense runs a near full route tree and seems to build some monstously precise route runners which he is the next of. He’s also a basketball guy who can seriously leap and fight for moss balls that make him an ideal jump ball/back shoulder target which is getting more and more important in the downfield game beyond the stereotypical burner. If I’m critiquing, I do question his long speed at times and his ability to push guys off at the line for a guy his size, since he seems to use his blocking technique at times and drive guys in press rather than shedding.

Burks — Davante Adams/Demaryius Thomas. Weird offense. It’s not quite the vertical Briles offense of yore. But it’s really really similar in the ability to stick really tall fast guys on vertical routes from out wide that don’t always translate super well.6’3 4.4 guy I bet. He blocks like a monster but doesn’t always cleanly release which means he frequently gives back a step he would get. I think it’s because he tries to go over blocks to release every timerather than releasing under, which big guys do because fades and other jump ball routes essentially necessitate that you always stay above the defender. Essentially. It’s like when a pass rusher only has one move. He makes up for it by doing some of the most impressive pushing off I’ve ever seen that’s almost never flagged. He’s a freaky enough athlete that some minor technique tweaks with his release and just building his route tree could make him monstrous, but he just wasn’t asked to do finesse things like jerk/double routes that are more technical than athletic feats which could inherently limit him from being a true WR1 without being able to counter his own moves.

Olave — Devin Smith/Nelson Agholor The B student to Wilson’s A- 6’ 4.4-4.5 guy with elite body control that enables him to use his decent hands downfield to catch bombs that look impressive. I don’t think he’s fast enough to be a true deep threat, so he’s inherently a guy who needs to separate via routes and timing, which he does decently at times. He drops balls he shouldn’t, and he absolutely takes plays off when the ball isn’t coming his way or he knows he’s doubled and just distracting, which is a problem when margins drop in the nfl. He could be good, but I don’t see a guy who is better than a high end WR2

Pickens — AJ Brown/Allen Robinson. We’ll see how fast he actually is at the combine because Georgia refused to use him properly all year, and he’s going to be coming off of an injury. If he’s as fast as hyped, he’s a dark horse candidate for best pro, since he’s 6’3 or so and blocks like a fullback. They run him on a bunch of curl/vert/out/double routes that make him an overqualified perimeter guy but not what I want in a short range guy with weird concentration issues on slants and short game things and the occasional dropsy. If he cleans those up and doesn’t do the dumb poo poo with opponents that gets 15 yarders, his upside is huge.

Ross — Mike Williams/Courtland Sutton. Vertical/circus catch receiver who murders dudes over the middle vertically but looks like he’s got serious issues on a slant/curl/in/out type pattern with failing to plant himself or move economically. When you factor in his injury time, his first NFL season will be huge from a consistent rep standpoint. I love his hands and competitiveness, but his injury history is scary, as is the fact that I just don’t believe he can run away from guys over the top.

Metchie — Robert Woods/Deebo Samuel. Clean, 6’ 4.4 guy with insane crossing agility that pops him open on in/out and wheel routes on top of the usual deep routes. What I want to see happen with him is for someone to buy him a Randy Moss highlight tape and some stickum. He drops balls at the sideline when it’s over a defender and will get boxed out by a defender on underthrows from lack of competition. What I hate to see is that he’s not big enough to push guys around off the line or on those comebacks consistently, meaning he really needs to catch the balls that get over a defender. If I were giving him priorities, hands drills then really working on getting under a defenders arms to drive through space before he can be pushed off. Put him in a system that keeps press off him, and he can be great.


Dotson — Calvin Ridley/Tyler a Lockett 5’11 burner who is monstrously competitive on jumps and vertical balls. Doesn’t always explode through DBs but beats man coverage enough that he can get bracketed and still produce. When he’s covered in zone, he looks for opening and waits instead of attacking the ball. His hands on contested catches are amazing, but he’s shown some ability to lose focus waiting to make a play within 10 yards.



Deep class this year, bunch of guys who are 1 thing away from a legit WR1 prospect but there’s no one this year that looks like a Julio/Green caliber prospect.

Ches Neckbeard posted:

BlindSite posted:

Malik Willis seems like this year's trey lance in terms of fast rising status. There's been a number of fluff pieces from a lot of mouth piece writers for teams, including the Panthers and Lions today. I'm thinking while he's less pro ready than Pickett teams are falling in love with his feet and his upside. I'm starting to think he won't get out of the top 10.

kiimo posted:

I have realized the last five drafts or so that I am widely obsessed with wide receivers.

In every mock draft it is all I care about, and far and away the most I read about. I'm not sure why, maybe it's the obsession of missing out on guys like DK Metcalf or Tee Higgins that drives me crazy.

kiimo posted:

Yeah but it's not as fun because you can find effective RBs as low as UDFA. The days of them being highly valued commodities are over I think.


I curse the day the Chiefs drafted CEH over Tee Higgins.

kiimo posted:

I have realized the last five drafts or so that I am widely obsessed with wide receivers.

Play posted:

For the record I was never in on CEH very much. Just a little slow and unmaneuverable for his size in the NFL

That draft I was very very high on Dobbins. Which I guess is an open question but only due to injury, I still think he's gonna be awesome

kiimo posted:

What happened to Jonathan Taylor's terrible hands? He had two stumps when it came to catching passes or fumbling. Instead he's like the best player in that entire class.

sickening. for me, I mean

Play posted:

Honestly scary to think what he could've accomplish playing for the Chiefs though, lol

SilvergunSuperman posted:

Holy poo poo I didn't realize he was putting up numbers like that

Play posted:

For the record I was never in on CEH very much. Just a little slow and unmaneuverable for his size in the NFL

That draft I was very very high on Dobbins. Which I guess is an open question but only due to injury, I still think he's gonna be awesome

kiimo posted:

What happened to Jonathan Taylor's terrible hands? He had two stumps when it came to catching passes or fumbling. Instead he's like the best player in that entire class.

sickening. for me, I mean

Play posted:

He's been looking real good at the senior bowl while a lot of the other guys have been struggling, which I think is part of it. He should further separate himself at the combine as well.

Pretty hilarious if a Liberty QB goes first out of all QBs. It speaks to the lack of options this year, but also he is legitimately intriguing.

Ornery and Hornery posted:

Instead of drafting rbs before round 5, teams should instead draft more OL

Nissin Cup Nudist posted:

People ding Matt Corral for a simple offense and Willis played in an even simpler offense. Dude is going to have to sit or survive one hell of a trial by fire

Omnikin posted:

If you don't have the best OL in the league, scrap the season & try again next year tbh

Diva Cupcake posted:

McShay thinking Thibodeaux could drop out of the top 5.

https://twitter.com/A_G_Haubner/status/1490099730872881154

kiimo posted:

I curse the day the Chiefs drafted CEH over Tee Higgins.

Eifert Posting posted:

Everybody ITT talking about Tee Higgins and I am here for it.

I hope my Bengos get linemen in free agency because I'm not feeling any of the fat men likely to fall to the end of the first round this year.

Amy Pole Her posted:

As I see Tyler going top ten in projections, I am so angry Miami skipped out on Humphrey last year in favor of Eich

Penisaurus Sex posted:

A center going top 10 would be something else to see.