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Pornographic Memory
Dec 17, 2008

fits my needs posted:

they just need to train a cadre of chenweinhuas or whatever to engage in posting warfare across western platforms

Can't wait for the epic girl boss influencers waging the new posting cold war with their new COMPETES bucks

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Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

this just in breaking news of muslim genocide in central asia

https://mobile.twitter.com/redfishstream/status/1489630448225427461

oh just them? ahhh never mind

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

https://mobile.twitter.com/DerekJGrossman/status/1489977025670512644

DiscountDildos
Nov 8, 2017

https://twitter.com/JChengWSJ/status/1489856566408843264?s=20&t=7mJ-wzFiKEakDiFf49XSog

Hell yeah

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

https://mobile.twitter.com/badiucao/status/1489808594958979072
https://mobile.twitter.com/badiucao/status/1489813903416893444
https://mobile.twitter.com/badiucao/status/1489834351173185545

uno.mannschaft
Dec 23, 2006

QUEEN

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

https://mobile.twitter.com/isaacstonefish/status/1489666440735059971

someone actually said it lol

Centrist Committee
Aug 6, 2019
I mean hitler and xi both contain the letter I, so…

Tankbuster
Oct 1, 2021

Some Guy TT posted:

this just in breaking news of muslim genocide in central asia

https://mobile.twitter.com/redfishstream/status/1489630448225427461

oh just them? ahhh never mind

The settlers are poor biharis and bengalis that work on farms/orchards get killed by crank mujahids and don't have the right of settling there. The real thing that is happening in Kashmir is systematic selling of resources to corporate backers like Adani.


What great power? The biggest thing to come out of india with modi was Poo in Loo posting and superpower 2020. Meanwhile he has basically completely surrendered to the chinese - to the extent of driving nepal into the PRC's hands after the PRC directly helped the king of nepal. This article is just going to be huffing cope for a particularly retarded subsection of the indian middle class who would be infinitely better off playing Paradox map painting games.

(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

Tankbuster has issued a correction as of 18:51 on Feb 5, 2022

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

"I can't be racist, I'm black!"

Mister Bates
Aug 4, 2010

the United States will defend its honor to the last drop of German blood!

XMNN
Apr 26, 2008
I am incredibly stupid

https://twitter.com/badiucao/status/1475229218250231811?t=LaFJPGnSxrVeANflOTHjSw&s=19
https://twitter.com/badiucao/status/1475234399029366786?t=l17yyY3IEIQwRKKvzv78Zw&s=19

lol

30.5 Days
Nov 19, 2006

I'm escaping to the one place that hasn't been corrupted by capitalism!

Wraith of J.O.I.
Jan 25, 2012



you're likely free to do the same jonathan

Frosted Flake
Sep 13, 2011

Semper Shitpost Ubique

x-posting from CANPOL

BattleMaster posted:

japan fought germany in world war I, attacking their colonies in the pacific, and had good relations with britain in the first bit of the 20th century. For instance, they had a technology exchange program where the british built them a battleship while their engineers watched, in order to learn how to make good battleships themselves. they also sent a heavy cruiser to king george's coronation in 1937. and unlike germany, they didn't completely ignore the various naval treaties of the 20s and 30s.

their entry into the axis and war didn't really have anything to do with pre-existing relationships and had essentially everything to do with them becoming a pariah state over their war in china and they said gently caress it, let's join with the other pariah state who is at war with people who are holding back our colonial ambitions and just do what we want in the pacific.

edit: the western allies having holdings in the pacific that had resources, especially oil, that they needed and could seize also sweetened the deal. for instance, the 1944 battle of leyte gulf was one of the biggest naval battles in history because the japanese threw everything they left into trying to hold onto the philippines, because without the oil production they had seized there they couldn't run their navy. when the battle was lost, any ships that could retreat back to japan did so loaded with as much loot as they could carry and once they made it to port sat there for the rest of the war because they had no fuel

I just started reading a great book about it that also challenges everything we learned about the Canadian contingent to Hong Kong in School:

Clash of Empires in South China
The Allied Nations' Proxy War with Japan, 1935-1941


Japan's invasion of China in 1937 saw most major campaigns north of the Yangtze River, where Chinese industry was concentrated. The southern theater proved a more difficult challenge for Japan because of its enormous size, diverse terrain, and poor infrastructure, but Generalissimo Chiang Kai-shek made a formidable stand that produced a veritable quagmire for a superior opponent-a stalemate much desired by the Allied nations.

In the first book to cover this southern theater in detail, David Macri closely examines strategic decisions, campaigns, and operations and shows how they affected Allied grand strategy. Drawing on documents of U.S. and British officials, he reveals for the first time how the Sino-Japanese War served as a "proxy war" for the Allies: by keeping Japan's military resources focused on southern China, they hoped to keep the enemy bogged down in a war of attrition that would prevent them from breaching British and Soviet territory.

While the most immediate concern was preserving Siberia and its vast resources from invasion, Macri identifies Hong Kong as the keystone in that proxy war—vital in sustaining Chinese resistance against Japan as it provided the logistical interface between the outside world and battles in Hunan and Kwangtung provinces; a situation that emerged because of its vital rail connection to the city of Changsha. He describes the development of Anglo-Japanese low-intensity conflict at Hong Kong; he then explains the geopolitical significance of Hong Kong and southern China for the period following the German invasion of the Soviet Union.

Opening a new window on this rarely studied theater, Macri underscores China's symbolic importance for the Allies, depicting them as unequal partners who fought the Japanese for entirely different reasons—China for restoration of its national sovereignty, the Allies to keep the Japanese preoccupied. And by aiding China's wartime efforts, the Allies further hoped to undermine Japanese propaganda designed to expel Western powers from its Greater East Asia Co-Prosperity Sphere.

As Macri shows, Hong Kong was not just a sleepy British Colonial outpost on the fringes of the empire but an essential logistical component of the war, and to fully understand broader events Hong Kong must be viewed together with southern China as a single military zone. His account of that forgotten fight is a pioneering work that provides new insight into the origins of the Pacific War.

On Canadian Involvement (There are whole chapters, this is just from the intro) posted:

“One problem with this traditional view was that the potential destabilizing impact of intervention in regional crises was frequently underestimated, and the possibility that intervention itself could be construed as an act of aggression was often overlooked. That was how the Japanese viewed the reinforcement of Hong Kong’s garrison with Canadian infantry in the fall of 1941. Moreover, the potential for great powers to be drawn into conflict over relatively minor issues that they otherwise would have avoided or minimized was increased substantially; conversely, weaker states such as Canada were emboldened to take dangerous action.”

“Aside from Britain, smaller Western powers with forces in the Far East served as U.S. clients, albeit under the illusion of maintaining sovereignty. With respect to the reinforcement of Hong Kong in the fall of 1941, it has been widely assumed that Canada was simply a loyal British Dominion following instructions from London, but this is far from accurate. Although Canadian military policy remained wedded to that of Great Britain due to organizational and logistical considerations, after the fall of France, Canada’s foreign policy shifted, aligning with that of America. This has been demonstrated by several Canadian historians, but the larger ramifications of such a transformation on Allied Far Eastern strategy remain unexplained. As American involvement in China’s affairs increased steadily following Roosevelt’s reelection in 1940, Canadian involvement in China began. Hong Kong was reinforced with Canadian infantry instead of British troops because Canada’s policy of military intervention in China originated from inside the White House. Thus, in addition to the AVG and Lend-Lease aid, the other important but underrecognized example of Western support to China was Hong Kong’s reinforcement with Canadian troops. This topic is covered in detail in subsequent chapters.

Providing greater urgency to Anglo-American efforts was the near destruction of the Soviet Red Army and the potential for a Soviet defeat. Because of the problems with Chinese morale and the persistent possibility of peace, the decision to reinforce Hong Kong’s garrison was undertaken by the Canadian government with the goal of maintaining Chinese resistance. It was a diplomatic gesture aimed at bolstering Chinese morale, with the primary objective of providing indirect support to the Soviet Union at a time when the Red Army faced destruction. Ottawa’s decision to take such a step was made when the situation in the USSR appeared to be most critical—at the beginning of the battle for Moscow. The deployment kept Japanese attention fixed on China and southern operations, thereby enabling Stalin to transfer a sizable percentage of his Far Eastern forces westward. In this light, sending Canadian troops to Hong Kong was one of the most significant symbols of Western support to China prior to the outbreak of the Pacific war.

“The ensuing Anglo-American military disaster was partly the result of this policy, and the most damaging consequences were felt initially at Pearl Harbor and Hong Kong in December 1941. But Allied leaders saw the outcome differently. The main purposes behind strengthening the Anglo-American commitment to China in the latter half of 1941 were to provide indirect support to the Soviets’ Far Eastern flank and to solidify the alliance. Thus, officials at the highest levels in both Washington and London considered the result a success. The battle of Hong Kong should serve as a reminder, however, that the cost in lives made collective security in Asia an expensive proposition, especially for smaller powers such as Canada.”

Canada really hasn’t figured out how Great Power diplomacy works eh? Seeing as we’re always used as bait and/or a tripwire: Hong Kong, Task Force Kandahar, even in the Baltic now. :canada:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPLyGYhbedE

CaptainACAB
Sep 14, 2021

by Jeffrey of Langley
lmao the biden admin got tired of getting asked for evidence and just told the few journalists not just owned by the CIA to gently caress themselves, and the blue hogs are all fine with this, ready to start WW3 with literally no evidence whatsoever.

actually getting really worried here because the insane mass murderer Joseph Robinette Biden Jr has shown he is perfectly willing to kill millions over a lie. he was one of the primary architects of the iraq war after all.

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

(and can't post for 21 days!)


https://twitter.com/ShankHu15/status/1489921867825573889?s=20&t=90KHbkOsio65N_U4E7OQfg

Flavahbeast
Jul 21, 2001


CaptainACAB posted:

lmao the biden admin got tired of getting asked for evidence and just told the few journalists not just owned by the CIA to gently caress themselves, and the blue hogs are all fine with this, ready to start WW3 with literally no evidence whatsoever.

actually getting really worried here because the insane mass murderer Joseph Robinette Biden Jr has shown he is perfectly willing to kill millions over a lie. he was one of the primary architects of the iraq war after all.

He's gonna send the order to Putin's brain chip soon. Tens of thousands of Russians and Ukrainians will die for no good reason if Biden's puppet in Moscow is not stopped

DiscountDildos
Nov 8, 2017



My Google News feed has a whole section dedicated to the chinazi Olympics lol

Tankbuster
Oct 1, 2021
God all this poo poo for the lame olympics.

Majorian
Jul 1, 2009

Tankbuster posted:

God all this poo poo for the lame olympics.

Gotta get people to tune into it somehow.

Tankbuster
Oct 1, 2021
Like yeah, china is doing great and whatever. I am still not gonna watch the loving winter olympics.

Majorian
Jul 1, 2009
Yeah opening ceremonies are usually boring but this one was particularly boring. As are most Olympic events.

AnimeIsTrash
Jun 30, 2018
Probation
Can't post for 5 hours!
Hockey used to be the best part but thanks to the NHL and IOC it sucks rear end.

tokin opposition
Apr 8, 2021

I don't jailbreak the androids, I set them free.

WATCH MARS EXPRESS (2023)


Wow

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

Tankbuster posted:

God all this poo poo for the lame olympics.

no that’s next month


I’ll go burn in hell now

Lostconfused
Oct 1, 2008

Oh hell yes, that's the stuff.

Grapplejack
Nov 27, 2007

Palladium posted:

They will milk the 5.6 billion AND paste stickers over the Huawei logos

they are 100% not actually removing any of it

Mantis42
Jul 26, 2010

Majorian posted:

Yeah opening ceremonies are usually boring but this one was particularly boring. As are most Olympic events.

The Tokyo was pretty cool I thought. At least the part where they recreated the sports logos (if you saw it you know what I mean).

Tankbuster
Oct 1, 2021
China started culturebombing when they started hosting those giant Esports tournaments.

Benagain
Oct 10, 2007

Can you see that I am serious?
Fun Shoe
I wonder why China even bothered to keep them going instead of canceling them outright, having a bunch of infected foreigners showing up really doesn't align with keeping covid numbers low.

eSports Chaebol
Feb 22, 2005

Yeah, actually, gamers in the house forever,

lobster shirt posted:

reading a reddit post asking "what did you think of the olympics openign ceremony" and like 75% of the comments are "gently caress the genocidal warmongers of the ccp" lmao this country is so pathetic

let’s not forget that Hitler said “Jewish culture is a part of German culture” and sponsored public pro-Judaism initiatives while secretly conducting the Holocaust. if he had trotted out one of the many state-sponsored yeshiva students who openly supported the Third Reich to light the Olympic torch in 1936, would that have changed anything? I think a lot of the tankies here would have cheered it on!

Horseshoe theory
Mar 7, 2005

AnimeIsTrash posted:

Hockey used to be the best part but thanks to the NHL and IOC it sucks rear end.

Curling's the only good part of the Winter Olympics, OP.

30.5 Days
Nov 19, 2006
The chinese have an advantage through their technology. They keep the uyghurs in an extradimensional space so that's why nobody can find the concentration camps holding hundreds of thousands.

Tankbuster
Oct 1, 2021

eSports Chaebol posted:

let’s not forget that Hitler said “Jewish culture is a part of German culture” and sponsored public pro-Judaism initiatives while secretly conducting the Holocaust. if he had trotted out one of the many state-sponsored yeshiva students who openly supported the Third Reich to light the Olympic torch in 1936, would that have changed anything? I think a lot of the tankies here would have cheered it on!

What was the Tankie take on the Molotov Ribbentrop pact? I know that between poland and barbarossa the CPI supported the INC when it came to oppose the war and then after stalin told them to knock that poo poo off they started infiltrating the rapidly expanding army.

mcclay
Jul 8, 2013

Oh dear oh gosh oh darn
Soiled Meat

eSports Chaebol posted:

let’s not forget that Hitler said “Jewish culture is a part of German culture” and sponsored public pro-Judaism initiatives while secretly conducting the Holocaust. if he had trotted out one of the many state-sponsored yeshiva students who openly supported the Third Reich to light the Olympic torch in 1936, would that have changed anything? I think a lot of the tankies here would have cheered it on!

source your quotes

Isentropy
Dec 12, 2010

Not a (certified) tankie but I seem to recall it as: the USSR sought an alliance with the West against Nazism, couldn't find one, so signed the MR pact to buy time?

Tankbuster
Oct 1, 2021
Yeah thats the good and correct take in hindsight. I was more curious as to the timeframe between the invasion of Poland and barbarossa.

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

what is the non tankie explanation for how the molotov ribbentrop pact was fundamentally different from the munich agreement does it just boil down to the soviets took half of poland before the nazis could gobble the whole thing so when u think about it they were equally belligerent

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FishBulbia
Dec 22, 2021

https://twitter.com/LucasFoxNews/status/1490076153016688650

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