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https://twitter.com/TomCostantino/status/1490030089026904068 A look at the full-scale prop of the new shuttle. It's very sleek.
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Neddy Seagoon posted:https://twitter.com/TomCostantino/status/1490030089026904068 It’s a little weird to see something so angular as support craft for an otherwise very curvy starship, but literally anything is better than that old shuttle design 
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Feb 6, 2022 18:09
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It's utterly insane to me that they would be doing this much new design work if this was going to be a final season.
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Feb 6, 2022 18:15
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I'm putting my money on a spin-off
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My Second Re-Reg posted:I'm putting my money on a spin-off Newton did leave to go build space stations.
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Feb 6, 2022 19:14
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They should call the spin-off The Moreville
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Feb 6, 2022 19:15
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They should make the spin-off a prequel series about Isaac's exciting sibling.
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Feb 6, 2022 19:39
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Tom Guycot posted:They should make the spin-off a prequel series about Isaac's exciting sibling. That's how you ruin Part 3: The Kaylon War by making the evil robots that murdered their creators sympathetic as a whole instead of rare exceptions. Also shuttle redesign can make perfect sense in universe they are now at war they have new needs.
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Are we meant to fight a war without EDGES!?
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In war the edges are on your seat, and you're on them.
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Something about shield generators and using more power but being more compact with angles instead of being a perfect sphere or regional overlap. Old design was about protection from the predictable elements and saving power. Very easy to find an in universe reason. The old ones looked like poo poo. You are also way more likely to lose power in combat and need to attempt to make a safe crash landing, we already saw how poorly the old ones handled that, they split in half.
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pixaal posted:Something about shield generators and using more power but being more compact with angles instead of being a perfect sphere or regional overlap. Old design was about protection from the predictable elements and saving power. Very easy to find an in universe reason. The old ones looked like poo poo. You are also way more likely to lose power in combat and need to attempt to make a safe crash landing, we already saw how poorly the old ones handled that, they split in half. The old shuttles are a very peacetime design - They're likely built to handle a wide range of elements and get from Point A to Point B, but in a stand-up fight they're flying coffins. The new ones look like they're designed to have more fighter-like evasive abilities (if not actually able to serve a fighter or gunship role if needed with the visible weapon ports), as well as have better natural atmospheric maneuverability rather than just gently caress-you brute-forced anti-grav. The best description I saw of the old ones was that they're flying rubber ducks, and I can't shake that mental image of them now.
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The old ones were made for if you have to pee two or three times a night. The new ones were made for if you have to pee once a year.
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CPColin posted:They should call the spin-off The Moreville Andville and Xorville.
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Feb 7, 2022 19:00
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I like the design of the new ones in isolation but it doesn't seem like they share the same design language as other union ships, which the old shuttles at least did.
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pixaal posted:You are also way more likely to lose power in combat and need to attempt to make a safe crash landing, we already saw how poorly the old ones handled that, they split in half. Didn't it only do that after it hit a mountain while falling out of orbit?
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The Lord Bude posted:I like the design of the new ones in isolation but it doesn't seem like they share the same design language as other union ships, which the old shuttles at least did. Different times, different design needs. The Union has run into a lot of dangerous poo poo out there, and redesigning and building new shuttles is a lot easier and faster than replacing the entirety of your fleet. I like that it stands out a bit, shows that the Union isn't too tradition bound to change. Besides, they still have the old ones. Maybe they'll bust one out for a science mission or a long term ride where they need more space and don't expect any danger.
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Feb 7, 2022 20:16
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That trailer very much continued The Orville production theming of 'we spent $5m on VFX and $20 on the physical sets'. It's charming in its own way.
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I like how the ship's elevator clearly looks like it's part of the vehicle and not off in it's own weird subspace dimension where it lives with hundreds of other elevators
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Tighclops posted:I like how the ship's elevator clearly looks like it's part of the vehicle and not off in it's own weird subspace dimension where it lives with hundreds of other elevators What are you talking about? 
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It's a fantastic Blade Runner/Doctor Who crossover, but it ain't no Star Trek.
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and since one of the folks responsible for making that sequence is a goon I want to reiterate to them that the actual effects are great It's what they asked you to make that is very very dumb
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Oh yeah there's no Michael Bay blurry shakey cam to hide the detail, you can see exactly how ridiculous the ask was.
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Kurieg posted:What are you talking about? Star Trek V and it's nonsensical turbolift visual gag come to mind when I see this like... I can see Shatner thinking it's hilarious to show the deck numbers flying by as a small visual gag when Spock uses the thruster boots. People in the production probably rolled their eyes, and although that scene threw cannon out the window for a brief moment to illicit a chuckle from the audience, it was a harmless scene overall. The discovery scene feels much more deliberately intentional about it's ignorance of cannon or even common sense in Star Trek. I don't know what else can be said about it... whoever designed that scene just didn't give a gently caress... about anything Star Trek related or even like what the dimensions of the fictional spacecraft in their show are.
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The Bloop posted:the actual effects are great discovery.txt
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Yeah it looks neat it just doesn't make sense that there's a giant empty floating technocity inside a space ship smaller than the Original Enterprise.
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I was going to ask what show is that from but if it’s from Discovery I don’t even want to know. e: yea Orville! You can’t get here soon enough.
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The Bloop posted:and since one of the folks responsible for making that sequence is a goon I want to reiterate to them that the actual effects are great Yeah it's a really cool looking Tron cube but I'm convinced somebody had that rendered just to troll fans because of the absurdity Anyways the Orville looks fantastic and cohesive pretty consistently
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in the TNG poseidon adventure episode, Picard and the children should have had to wander through the turbolift dimension and ran across a tribe of tattered clothed ensigns that got lost in it over the years, in a sort of lord of the flies situation.
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Tom Guycot posted:in the TNG poseidon adventure episode, Picard and the children should have had to wander through the turbolift dimension and ran across a tribe of tattered clothed ensigns that got lost in it over the years, in a sort of lord of the flies situation. So Grey 17 is Missing?
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Iron Crowned posted:So Grey 17 is Missing? Looked this up, and man, i should really get around to watching Babylon 5 one of these days. I always hear good things about it, but i remember as a kid just thinking it looked like a cheap and lovely generic sci fi show i never wanted to watch.
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Tom Guycot posted:Looked this up, and man, i should really get around to watching Babylon 5 one of these days. It's worth it, I'm doing my first watch-through now and just finished season 2. When and if you do give it a shot, there's a B5 "blind watch" thread so that people who are coming in fresh can post our reactions, and (unlike a usual show discussion thread) there won't be spoilers in the open all over it. A couple of us are going episode-by-episode and getting fairly detailed, but lower-effort reactions are welcome too. https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3925635
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Tom Guycot posted:Looked this up, and man, i should really get around to watching Babylon 5 one of these days. It's worth pointing out that Grey 17 Is Missing is considered one of the two worst episodes in the entire show
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Reminder that this thing exists: https://store.steampowered.com/app/1096200/The_Orville__Interactive_Fan_Experience/
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Tom Guycot posted:Looked this up, and man, i should really get around to watching Babylon 5 one of these days. That was my contemporary pre-teen impression of it as well but my god it hits different in the Trump era. B5 is a show that aged like Chateau D'Yquem
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Kurieg posted:Yeah it looks neat it just doesn't make sense that there's a giant empty floating technocity inside a space ship smaller than the Original Enterprise. Cripes, I thought it was on a space station or planet at least. 
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Tom Guycot posted:Looked this up, and man, i should really get around to watching Babylon 5 one of these days. Babylon 5 is one of the best TV shows I've ever seen. I recently re-watched it and man just the diversity of the extras is something special However - it's very theatre. It doesn't feel like a TV show a lot of the time.
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To be clear that's very much a feature not a bug. In fact thinking of it that way helps a lot with getting past the cheap sets and whatnot.
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Babylon 5 is named so because each episode had a budget of 5 dollars but yeah it's a fantastic show and well worth a watch especially for anybody that can tolerate Star Trek e: I really love the music from the earlier seasons where they knew full well that the midi orchestra couldn't carry the emotional beats yet so they went hard on the crazy synth noises and percussion Tighclops fucked around with this message at 04:50 on Feb 8, 2022 |
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