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interwhat posted:For instance, when they added Saturdays to the 5 day work week, as a 6th day, they recently made them mandatory. So this means they're paying overtime out the rear end for a six-day week right? What does your contract say?
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tater_salad posted:dude this 100% has to be fake there's no fuckin way this guy isn't a caricature of what fox thinks is a union worker. https://joeligotti.com/
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tater_salad posted:dude this 100% has to be fake there's no fuckin way this guy isn't a caricature of what fox thinks is a union worker. iirc, he had been retired from his union gig (probably with a decent retirement fund) for a while before he went on Fox. he went into sports radio, I think.
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interwhat posted:I wonder, could it ever be possible to create a social media group for non-management people to voice their concerns and come together as a group to push back against the corp, without them actually finding out? My suspicion is that a mole would get in immediately, or some boot licking loud mouth will just screenshot everything to management. I've been enjoying watching people from my old company gossip on Blind, and when the discussion starts to get too frank, someone reminds the thread that management is definitely reading it and can probably track people based on writing style, and then the thread goes into this weird stilted mode where everyone tries to say the bad thing without actually saying the bad thing. I'm sure I remember stories about the early union strikes being betrayed by one guy that the management bribed, and I think the only real solution was solidarity. It's easy to get some cops to break up a strike at a factory, but when another 5,000 people show up to join the strike, it doesn't matter how much warning the management gets, the strike will be successful. Or a massive riot, which I guess is still kind of successful.
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i got in trouble at school for having a hand grenade and my dad had to pick me up. he then took the grenade to his dockworker's union meeting in time to hear the head of the union scream "if i had a hand grenade i'd blow up all those motherfuckers" and he slapped that thing down on the desk and everyone jumped 5 feet. also he said there was a boss who was busting my dad's chops over being "late" just so he could write him up. my dad had his union rep hide around the corner from the time clock one day just to pop out and point at the clock when he started shouting. he says the boss went white and never bothered him again anyway: go unions.
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Feb 3, 2022 23:09
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Chekov's grenade.
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Outrail posted:So this means they're paying overtime out the rear end for a six-day week right? What does your contract say? Don't know the exact details, but yes precisely. I'm not a contractor, but there's an employee handbook to read through, I just haven't spent any time looking at it. I'll save that for when I'm on the clock. There's a few guys that wait half hour into the "defintely need you guys to clock out for your full lunch hour" and then wait a half hour after shift is over to clock out, essentially just adding an hour of pto per day, which is significant. No one ever bats an eye. When they started the Saturday conversation, everyone was like wtf, cant we just add time to the days we are already here? I don't think anyone got the message up the chain. To me it seems to be just conditioning the massed to get used to Saturdays being part of your work week. I'm totally opposite, if you work M-F the weekends should be yours to spend with family, do home stuff, have a fuckin life??? I don't know why I feel so alone in that thought process though. This next paragraph isn't really for this thread, but maybe you can relate, tia for reading. One of the dudes is an avid non-worker, something I literally told him he's well known for. I have a feeling he's being documented, but no one calls him out. He misses every single morning meeting, and was actually mad a lead marks him absent each day(we have electronic time cards, but they take paper roll for attending the meeting I assume). I had this conversation because he asked me to look at an Audi S6 brake caliper, it was leaking from the hard transfer line from the inside pistons to the outside. I pointed out that fluid flows down (thanks to gravity) from the brake hose, and runs down the hardline, and it's likely just leaking from the connection from hose to caliper, and to make sure it's fixed, I would replace the hose and the caliper and be done with it. Then he asked like 4 other people, and the vehicle has been sitting on his hoist with the wheel and the caliper off, and he's now installing a temporary line so the car can be road tested? So when he asked me to look at this Jetta headlight, I said "I don't mind sharing my knowledge with you, but I feel like you're gonna ask someone else until you get an answer you like. Kind of like how yesterday you tried to trick me into doing the writeup on the Audi..." Before he could get all flustered and loving weird like he always does, I sort of just let him have it. I walked with him over to the jetta, pulled the little LED adapter out of it preventing him from putting in a new bulb(seriously, this guy claims 6 years with Audi, but not seeing that isn't even a 6 month hiccup, so hiring also is a problem at this place), and I said you know, people walk away when you come around, because all you do is start drama and interrupt their conversations, or senselessly try to include yourself. It's rude. And on top of that, I get it buddy you're a social butterfly and want to make friends at work, but you're not fooling anyone by moving around the shop bouncing from conversation and making up BS stock numbers and jobs on the production board. The only thing you have going for you is you're a warm body to road test cars. You now have a reputation for that, that isn't even limited to our department. Sorry, no one but me is taking the time to spell it out for you, so here it is. Try something different. Grab the cars that need brake inspections, or have TPMS lights or check vibration, grab the easy poo poo. Try to have a productive day, put your nose down and be different! He appreciated the hard words, and said "I love you for this man" which, I gestured(two hands up, palms out) and said no please, it's not like that, I'm just doing you a solid. I regret putting the effort put into someone I seriously don't like, but the way I see it, I won't have to be so diplomatic in the future with him, because I've now set the precedent that I can be nice, but I won't have to be so in the future, and I'm sure he will change absolutely nothing.
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InsertPotPun posted:anyway: go unions. I have nothing to add but this is great.
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interwhat posted:I'm sure he will change absolutely nothing. It's this
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I know I know, but my only other option was to tell him to go gently caress himself, I really have no middle ground.
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I'd open with that next time
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The last time he walked up to my coworker and I studying wiring diagrams, as I went back to the car, and other guy went elsewhere, shitforbrains was standing behind me, and assuming we knew he was there was like "why does everyone LEAVE when I walk up?!" I said, "cause you're fuckin weird and exhausting!" He left me alone for a solid week it was wonderful. Think I'll get a few more weeks out of go gently caress yourself? Thanks thread!
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The place I contract for had a guy like that - believed every single conspiracy theory that existed even 10 years ago and would not stop harassing you with them at the slightest provocation (down to seeing "NWO" in some specification document and going off about Israel). Obviously he also believed Covid wasn't real. Then, when the country decided to pass a law that allows to force people to get vaccinated or pay a recurring fine, he abruptly left the company, sending an e-mail that he was leaving the country. I assume he's here now. loving hated that idiot. Absolutely no social anything, would poo poo on others in public meetings, everyone would flee the communal kitchen when he arrived, etc.
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gschmidl posted:The place I contract for had a guy like that - believed every single conspiracy theory that existed even 10 years ago and would not stop harassing you with them at the slightest provocation (down to seeing "NWO" in some specification document and going off about Israel). lol what is it about dumb white people starting stupid communes in Paraguay? There's a town there called New Australia formed by white racist socialist leftist scumbags back in the late 1800's. It shismed really hard when half the population of Australians figured out the founders were serious about the whole teetotalism thing and wanted to brew some beer. I paid a guy on a motorbike to drive me around for an hour. It was a sad entirely forgettable place and I expect nothing more from the new colony of racist white eurotrash.
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Outrail posted:lol what is it about dumb white people starting stupid communes in Paraguay? There's a town there called New Australia formed by white racist socialist leftist scumbags back in the late 1800's. It shismed really hard when half the population of Australians figured out the founders were serious about the whole teetotalism thing and wanted to brew some beer. Sounds like it's because of the lax immigration laws, and they think they can throw rich white dipshit money around to do whatever the gently caress they want in a poorer nation. I'd vote calling this settlement "The Control Group", because that's what it's going to turn into. "What happens if we actually do shun all the mandates and masks? Well, if you look at The Control Group....  "
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Neddy Seagoon posted:"What happens if we actually do shun all the mandates and masks? Well, if you look at The Control Group.... He better not come back.
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I just set up a brand new laptop and it installed the Nexthink extension into my browser(s) which can't be disabled. Never heard of it.quote:Nexthink gives IT unprecedented insight into employees’ daily experience with technology – freeing them to progress from reactive problem solving to continuous, proactive optimization. Nexthink provides a central experience hub that delivers real-time, actionable insights into every employee and activity, at every moment – across devices, operating systems, and any flexible workplace location. WTF us this poo poo. I'm honestly surprised that this got approval to be pushed out to everyone. I don't use this PC for anything that could get me in trouble, but still. Does anyone know what it really does? Are there any browsers it doesn't work with? Edge, Chrome and Firefox all got bugged.
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Just use pihole and prevent that loving thing from calling home.
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mobby_6kl posted:I just set up a brand new laptop and it installed the Nexthink extension into my browser(s) which can't be disabled. Never heard of it. How did the bug installation process go? When you installed the browser? When you opened the browser? When you visited your employer website? Before trying anything complex, you could uninstall/reinstall a browser, then rename the executable. Probably won't work, but if it does you've saved time.
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mobby_6kl posted:I just set up a brand new laptop and it installed the Nexthink extension into my browser(s) which can't be disabled. Never heard of it. Good news, if you have trouble with that laptop then the helpdesk will have extremely detailed historical information on everything that's happened and everything that has changed. As a troubleshooting aid, it puts the tech in the loving Matrix. Bad news, if Legal didn't quash that poo poo then it's everything but a keylogger for monitoring activity on the laptop. As a monitoring tool it, uh... puts the end user in the loving Matrix. Our Legal group threw ten colors of poo poo when they heard about it and the rollout at our subsidiary was delayed about six months. Ultimately, not a lot changed in what data was gathered and retained, but that was mostly thanks to the Worker's Councils in Germany - they had already forced a requirement that it can't be used to "automatically gather data that can be used in a disciplinary action". I was pretty impressed by the WC's ability to deliver a hard NO to a megacorp our size over a privacy issue. Score one for the socialist hellscape that is Germany. For example, I can tell a manager how many of her group's machines have Acrobat installed. I cannot tell her which copies get used how often, and I have an escalation path going back to the home office in Switzerland if she wants to hear "No" in increasingly charming accents.
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Also, blocking it so it produces no data when they are expecting data will look hella sus to them if they're already being computer fash.
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Atopian posted:How did the bug installation process go? I actually installed Firefox from scratch after I noticed this extension, and it had it as well. Just like in Edge/Chrome, it wasn't possible to disable the extension through the UI, but I actually managed to just delete the corresponding file from the extension folder. So it's gone from Firefox for now, but we'll see how long that lasts. mllaneza posted:Good news, if you have trouble with that laptop then the helpdesk will have extremely detailed historical information on everything that's happened and everything that has changed. As a troubleshooting aid, it puts the tech in the loving Matrix. goatface posted:Also, blocking it so it produces no data when they are expecting data will look hella sus to them if they're already being computer fash. Anyway I'm not even looking to disable it completley, I don't care if they see how many hours Excel is open (it's all the hours) but sending all browser requests is a bit much for my taste. Hell I could even keep it enabled in the "work" browser. Azuth0667 posted:Just use pihole and prevent that loving thing from calling home.
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mobby_6kl posted:It got installed automatically through the usual process that various updates gets pushed out. I saw a notification and then it showed up in the browser. Not sure if it's part of the new Company Portal or whatever. If you’re on a VPN (which I really hope you are for your company's sake) then blackholing stuff on your private network won't do anything.
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Americans don't have rights but thanx for the missile shield
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Desk/inflammation guy resigned, and submitted a doctor's certificate stating that he's unfit for work for the entirety of his notice period. It's not like he's been doing any work anyway! No word yet on whether the desk and other equipment will be getting collected from his house. Apparently he also had a bariatric ergo chair on order as well, but that's been cancelled.
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The no-work stories always remind me of the dude that worked for Verizon and got caught outsourcing his work to China.
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bee posted:Desk/inflammation guy *was constructively terminated due to the companies discrimination and deliberate unwillingness to make reasonable accommodations afforded to employees under the ADA.
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mobby_6kl posted:but sending all browser requests is a bit much for my taste. Hell I could even keep it enabled in the "work" browser. They can get that anyway, Nexthink or no. Do check in with your WC, if they weren't already aware and putting their foot down, then they will be very grateful for the information. And so people can see why companies are adopting Nexthink, it's not for the monitoring. There are cheaper, better tools to spy on employees. Nexthink shows you things that need to be fixed, and helps you fix them. Check this video out, https://www.nexthink.com/resource/optimization-video-value-case/ How many times has IT reached out to you to say "We noticed your poo poo was broken, when should we apply a fix ?" Probably never. We've used Nexthink to justify memory upgrades for laptops, changes in GPOs, adding a dashboard to Service Now to flag common issues, and other proactive projects to make using our computers better. mllaneza fucked around with this message at 08:42 on Feb 5, 2022 |
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Strategic Tea posted:Americans don't have rights but thanx for the missile shield * Missile Shield not guaranteed to protect you from a missile attack. Thank you for subscribing to Missile Shield, a Military Industrial Complex service!
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So, can I have that guy's desk?
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bee posted:Desk/inflammation guy resigned, and submitted a doctor's certificate stating that he's unfit for work for the entirety of his notice period. It's not like he's been doing any work anyway! I really wish I understood what this man's whole gameplan was.
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He got paid for a few months, got a doctors note showing how difficult it is for him to hold down a job. His welfare claims for the near future are well set.
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Indeed and even if it was all his way of not working, by buying him the equipment he said he needed at least there's a trail so that if he tries to get a discrimination settlement, you should be protected from that. And if he's a goon, well, delete the posts where you'd decided he was like that before you'd even tried meeting his needs, or be prepared to give him a massive payout lol
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Last Wednesday there was a pretty vicious snowstorm in Albuquerque. It started around the time I got off work at 6AM, by 1PM it was obvious it was going to snow hard, and at 5:45PM my supervisor called me and told me to stay home. What I found out last night was that my boss was on the phone with our HR manager at 5PM - our HR manager who works from home - when it was really dumping hard and starting to ice. She told him to send out a txt to everyone to let them know to buckle down and come in because the roads weren't bad. Within a half hour they sent 2nd shift home and called us off, and it took the 4 people who were there and didn't have COVID on 2nd that day between 4-6 hours to get home. I went driving at 8:30 to see what trouble I would have been in and my RWD Ranger made it about 50 feet down the street before I just called it as entirely too dangerous to even gently caress around with a 100 foot drive. She was sitting at her house in Rio Rancho, which was at that point getting hit way harder than work, when she told my boss to tell everyone to get their loving asses to work. Then after he tells me that, my supe tells me they changed the handbook policy so they can update it whenever they want when we signed paperwork to get raises without reviews this year (we're getting laid off in like oct-nov), so now the policy is you can't take no pay and they automatically steal 8 hours of PTO from you if they call you off. I'm almost 100% sure this is because my HR manager was annoyed and still thinks we all should have stopped bitching and driven across town on solid ice to come to work, where we then all would have been stranded at 6AM if we'd made it in. MrQwerty fucked around with this message at 16:19 on Feb 8, 2022 |
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Lazyfire posted:The downside for an office union is that someone who goes above and beyond often gets absolutely nothing for the extra effort. Just don't do that Non-union jobs get even less out of going above and beyond 99 times put of 100. Your boss isn't going to pay you above and beyond.
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MrQwerty posted:Last Wednesday there was a pretty vicious snowstorm in Albuquerque. It started around the time I got off work at 6AM, by 1PM it was obvious it was going to snow hard, and at 5:45PM my supervisor called me and told me to stay home. This reminds me of a time in high school where there was a bad snow storm and the district said there was just going to be a 1-hour delay. Then suddenly school was cancelled. MY mom worked for the district and found out about 10 minutes before the decision to close the superintendent got into an accident while driving in. Basically, anyone who is in charge of deciding is a facility remains open during inclement weather should be forced to drive there. Preferably in a car not optimized for the conditions.
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Cthulu Carl posted:This reminds me of a time in high school where there was a bad snow storm and the district said there was just going to be a 1-hour delay. Then suddenly school was cancelled. MY mom worked for the district and found out about 10 minutes before the decision to close the superintendent got into an accident while driving in. There was a 2 day advance warning that a bomb cyclone was dropping and Wednesday night 3rd shift was going to be hosed no matter what, and she still pulled that poo poo lmao
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