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net cafe scandal: Mar 18, 2011

Pulcinella posted:

-Shield Counters
-Jumping attacks
-Jumping while firing arrows
-Jumping in general
-Enemies have a hidden posture meter that can only be broken with certain moves (e.g. jump attacks, shield counters, multiple parries. From network test players it sounds like dodging and R1 attacks alone will almost never break the posture meter).
-All spells can be charged (which takes more time, but has no additional FP cost).
-Spells can be chain cast so spells should be faster now.
-Power.Stancing.Is.Back!
-Can swap weapon arts between weapons (and the ones available seem more useful this time around. They might also be in the �good for posture breaking� category that jump attacks and counters are in).
-I think DS1 style poise is back. (I.e. good poise that makes heavy armor worth wearing rather than DS3s poise that helps with hyper armor but that�s only available on certain weapons with certain moves and only at specific points in the move).
-Strength also increases equip load so you can more easily use the heavy strength weapons and armor
-Collectible summons. I�ve read somewhere that you can level these up but I�m not sure if that�s confirmed.
-I think all healing is now AoE (for friendlies only. Don�t worry about healing enemies). So you can heal your summons. TBF I think this was how most healing worked in DS3, but there were far fewer NPC summons. In DS2 almost every area and boss had 1 (many even had 2) NPC summons but it took a long time to get the AoE healing. And I think DS2 summons were designed to just tank hits. So you would heal for 600 and their health bar would barely move because they would have something like 4000 health but then be terrible at dodging.
-Make your own consumables. There seem to be reusable pots (reminds me of the jars from Zelda OoT) that you can mix various materials in to make your own consumables. Like one that makes you explode but also heals you so you can blow up the enemies around you without getting hurt.
-Mounted Combat
-A lot of weapons seem to have improved blocking damage reduction compared to their equivalents in DS3. Obviously it�s not 100% physical reduction like a big shield, but it seems to hint that even if you are two handing, their is still an emphasis on blocking and blocking (likely for guard countering) is an expected part of combat, not just blocking to reduce damage. I.e. shields and blocking are more active and less engendering of passivity.

Edit: I will say Gael and to a lesser extent Black Flame Friede really, really were running up against the limits of DS3. They almost move too fast and are more like Bloodborne enemies than DS3 enemies. When Gael gets into some combo you basically just have to dodge and wait for him to finish.

Great loving post. It's all so unbelievably god drat exciting. I really look forward to struggling to keep track of all of the options available to me in every second of every encounter in this game.
If I had one thing to add to this, it's the way the open world fundamentally changes certain boss fights and pvp encounters. One of my favorite moments from watching CNT PVP videos to tide myself over was a moment where an invader stood on a cliff overlooking players fighting Agheel and then instant transmissioned down (another extremely cool new mechanic) to explore the very many ways he could screw over the players in an already brutally hard fight. It just rules, it's a whole new dimension, they totally nailed the interweave of sandbox and Dark Souls multiplayer.

Was there really not a single spell you could charge or chain-input in any of the previous Souls games?

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a kitten: Aug 5, 2006

I just want a ridiculous giant two handed sword, extra bonus points it's also green and magical

# ? Feb 8, 2022 20:19

enojy: Sep 11, 2001; bass rattle
stars out
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Overbite posted:

Let me dual wield bows

They do already have the animation for it (magic user trying to cast without enough MP)

# ? Feb 8, 2022 20:30

skasion: Feb 13, 2012; Why don't you perform zazen, facing a wall?

net cafe scandal posted:

Was there really not a single spell you could charge or chain-input in any of the previous Souls games?

Flashsword in DS3 could combo

# ? Feb 8, 2022 20:46

Son of Thunderbeast: Sep 21, 2002

Farron Darts could be chain cast

# ? Feb 8, 2022 21:22

pop fly to McGillicutty: Feb 2, 2004; A peckish little mouse!

Gonna be a lunatic prison mage who uses nothing BUT magic.

# ? Feb 8, 2022 21:28

bows1: May 16, 2004; Chill, whale, chill

Groovelord Neato posted:

https://twitter.com/ELDENRING/status/1474047150598213638?s=20&t=VEc_TFGnYhHK4gyWyZXRjA

new talking mechanism besides the stones... awesome

edit - oh on second watch hes using a stone just not breaking it

# ? Feb 8, 2022 21:28

huh: Jan 23, 2004; Dinosaur Gum

Bread Set Jettison posted:

Youre a prisoner which means you get a weird hat

https://twitter.com/ELDENRING/status/1491079477350526981?s=20&t=9FQw5MbcPhYcKdWQvljJvQ

is prisoner a class

What's with the blind-in-one-eye theme?

# ? Feb 8, 2022 21:31

Big Bizness: Jun 19, 2019

huh posted:

What's with the blind-in-one-eye theme?

Berserk

# ? Feb 8, 2022 21:34

Sum Gai: Mar 23, 2013

Pulcinella posted:

-Enemies have a hidden posture meter that can only be broken with certain moves (e.g. jump attacks, shield counters, multiple parries. From network test players it sounds like dodging and R1 attacks alone will almost never break the posture meter).
-Power.Stancing.Is.Back!

These things don't work together that well, though- powerstance means losing the ability to block and doesn't have strong attacks, and since light attacks no longer do much or any posture damage/dual wielding is all about a lot of light attacks in quick succession, you can either stagger bosses or actually use your powerstanced weapons, not both.

Sum Gai fucked around with this message at 21:53 on Feb 8, 2022

# ? Feb 8, 2022 21:45

Bread Set Jettison: Jan 8, 2009

Overbite posted:

Let me dual wield bows

power stance cross bows

# ? Feb 8, 2022 21:54

Bananasaurus Rex: Mar 19, 2009

im gonna powerstance pants

# ? Feb 8, 2022 22:03

Bread Set Jettison: Jan 8, 2009

powerstance skeleton wheels and become that guy from twisted metal

# ? Feb 8, 2022 22:07

Charliegrs: Aug 10, 2009

My first build will be a 2 handed big sword strength build. It doesn't get much simpler than that.

# ? Feb 8, 2022 22:29

BeanpolePeckerwood: May 4, 2004; I MAY LOOK LIKE SHIT BUT IM ALSO DUMB AS FUCK

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# ? Feb 8, 2022 23:56

AlternateNu: May 5, 2005; ドーナツダメ！

Overbite posted:

Let me dual wield bows

Let me do trick shots and triple shot of various arrow types without the need of a special bow.

# ? Feb 9, 2022 00:15

huh: Jan 23, 2004; Dinosaur Gum

Big Bizness posted:

Berserk

I wonder at what stage they are no longer references/homages and straight up copying. Not that I particularly care.

# ? Feb 9, 2022 01:26

JBP: Feb 16, 2017; You've got to know, to understand,
Baby, take me by my hand,
I'll lead you to the promised land.

Berserk is the only media where anyone ever lost, damaged or obscured an eye.

# ? Feb 9, 2022 01:33

Charliegrs: Aug 10, 2009

huh posted:

I wonder at what stage they are no longer references/homages and straight up copying. Not that I particularly care.

From has copied from Berserk before. The Bone Wheels for example. They are literally a 1 to 1 copy from the Bone Wheels in Berserk.

# ? Feb 9, 2022 01:38

BeanpolePeckerwood: May 4, 2004; I MAY LOOK LIKE SHIT BUT IM ALSO DUMB AS FUCK

Miyazaki has good taste yall

# ? Feb 9, 2022 01:39

Ichabod Tane: Oct 30, 2005; A most notable
coward, an infinite and endless liar, an hourly promise breaker, the owner of no one good quality.

https://youtu.be/_Ojd0BdtMBY?t=4

An homage is an homage. IMO, its only an egregious thing when it occurs within the same genre. Miyazaki makes video games, Berserk is an anime.

# ? Feb 9, 2022 01:50

Happy Noodle Boy: Jul 3, 2002

Maybe he should stop copying Berzerk. And poison swamps.

# ? Feb 9, 2022 01:54

Son of Thunderbeast: Sep 21, 2002

He should make a castle with a poison swamp inside it

# ? Feb 9, 2022 01:57

BeanpolePeckerwood: May 4, 2004; I MAY LOOK LIKE SHIT BUT IM ALSO DUMB AS FUCK

he can't help himself :allears:

# ? Feb 9, 2022 01:57

Big Bizness: Jun 19, 2019

JBP posted:

Berserk is the only media where anyone ever lost, damaged or obscured an eye.

IDK if you're being sarcastic or not but all of Miyazaki's games so far have been absolutely loaded with very direct visual and conceptual references.

# ? Feb 9, 2022 01:59