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Cosmik Slop posted:If you ask me, these "incels" should be in cells!! More like they suffer from incel...phalopathy Bunch of donkey brains
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Benny Harvey posted:In seriousness, who wouldn't like to go back in time and slap their former selves for being unreasonably picky? Just me? Lol yeah. Young Shageletic was so brain washed by society and film and TV's propaganda regarding the opposite sex that I never bothered to get to know alot of potentially cool friends/partners. Whatta loving idiot. At least it's something you grow out of. If you're not a loving idiot.
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The opposite for me. Wish I would have thought more of myself and aimed a little higher.
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Shageletic posted:Lol yeah. Young Shageletic was so brain washed by society and film and TV's propaganda regarding the opposite sex that I never bothered to get to know alot of potentially cool friends/partners. Whatta loving idiot. A lot about incels makes sense when you realise they uncritically absorbed what pop culture was telling them about women and relationships. Romcoms have a lot to answer for. Seriously, gently caress up young impressionable people's brains worse than porn.
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Feb 7, 2022 15:27
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Ghost Leviathan posted:A lot about incels makes sense when you realise they uncritically absorbed what pop culture was telling them about women and relationships. Really, I thought that was mainly true for women as they're the audience.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Romcoms have a lot to answer for. Seriously, gently caress up young impressionable people's brains worse than porn. Anyway this one time I was helping a girl in my chem class with balancing equations and she kept twirling her hair, smiling, and uncomfortably pushing her chest towards me. Then she sat on the desk to "get a better look" and I chastised her for being careless when her skirt hiked up. Man, why couldn't someone just show some interest in me 
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Feb 7, 2022 15:58
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Benny Harvey posted:Really, I thought that was mainly true for women as they're the audience. Male-oriented movies do pretty much all the same poo poo. And romantic subplots in everything from sitcoms to children's cartoons. This may seem silly but it's literally the only examples they have to go on. You think their boomer/gen x parents are going to even bother trying to give them any guidance or advice on relationships, even if they had anything useful to offer in a way that the kids want to listen to?
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I'm not sure you can blame romcoms or Hollywood movies in general for inceldom. I think it's a natural, semi-logical consequence of self-loathing and frustration. Most people want to not be at fault for their failings so they create reasons for women not liking them. They'll blame society and women in general for being the way they are and judging them on a few millimeters of bone creating this hyperbolic hierarchy that punished them for reasons that are beyond their control. Of course they never talk about how they never shower or brush their teeth or make women uncomfortable by being weird in general. I think what's funny is that there is an actual loose sexual/attractiveness hierarchy but these goofs always try to play to the top of it and then take their failure to double down on their terrible ideas. I think romcoms and movies in general can normalize abuse and weird relationship dynamics but I don't think it has many connections with incel thought.
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It’s maybe a more general trend in media that presents romance as part of a character’s reward for doing things right or saving the day, or just accomplishing an unrelated goal like saving the local community center from an evil developer. There’s also a pernicious strand of kids’ story that presents heterosexual romance as weirdly adversarial, or like an exercise in satisfying formal requirements or knowing the right thing to say or do when prompted, which would make women seem scary and outside normal experience to heterosexual boys. I agree that profound alienation and normal mental illness left to stew and intensify through the bad kind of online community is what makes an incel. There’s a reason they always have reactionary politics and want to kill people in spectacular ways in addition to being loser weirdos.
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Benny Harvey posted:Really, I thought that was mainly true for women as they're the audience. it's true, being a man I simply have no idea what a romcom is. Sounds like a type of car, maybe? Tarkus posted:I'm not sure you can blame romcoms or Hollywood movies in general for inceldom. I think it's a natural, semi-logical consequence of self-loathing and frustration. Most people want to not be at fault for their failings so they create reasons for women not liking them. They'll blame society and women in general for being the way they are and judging them on a few millimeters of bone creating this hyperbolic hierarchy that punished them for reasons that are beyond their control. Of course they never talk about how they never shower or brush their teeth or make women uncomfortable by being weird in general. I think what's funny is that there is an actual loose sexual/attractiveness hierarchy but these goofs always try to play to the top of it and then take their failure to double down on their terrible ideas. self-loathing might exist regardless but the specific form and projection of generalized personal issues onto sex/women that are characteristic of incels are extremely specific to our cultural context, and are explicitly derived from pop media, hence why there's whole communities of guys right now writing long whiny screeds about how their parents owe them a sister to rape but there weren't in like 1850. there's no Sumerian clay tablets describing the ideal canthal tilt, possibly they all got thrown out by the Chad historians? who can say A Wizard of Goatse fucked around with this message at 23:00 on Feb 7, 2022 |
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Benny Harvey posted:Really, I thought that was mainly true for women as they're the audience. What if romantic comedies were written by men who based it on what they think women want? That one's really gonna bake your noodle later!
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Movies and tv shows tend to have unrealistic and dumb romance because the writers historically have been a bunch of dudes who are total dweebs. So it became this weird thing where dweebs were writing this dumb dweeb poo poo, which was often just power fantasy or wish fulfilment for themselves. Then real life dweebs watch TV or movies instead of gaining their own world experience. There's plenty of writers out there that I enjoy, but I can't think of one that I wouldn't classify at as at least a little fuckin weird.
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seems like a futile effort to pick out some specific genre of anything as responsible for the dudes convinced that there's a global elite of polygamous ultramen out there, and they all look like Johnny Bravo, which is what women want, and they're using up all the sex that's why you can't get any sex which is why nobody respects you but, otoh, I can't imagine how someone could possibly get there without watching one hell of a lot of TV
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A Wizard of Goatse posted:seems like a futile effort to pick out some specific genre of anything as responsible for the dudes convinced that there's a global elite of polygamous ultramen out there, and they all look like Johnny Bravo, which is what women want, and they're using up all the sex that's why you can't get any sex which is why nobody respects you I have, on several occasions, eaten all the pussy. None left. Sorry incels.
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A Wizard of Goatse posted:it's true, being a man I simply have no idea what a romcom is. Sounds like a type of car, maybe? though a shitload of 1800s lit has characters regularly marrying their cousins and/or adopted siblings all the drat time Another key piece of the puzzle is that we're just coming off generations where people got married because basically 'gotta marry someone'.
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Feb 8, 2022 03:44
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https://twitter.com/jordanbpeterson/status/1490550533995868164 Gerald Butts is a Liberal party strategist / Trudeau buddy. lol 'loose mouth'
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Feb 8, 2022 05:24
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Jorp wants people to believe he's some sort of physical badass so desperately, I want to see someone beat him up and post it on YouTube.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:though a shitload of 1800s lit has characters regularly marrying their cousins and/or adopted siblings all the drat time Tecumseh Sherman was adopted into a family and married his step sister. I think it was just proximity.
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Woolie Wool posted:Jorp wants people to believe he's some sort of physical badass so desperately, I want to see someone beat him up and post it on YouTube. All anybody would have to do to defend themselves from him would be carry around a spray bottle of apple cider.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:A lot about incels makes sense when you realise they uncritically absorbed what pop culture was telling them about women and relationships. Talking about Pop culture, IMO, Romcoms are like Disney movies for adults because of the continuation of weird relationship themes (red flags, every time).There has been quite a bit of academic sociocultural and feminist criticism aimed at classic Disney movies for transmitting and maintaining the influence of multiple damaging social and gender role expectations into kids who got hooked on them (or had parents hooked on them and forced the kids to watch). If you've ever met adult Disney super fans, some of this stuff is readily apparent in their actions or thought processes. "You have no good qualities, but you deserve a Prince Charming because you're princess and you exist?" "Women need to be saved because they are all helpless?" Etc. Male and female characters conformed to stereotypical physical forms/shapes, social and gender roles, and expected actions that followed what was normal for the time period. There's definitely a body of criticism aimed at Disney movies, mostly the classics, but also many of the new ones, too. For example, here's a listicle that points out some of the messaging about Disney princesses, which I will summarize with the topic titles: https://screenrant.com/disney-princesses-aged-poorly-cinderella-ariel-belle/ quote:Some Of The Storylines Suggest A Woman Should Change Herself To Get A Man To Love Her You can imagine that a girl or boy who watched Disney movies multiple times week for the first 6+ years of their life is going to get some weird ideas about themselves and their role in the world. And you know who LOVES the messaging of Disney movies and can't shut the gently caress up about how he thinks they perfectly reflect human society? loving Jorp!
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PITY BONER posted:"You have no good qualities, but you deserve a Prince Charming because you're princess and you exist?" 
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I take it you've never visited r/femaledatingstrategy?
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PITY BONER posted:I take it you've never visited r/femaledatingstrategy? Pretty sure at least well over half of that sub, or possibly 99%, is dudes fakeposting as women. That said, given all the stories of teenage girls who will do literally anything except tell a boy that they want to go out with him, I suppose it's not much better for women either.
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I feel I should post Lindsay Ellis's take down of the postmodern Disney princess interpretation. https://youtu.be/NeuLEu9ZePc
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Woolie Wool posted:Jorp wants people to believe he's some sort of physical badass so desperately, I want to see someone beat him up and post it on YouTube. He's owning people by awkwardly forcing big words into twitter posts
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Feb 8, 2022 22:29
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Jorp looks like his bones would shatter into a million pieces if a cat jumped in his lap so I would pay any amount of money to see him in a fight.
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Feb 8, 2022 22:51
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he'd lose in a physical altercation with a glass of cider, sure, but imagine the foolhardiness in trying to get in an online pomposity match with the dude who's already throwing around "calumnious cronies" like the villain in a regency romance novel
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Pretty sure at least well over half of that sub, or possibly 99%, is dudes fakeposting as women. Some loving effort if true. I don't get the reluctance to believe FDS is actually women. Honestly kind of sexist to think women can't be trash people as much as men.
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Benny Harvey posted:Some loving effort if true. Well, its Reddit. I wouldn't really take anything on the site at face value or as a litmus for how people actually feel or act because 90% of posts are just trying to hit a moving target to get as much karma as possible. Also, if you look at the "instant karma" subs a lot of the most updooted posts are women getting punched in the face by some giant ripped dude and redditors being like "THIS IS EQUAL TREATMENT RIGHT HERE". Point being, anything painting women in a bad light, broadly, will gain upvotes. Stay off of reddit.
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Yehhhh, I'm sorry for contributing to this derail, it's getting weird
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This feels like the most relevant thread to ask this question in but where did so many guys get the idea that wiping your rear end will turn you gay? It's such a stupid belief yet there's enough really nasty guys who believe it that it must have come from an actual source even if it was just something dumb like a 4chan troll.
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Feb 9, 2022 01:47
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gays do bum stuff ergo procto i'm homo
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so jorp impacts his bowel so he can't poo poo that he might forego wiping because it's gay.
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Tighclops posted:so jorp impacts his bowel so he can't poo poo that he might forego wiping because it's gay. All the poo poo comes from his mouth instead.
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https://twitter.com/jordanbpeterson/status/1491195256075079680?s=20&t=FTBt3Xx_a8abv6tPNiaRfw jorp is going tactical, quick everyone lock up your medicine cabinets
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maybe he heard everyone saying they could easily beat him up. you show 'em jordan!!
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I guarantee that spindly-rear end poo poo for brains could not ruck a single mile in full mil gear. That poo poo is minimum 80 pounds just from vest, plates, extenders, weapon, ammo, water. Add in something fun like being the radio guy or a 240B and you're cracking a hundred pounds easy riding on you shoulders.
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