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IUG posted:I love that archangel’s wings aren’t even staying on properly for the photo shoot. That’s basically how I remember that toy. They were on. They were just attached to that backpack looking thing that housed the flapping mechanism. Nobody is going to mention the audacity of giving Juggernaut a battering ram accessory?
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Are we all agreeing to ignore Cyclops' gently caress machine then?
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Napoleon Nelson posted:Are we all agreeing to ignore Cyclops' gently caress machine then? We've been posting about his katana for like a page!
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Listening to the Fire& Water Superfriends podcast reminded me of an old edit that was sitting on my hard drive. Bizzare powers almost always come back, so when was the last time Fire shot flames out of her nose?
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maltesh posted:Listening to the Fire& Water Superfriends podcast reminded me of an old edit that was sitting on my hard drive. That’s the first I’ve ever seen of that. My favorite obscure/forgotten power is the golden age Wonder Woman having telepathy.
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maltesh posted:Listening to the Fire& Water Superfriends podcast reminded me of an old edit that was sitting on my hard drive. They were sitting around the watchtower, Fire was enjoying a nice cup of Sterno when Booster tripped Guy, and made his head bonk into a cabinet.
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maltesh posted:Listening to the Fire& Water Superfriends podcast reminded me of an old edit that was sitting on my hard drive. So is the original panel about Fire of all people doing like black ops stuff for Brazil or something? Which I guess is... fine, but it's an odd character to try and grim backstory up.
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Dawgstar posted:So is the original panel about Fire of all people doing like black ops stuff for Brazil or something? Which I guess is... fine, but it's an odd character to try and grim backstory up. It's been a long time since I made the original edit, but I think the outer part is from a comic about Checkmate from around 2014. I think that Amanda Waller was indeed insinuating that she was performing sanctioned assassinations. The inner part is from Fire's first appearance, in the original Super Friends comic series #25, where she's trying to stop a Mind-controlled Superman from conquering Rio. Apparently she can also breathe out an absolute-zero "cold flame" as well in that Super Friends issue? (Edited for clarification) maltesh fucked around with this message at 20:38 on Jan 30, 2022 |
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Jan 30, 2022 19:39
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maltesh posted:It's been a long time since I made the original edit, but I think the outer part is from a comic about Checkmate from around 2014. I think that Amanda Waller was indeed insinuating that she was performing sanctioned assassinations. Dare I ask why Waller is red? Also, "sanctioned assassinations" for the Brazilian government sadly means killing indigenous people, LGBTQ+, labor/human rights organizers and other marginalized people. 
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maltesh posted:It's been a long time since I made the original edit, but I think the outer part is from a comic about Checkmate from around 2014. I think that Amanda Waller was indeed insinuating that she was performing sanctioned assassinations. Yeah. From my memory of that issue (or possibly a later appearance in Super Friends), she also had a "dazzle power" that could apparently create illusions.
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MH Knights posted:Dare I ask why Waller is red? Also, "sanctioned assassinations" for the Brazilian government sadly means killing indigenous people, LGBTQ+, labor/human rights organizers and other marginalized people. It's been a while but it was around the Infinte Crisis days and was a part of Greg Rucka and Checkmate. I think the idea was that De Costa had been jn the secret service and she was a Hard Woman who could do Hard Things. (Since spy Jack Beaur was in.) And I firmly believe the intention was "she I'd someone who is willing to murder bad arms dealers for national security reasons." Only the writer (again I think this was Rucka) had no idea that in the context of Brazil her background of "with secret service" probably meant she was putting Enemies of the State in the ground.
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Yeah, apparently Beatriz had been a spy in Brazil (according to Rucka's Checkmate series) which ran counter to her bubbly bimbo-supermodel persona in JLI. In JLI she could breathe (green) fire until the metagene bomb exploded in the Invasion miniseries, making her into a green Human Torch.
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Fire was given a "secret agent" background way back in 1988, in an issue of Secret Origins that came out within a few months of her joining the Giffen/DeMatteis JLI. It was written by the Bierbaums and drawn by a young Chuck Austen in between (and in the same style as) his work doing varying levels of softcore/hardcore porn comics:  It also played up her "sneezing" power from the Super Friends comics:  This was commissioned perhaps in part to give an alternate origin for the character from the one in Bridwell's Super Friends comics, which was... something. Her father was a surveyor with a job "deep in the jungle" when her mother went into labor with her. They had to seek out "a primitive Indian village" where a "magic-man" in a literal loincloth and a bone in his nose did a ceremonial dance ("much to my parents' amusement") that saved the infant's life and gave her "magic gifts" that he taught her as a ghost to fight for Brazil. Then her mentor (who is never named, just "The Shaman/Headman/Magic-Man") telepathically contacts her to go back and stop his "grandson" (also never named) who wants to take all of the magic powers to kill "the despised whites" and take over Brazil. Fire is also a "white fiend" so he tries to kill her and the Super Friends, but a last minute "dazzle power" attack from Fire makes him realize that his grandfather doesn't want him to kill the "Accursed Whites". Everyone prays to Deus/Rao/God for the Shaman's spirit to go to a good place and vow to keep the wise words of the Magic Man in their hearts. And that was the last issue of Super Friends! As for the original panels, Amanda Waller is red because someone had a lovely scan of the book, I assume (it's from the OMAC Project Infinite Crisis Special, below is the digital version up on Comixology)  Later in Rucka's Checkmate at least he very much follows through "working for the Brazillians" means, when he reveals that her father (who trained her to be an assassin, another reveal/retcon) was a major figure in the real-life Operation Condor and Waller is using this as leverage against Fire to make her run missions for her in Checkmate.Various characters call him a "war criminal" who could go to jail for "war crimes", and in the end he does! This was definitely a darker turn than her spy background shown in the 1988 Secret Origins story (and referenced a few times in JLI I think), for sure, but she still got off easy in the Darker Backstory/Character travails of the early 2000s than many of her JLI pals. Edge & Christian fucked around with this message at 02:07 on Jan 31, 2022 |
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Open Marriage Night posted:Nobody is going to mention the audacity of giving Juggernaut a battering ram accessory? Reminds me of how in the famous X-Men arcade game, for some reason, they decided to give Juggernaut a giant fuckoff cannon. Almost as odd as when he showed up as a boss in the Captain America and the Avengers arcade game beat 'em up. Considering virtually all the other villains who showed up were either individual member of the Avengers villains (Red Skull, Crossbones, Mandarin, Living Laser) or united as a team Avengers villains (Whirlwind, Grim Reaper, Ultron), he really stuck out. But not as much as the Wizard, who also appeared in said game as a boss. Juggernaut at least has branched out a fair number of times to fight others besides the X-Men (heck, one of Spider Man's more famous mini stories featured him); I don't think the Wizard has EVER fought anyone who wasn't somehow tied to the Fantastic Four. Basically, imagine if in the X-Men game, that in the second to last level, instead of fighting four Pyro clones, you fought Master Pandemonium. Cornwind Evil fucked around with this message at 08:22 on Jan 31, 2022 |
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Cornwind Evil posted:Reminds me of how in the famous X-Men arcade game, for some reason, they decided to give Juggernaut a giant fuckoff cannon. With baby hands?
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“Ever” is a strong word when we’re talking about six decades of comics. I went looking, and apparently The Wizard fought The Avengers in issue 235, cover dated September 1983. She-Hulk was on the team, but this predated her being in the FF. There might be more, but this was the first hit I got on the GCD. https://www.comics.org/issue/37761/cover/4/ Also, isn’t Master Mold one of the bosses in that game? That really is like having Master Pandemonium show up in the X-Men game, although I suppose the odds are a lot higher that the Sentinels showed up in an issue of The Avengers too. Servoret fucked around with this message at 13:45 on Jan 31, 2022 |
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Especially because 2 core members of the X Men have been long standing members of the Avengers at different times. Not even counting the Maximoffs being mutants for most of their comics history
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Given when the game was released (1992) it's likely the developers were just looking for villains out of the 1989/1990 Acts of Vengeance crossover, which featured pretty much every enemy from the game appearing in Avengers-related comics: Wizard and Mandarin teaming up in Avengers (and being part of the core cabal alongside Red Skull), Juggernaut facing off against Thor, Klaw (and Wizard again) in Avengers Spotlight, Living Laser in Quasar, Controller in Captain America... really the only two villains from the game who don't fight the Avengers during Acts of Vengeance are Grim Reaper and Ultron, who are the most Avengers-y of everyone in the game.
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That wouldn't be that weird. Technically you can draw a straight line between Master Pandemonium and the decimation
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Servoret posted:“Ever” is a strong word when we’re talking about six decades of comics. I went looking, and apparently The Wizard fought The Avengers in issue 235, cover dated September 1983. She-Hulk was on the team, but this predated her being in the FF. There might be more, but this was the first hit I got on the GCD. Well, not surprised I am wrong there. Technically it's just a generic 'giant robot', and the gamemakers likely just took the appearance of a Sentinel for it.
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Didja know quote is not edit? Well I'll just leave it here as a second post.Edge & Christian posted:Given when the game was released (1992) it's likely the developers were just looking for villains out of the 1989/1990 Acts of Vengeance crossover, which featured pretty much every enemy from the game appearing in Avengers-related comics: Wizard and Mandarin teaming up in Avengers (and being part of the core cabal alongside Red Skull), Juggernaut facing off against Thor, Klaw (and Wizard again) in Avengers Spotlight, Living Laser in Quasar, Controller in Captain America... really the only two villains from the game who don't fight the Avengers during Acts of Vengeance are Grim Reaper and Ultron, who are the most Avengers-y of everyone in the game. That makes a lot of sense. Of course, the best boss is the giant robot octopus. The word for octopus in Japan is 'Tako', and the English translator clearly got confused, and hence we have...  Not to mention some great Engrish in general. "YOU CAN'T ESCAPE!" "YOU WILL BE THE ONE ESCAPING!" "WHERE IS THE LASER?!" "ASK THE POLICE!" (Even funnier, it's ULTRON saying this) Plus, despite the voice lines correctly saying "Avengers, Assemble", the credits text writes it as "Avengers, Unite." Cornwind Evil fucked around with this message at 22:19 on Jan 31, 2022 |
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I liked the Vision as a kid. Mostly because he had a cape. I also had no clue that his white form wasn’t the original. Played that game all the time on the Genesis, wishing it was a port of the X-Men arcade game.
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Kind of a goofy one, but are Mr. Fantastic's stretchy powers conscious or is he always stretchy? By which I mean, if Juggernaut busted into the Baxter building and grabbed Reed, would he just stretch and keep stretching and Reed may not notice, or does Reed have to think about stretching to do it, and it's like flexing a muscle? Like Johnny and Sue have to be conscious to use their powers, but Ben is always a rock monster. I think I've seen a few panels where Reed is knocked out in a battle, and he's just stretched out and draped over whatever's handy, so it should be automatic, no?
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I think it's a bit of both, like if Juggernaut ran in and grabbed him and kept going, he wouldn't be totally solid but he also wouldn't have his feet stay in place while the rest of him goes across town; I'd imagine it more like him flapping behind like a trail of ribbon. He can choose to stretch more or less but his body is going to have some basic slack to it like a normal body would, just a lot more
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It's been inconsistent over the years. Sometimes he's jelly while unconscious and sometimes he's just a guy while unconscious.
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I'm more interested in whatever theorized reason Juggernaut would have to do this.
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Cornwind Evil posted:I'm more interested in whatever theorized reason Juggernaut would have to do this. Someone paid Black Tom Cassidy a large sum of money to tell Marko it'd be a good idea
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DivineCoffeeBinge posted:Someone paid Black Tom Cassidy a large sum of money to tell Marko it'd be a good idea Sounds like something Arcade would do.
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I assume he doesn't turn into a liquid while sleeping next to his wife.
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Recently read Marvel Super-Heroes #8 that has the introduction of Squirrel Girl. I haven't read very much of her adventures so how has her character been changed over the years? Does she use her knuckle spike often? As she grew were her claws better for fighting? Also didn't realise in the U.S. that Squirrel and Girl rhyme.
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bessantj posted:Also didn't realise in the U.S. that Squirrel and Girl rhyme. This is always hilarious to me when I find Anglophones where it doesn't. I need a video of someone saying "Squirrel Girl" where it's not a rhyme. She was used pretty well in New Avengers when she was Luke Cage and Jessica Jones' babysitter for a few issues, and then 90% of her character growth happened in the Unbeatable Squirrel Girl by Ryan North and Erica Henderson.
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Skwirl posted:This is always hilarious to me when I find Anglophones where it doesn't. I need a video of someone saying "Squirrel Girl" where it's not a rhyme. Oh, I get your username now  . Being Welsh I tend to roll the two r that are in the word and it comes out a bit squi-rrrrel. I'll be interested to see what they do with her in New Avengers. I understand she's not a mutant anymore which is a shame but I get why Disney/Marvel may not want more mutant characters.
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bessantj posted:Oh, I get your username now I have my username because I had a friend that used "Goremongrel" for online Quake games and I wanted something that mocked how dark and serious that was so I alternated between "Happy Squirrel" and "Mad Squirrel" and then Squirrel turned into Skwirl and I dropped the adjectives. And then I discovered how great Squirrel Girl was.
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Skwirl posted:This is always hilarious to me when I find Anglophones where it doesn't. I need a video of someone saying "Squirrel Girl" where it's not a rhyme. Her comeback was actually in the Great Lakes Avengers Disassembled miniseries, which was the first time anyone used her since that Marvel Super Heroes book. That was the basis for North's Squirrel Girl series as one of the running gags in the GLA book was cutting back to what Squirrel Girl was doing and she's just defeated some cosmic threat off panel:  After that Bendis used Squirrel Girl a bit but not as much fun and then the Squirrel Girl series started. Edit: I was just flipping through the GLA book and I guess I misremembered which comic the Thanos bit was from. Oh well, still funny. Random Stranger fucked around with this message at 21:05 on Feb 5, 2022 |
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Was it Bendis who made her and Wolverine have "history" together?  Edit: Was it Bendis who had Wolverine and MJ hook up in the Ultimate Universe? Uthor fucked around with this message at 23:26 on Feb 5, 2022 |
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Guilty on vvv: ah, technically correct I guess TwoPair fucked around with this message at 01:54 on Feb 6, 2022 |
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Ult MJ did not hook up with Wolverine. He tried to do something when he was in Peter's body but they didn't bang.
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I didn't disagree. Bendis probably didn't think it through but at least he didn't turn Wolverine into a rapist.
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