fatherboxx posted:

kalel posted:

"copying permanent spells creates a token but doesn't 'create a token'" is really loving with me

do u believe in marigolds posted:

Because the "create a token" is part of reminder text so anything that triggers on creating a token won't trigger on copying a permanent spell? I'm trying to understand this as well.

mandatory lesbian posted:

Im unsure what it means about theros gods and replacement effects. Is this another opalascence nightmare?

kalel posted:

I understand why, it's just something I've never thought about, 99% chance it would never have been a relevant thing to know, but makes sense given the way triggers work in magic

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122.1. A counter is a marker placed on an object or player that modifies its characteristics and/or interacts with a rule, ability, or effect. Counters are not objects and have no characteristics. Notably, a counter is not a token, and a token is not a counter. Counters with the same name or description are interchangeable.

Strong Sauce posted:

I don't get the +1/+1 counters aren't interchangeable statement? Seems like it contradicts this rule.

Strong Sauce posted:

okay.. which is? i'm not an expert on iceberg memes.

fatherboxx posted:

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Rule 104.3f states "If a player would both win or lose the game simultaneously, he or she loses the game."

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he big story of the Honolulu Pro Tour wasn’t Kazuya Mitamura’s $40,000 victory in the finals. The big story happened in the first round, where a young boy known only as Hans did something that is causing many to call him a hero.

Hans’s game was looking unwinnable. He had a negative life total and was kept alive only by his Platinum Angel. His opponent had just cast a Molder Slug, threatening to remove the Angel — Hans’s only artifact — at the beginning of his next turn.

But when it got to that next turn, Hans would say a word that would put the whole series of events in motion. A word that would send ripples throughout Magic history. A word that would cement Hans’s legendary status.

Hans stared at his opponent and said, “No.”

His opponent was taken aback. “Judge!” said the opponent. “He’s refusing to follow my Molder Slug’s triggered ability.”

“Refusing?”

“Refusing.”

“Is this true, Hans?”

Hans nodded.

The judge said, “I have to issue you a game loss, Hans.”

Hans pointed to his Platinum Angel. “I can’t lose the game,” he said. And with that, he proceeded to his draw step, undaunted by the judge’s ruling. Then he skimmed through his deck for marked cards and put those into his hand as well.

“You’re violating multiple game rules,” said the judge, “in addition to ignoring my ruling, and I am issuing a game loss to you.”

Hans, his finger still stuck to the Platinum Angel, like a modern day Little Dutch Boy with his finger plugging the leak in the dike, said, “You can issue all the game losses you want, but with my Platinum Angel in play, they have no effect.” Hans proceeded to the attack phase and swung for 4 with his Angel. He then looked at his opponent’s face-down morphs, referred to outside notes, and substituted cards from his sideboard.

The judge stood before him, flummoxed. Without saying a word, Hans merely looked at the judge while pointing to the Platinum Angel.

It was when Hans cast a Demonic Attorney that the head judge was called over. “Ante cards are banned,” the head judge said. “That’s a complete violation of the rules.” But when he saw Hans’s Platinum Angel in play, he was quieted. He knew he was defeated.

Hans said, “Since the Demonic Attorney’s in the game, we have to do what it says.” He proceeded to put the top card of his opponent’s deck into his trade binder.

The head judge frowned in disapproval. “He’s right.”

It was a matter of hours before Hans owned his opponent’s entire deck, as well many other cards from his opponent’s collection, thanks to a Mindslaver and Ring of Ma’rûf. Each time judges tried to issue Hans a game loss for casting cards without mana, or playing cards in his graveyard, Hans merely pointed to his Platinum Angel.

The cards Hans didn’t want to take from his opponent he tore up, due to interactions involving Chaos Confetti, March of the Machines, and Cytoshape.

Having by this time gathered quite a crowd, Hans produced a folded and wrinkled copy of the DCI Infraction Procedure Guide from his pocket and began skimming it for ideas. He noticed that kicking an opponent’s chair out from under them was listed under “Unsportsmanlike Conduct,” so he did just that. He also kicked the chairs out from under several other nearby players and spectators.

The sun was starting to set. The judges had not even attempted to give Hans a game loss for stalling. One by one, they had hanged their heads and walked away, resigned to their powerlessness in the face of the Platinum Angel. Then one of them hatched a plan. “I know who we can call,” the judge exclaimed.

The next morning, Hans was woken by a voice blaring across the room from a police loudspeaker. “Hans,” the voice said, “this is your mother. I love you. Please sacrifice your Platinum Angel to the Molder Slug’s triggered ability so this can all end.”

Hans lifted his head, looked around the room, and kicked his opponent’s chair out from under him once more.

“Hans,” his mother said, “we miss you. We just want you to come home.”

Hans yawned, cast the Unglued card Handcuffs, and ordered his opponent to touch his hands together.

It was Day Four of the standoff when another voice blared across the room. “Hans,” the voice said, “this is your fiancé. There are only two more days until our wedding, honey. Don’t you still want to get married? You have to end this game now, Hans. Please just sacrifice the Platinum Angel to the Molder Slug. We love you. We’re worried about you.”

Hans’s mouth hung open, agape. A tear came to his eye. “Marcia,” he said. “I love you too.” He looked about him, seemingly aghast at what he had done. “I…” he paused. “I concede.”

A flurry of applause burst through the room. Judges began high-fiving each other and giving Marcia hugs. “Unfortunately,” Hans said, “the concession has no effect since my Platinum Angel is still in play.”

It was two weeks into the game when the military showed up. “Hans,” came a voice from a helicopter. “We have you surrounded. If you do not concede immediately, we will open fire.”

Hans looked up at the helicopter, over at the tanks, and across the street at the snipers. He was still pointing to the Platinum Angel, as stoically as ever.

To this day, a sleeved Platinum Angel remains embedded in Hans’s tombstone. Hans may have lost his life that day, but he never lost the game.

uggy posted:

drat that Honolulu pro tour thing is stupid as gently caress

Strong Sauce posted:

i like that if they scan a creature in the center, and it gets replaced by a card with ninjitsu they have an animation effect where the previous card is "cut up" and replaced by the new card

Pablo Nergigante posted:

They’re changing the rules for crewing so a vehicle can’t tap to crew itself. I didn’t even know that was allowed

BizarroAzrael posted:

I don't think it ever was? When it's not a creature it has no stats. Unless that's to crew it after its animated, just for the sake of reading it.

Pablo Nergigante posted:

They’re changing the rules for crewing so a vehicle can’t tap to crew itself. I didn’t even know that was allowed

Toph Bei Fong posted:

flatluigi posted:

paul, who's on tech, always puts together really slick overlays.

kalel posted:

who? what?

flatluigi posted:

loadingreadyrun's preprerelease all-day stream starts in a few moments, if you wanna see people play with the cards publicly for the first time:

https://twitch.tv/loadingreadyrun

fadam posted:

Dumb question but is there a foil version of the extended art Prosper? Idk where to even look up printings lol

fatherboxx posted:

Captain Invictus posted:

fell down an mtgwiki hole and wound up at vanity cards

can't believe how many old card names I thought were randomly thought up fantasy style names are just anagrams of people's names or nicknames, like "Telim Tor" being an anagram of "Mr. Toilet", the nickname of one of the designers

I understand why they decided not to do vanity cards anymore but it's a shame, I want another Pheldagriff

fatherboxx posted:

The Shortest Path posted:

Banding is a relatively easy mechanic to understand honestly. Nowhere near some of the crazy judge thought exercise nonsense that can come up.

Pablo Nergigante posted:

They’re changing the rules for crewing so a vehicle can’t tap to crew itself. I didn’t even know that was allowed

Pablo Nergigante posted:

They’re changing the rules for crewing so a vehicle can’t tap to crew itself. I didn’t even know that was allowed