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Shoehead
Sep 28, 2005

Wassup, Choom?
Ya need sumthin'?

quote:

Speaking on RTÉ's Drivtime, Sean Fleming said that people can have a serious impact on their finances by shopping around, rather than complaining.

"Rather than just complaining and [asking] 'What's the Government going to do for me?', you can actually have a serious impact on your own finance, but it involves people having to do some work themselves," Mr Fleming said.

Fianna_fail.txt

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Josef bugman
Nov 17, 2011

Pictured: Poster prepares to celebrate Holy Communion (probablY)

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I really do hate that increasingly large amounts of governments world wide seem to believe that they exist for the sole reason of ignoring what their own constituents ask of them and that the idea of "doing something" is seen as something inherently daft.

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018
Neoliberal decline bad you say?

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
Neoliberal decline may have ruined politics by allowing every social matter to be poisoned by the false easy rhetoric of personal responsibility, no matter how inaccurate, but we only have ourselves to blame. :v:

Quantum of Phallus
Dec 27, 2010

actually i voted socdem

kustomkarkommando
Oct 22, 2012

https://twitter.com/GBNEWS/status/1490905981114621957?t=e8pFxECiKEMU-dwuT-uEdw&s=19

Well now

Shoehead
Sep 28, 2005

Wassup, Choom?
Ya need sumthin'?
He knows it's only a matter of time before someone comes for him over all the accents

Poo In An Alleyway
Feb 12, 2016



Shoehead posted:

He knows it's only a matter of time before someone comes for him over all the accents

Timecode 16:43 if the link goes bonkers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylF-cNIQZlo&t=1002s

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018
Feels like the white guy is the ultimate punchline of that bit though, although it is a bit "heh they talk silly". I'm not a fan of his stuff but I didn't think he built a lot of racial stuff into his sets. But if he's gonna defend Carr then he can get in the bin too idc

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro


I missed Jimmy Carr's execution, will it be on the BBC iPlayer to catch up? Could do with a giggle.

The Question IRL
Jun 8, 2013

Only two contestants left! Here is Doom's chance for revenge...

Failed Imagineer posted:

Feels like the white guy is the ultimate punchline of that bit though, although it is a bit "heh they talk silly". I'm not a fan of his stuff but I didn't think he built a lot of racial stuff into his sets. But if he's gonna defend Carr then he can get in the bin too idc

So from reading the article, it sounds like Tommy recorded this podcast, then after that the Jimmy Carr show was broadcast on Netflix.
So while it's an overall defence of "comedy that offends", he didn't specifically do go to bat for his good mate/early model Terminator, Jimmy Carr.

lemonadesweetheart
May 27, 2010

What did Carr do? His stuff has always been on the line for crass and way too many rape/paedo jokes for someone who looks like him so I'm not surprised he went beyond.

Arquinsiel
Jun 1, 2006

"There is no such thing as society. There are individual men and women, and there are families. And no government can do anything except through people, and people must look to themselves first."

God Bless Margaret Thatcher
God Bless England
RIP My Iron Lady
TBH the problem with Tommy is that he talked to GB News.

gonadic io
Feb 16, 2011

>>=

lemonadesweetheart posted:

What did Carr do? His stuff has always been on the line for crass and way too many rape/paedo jokes for someone who looks like him so I'm not surprised he went beyond.

Joke about how one of the upsides of the holocaust people don't talk about was how many travellers it murdered.

kustomkarkommando
Oct 22, 2012

Arquinsiel posted:

TBH the problem with Tommy is that he talked to GB News.

Yeah going on the professional right wing outrage station to bemoan cancel culture is a bit extra

Southpaugh
May 26, 2007

Smokey Bacon


Quantum of Phallus posted:

actually i voted socdem

You're in luck, they are also neo-liberals and will betray their voting base the first chance they get.

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018

Southpaugh posted:

You're in luck, they are also neo-liberals and will betray their voting base the first chance they get.

:confuoot:

Quantum of Phallus
Dec 27, 2010

Southpaugh posted:

You're in luck, they are also neo-liberals and will betray their voting base the first chance they get.

don’t care , they’re not FF

Southpaugh
May 26, 2007

Smokey Bacon


The soc dems aren't good, guys. They'll get seduced into one of the bigger parties once they've secured a seat in the dail.

Arquinsiel
Jun 1, 2006

"There is no such thing as society. There are individual men and women, and there are families. And no government can do anything except through people, and people must look to themselves first."

God Bless Margaret Thatcher
God Bless England
RIP My Iron Lady
They already told Labour to gently caress off when it was suggested. I found that pretty funny.

Quantum of Phallus
Dec 27, 2010

They have seats in the dail

Quantum of Phallus
Dec 27, 2010

I have massive respect for Roisin shortall leaving Labour when she did.

Southpaugh
May 26, 2007

Smokey Bacon


Quantum of Phallus posted:

They have seats in the dail

I'm talking about in the not too distant "anyone but sinn fein" scramble in the dail.

Venomous
Nov 7, 2011





the entire history of European post-war social democracy should tell you that it is an incredibly bad idea to affix one's hopes to a social democratic party, not least one that is explicitly called the Social Democrats

in conclusion, socialism or barbarism

e: vv meh, you've got me there vv

Venomous fucked around with this message at 15:16 on Feb 8, 2022

Quantum of Phallus
Dec 27, 2010

the entire history of ireland is FF/FG making GBS threads on everyone so whatever

The Question IRL
Jun 8, 2013

Only two contestants left! Here is Doom's chance for revenge...

Southpaugh posted:

I'm talking about in the not too distant "anyone but sinn fein" scramble in the dail.

The last time there was an "anyone but Simn Fein" scramble in the Dail, they were asked and they said no.

https://www.thejournal.ie/social-democrats-ruled-out-of-government-formation-5098503-May2020/

I think that at least earns them the benefit of the doubt over "everything is bad. No point in hoping."

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018
I will vote for SocDems in the hope that they can partake in a broad SF-led coalition with leftist tendencies (not that SF are especially leftist in a European sense). But I don't really expect them to hang tough if FFG offer them something good to support another Grand Coalition. Labour and Greens are just hosed tho

lemonadesweetheart
May 27, 2010

soc dems gave us that baldy prick but most of their other candidates are solid centre leftists. I wish they were more left than they are but they're way better than labour. I could see them going into government with SF over FF/FG/+whatever

Quantum of Phallus
Dec 27, 2010

lemonadesweetheart posted:

soc dems gave us that baldy prick

Thankfully he hosed off and gave us one of the best Vinny B moments

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5sDfewdiWS8

gonadic io
Feb 16, 2011

>>=

lemonadesweetheart posted:

soc dems gave us that baldy prick but most of their other candidates are solid centre leftists. I wish they were more left than they are but they're way better than labour. I could see them going into government with SF over FF/FG/+whatever

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbD1XDhKr8U

Pookah
Aug 21, 2008

🪶Caw🪶





Quantum of Phallus posted:

Thankfully he hosed off and gave us one of the best Vinny B moments

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5sDfewdiWS8

Im not one to get viscerally angry very often, but I want to punch the head off that oval office so so much.
He conned me, and so many others into electing a loving FIANNA FAIL TD.

BURN IN HELL STEPHEN DONNELLY YOU ABSOLUTE SACK OF poo poo!!!

edit: I speculated a while ago about whether Donnelly was either an idiot or a narcissist, and watching that clip, I think he's a delusional idiotic narcissist.
He thinks he can change fianna fail from the inside, single-handedly. He's a very limited, not very bright person, who has convinced himself he can change a long- established, cunning, ugly party to make it 'different'.

Dumb as a bag of rocks and overwhelmingly self-confident.

Pookah fucked around with this message at 21:33 on Feb 8, 2022

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018

Pookah posted:

Im not one to get viscerally angry very often, but I want to punch the head off that oval office so so much.
He conned me, and so many others into electing a loving FIANNA FAIL TD.

BURN IN HELL STEPHEN DONNELLY YOU ABSOLUTE SACK OF poo poo.

He is a big egg oval office and your umbrage is justified

Skull Servant
Oct 25, 2009

👍

Southpaugh
May 26, 2007

Smokey Bacon


The Question IRL posted:

The last time there was an "anyone but Simn Fein" scramble in the Dail, they were asked and they said no.

https://www.thejournal.ie/social-democrats-ruled-out-of-government-formation-5098503-May2020/

I think that at least earns them the benefit of the doubt over "everything is bad. No point in hoping."

I'm not saying "everything is bad" or whatever I'd just encourage voting for the larger left wing party (SF) ahead of the soc dems or voting for a more left wing party (PBP or whoevers local).

Quantum of Phallus
Dec 27, 2010

get this, you can vote for all of your favourite left wing parties

Marenghi
Oct 16, 2008

Don't trust the liberals,
they will betray you
Beware some of those left wing parties will betray you in office.

It even seems like SF are softening on Vulture funds since getting nearly elected. Maybe behind the scenes lobbying going on.

Skull Servant
Oct 25, 2009

Yeah, this argument is kinda moot due to STV. Put the smaller party first and if they don't meet the quota it goes to the bigger party. Put the bigger party first and your vote might go to the smaller party on transfers but there is no guarantee.

My preference last GE was PBP first because they are the furthest left and I spoke to my local candidate who addressed my concerns with them (mostly supporting a vote for Brexit in the North, even if it was from a left-wing criticism of the EU that I don't disagree with). She didn't get in so my vote went to the local SF candidate, then the other SF candidate, the the Green representative. We had no SocDems candidate and I was hardly going to give a vote to Labour. No decent independents in the area either.

Arquinsiel
Jun 1, 2006

"There is no such thing as society. There are individual men and women, and there are families. And no government can do anything except through people, and people must look to themselves first."

God Bless Margaret Thatcher
God Bless England
RIP My Iron Lady

Pookah posted:

Im not one to get viscerally angry very often, but I want to punch the head off that oval office so so much.
He conned me, and so many others into electing a loving FIANNA FAIL TD.

BURN IN HELL STEPHEN DONNELLY YOU ABSOLUTE SACK OF poo poo!!!

edit: I speculated a while ago about whether Donnelly was either an idiot or a narcissist, and watching that clip, I think he's a delusional idiotic narcissist.
He thinks he can change fianna fail from the inside, single-handedly. He's a very limited, not very bright person, who has convinced himself he can change a long- established, cunning, ugly party to make it 'different'.

Dumb as a bag of rocks and overwhelmingly self-confident.
What the gently caress is he trying to change it into though? TBH I think the most plausible thing about him is that he's just a wrecker but he's such a fuckwit that he's even bad at that.

Poo In An Alleyway
Feb 12, 2016



Remember when Ireland Simpsons Fans set up a political party? Wonder what became of that :lol:

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Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018

Poo In An Alleyway posted:

Remember when Ireland Simpsons Fans set up a political party? Wonder what became of that :lol:

Guy was caught wanking in the library, apparently

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