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peter gabriel
Nov 8, 2011

Hello Commandos
https://www.jitbit.com/alexblog/198-chinese-magical-hard-drive/

:v:

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Beve Stuscemi
Jun 6, 2001




Those are really common on less scrupulous sites on the internet

History Comes Inside!
Nov 20, 2004




It’s just fake memory cards/thumb drives but with extra steps.

EL BROMANCE
Jun 10, 2006

COWABUNGA DUDES!
🥷🐢😬



Yeah when that link was posted back in 2011 it was definitely a ‘oh wow that’s super devious and kinda cunning’ moment, but now it’s insanely commonplace and you shouldn’t buy storage from anywhere not 100% trustworthy because of it.

Kazy
Oct 23, 2006

0x38: FLOPPY_INTERNAL_ERROR



Finally replaced the RTC battery for my Libretto. It keeps time now!

Why was I putting it off so long? Let me quote the service manual:

quote:

1. Remove the battery, optional PC card, HDD, optional memory module, keyboard,and
display assembly as described in Sections 4.2 through 4.7.

Had to pretty much take the motherboard out of the entire thing in order to get to the battery.




Now if only I could find some dang RAM. :argh:

Beve Stuscemi
Jun 6, 2001




Librettos rule

JnnyThndrs
May 29, 2001

HERE ARE THE FUCKING TOWELS

Woolie Wool posted:

If you don't mind spending :retrogames: money there is nothing like an IDE expansion card and an LS-120 drive. Reading and writing floppies at full IDE speeds, no USB, no external boxes. :pcgaming:

I do this with every one of my computers, it works great. For awhile I was able to find external LS-120's without their special cord really cheap, then shuck them, but they're harder to find nowadays.

an actual frog
Mar 1, 2007


HEH, HEH, HEH!
:swoon:

Looks like it's in fantastic condition, too! I keep seeing beat-up examples on ebay and even as they are they easily fetch 250 - 300 bucks

Kazy
Oct 23, 2006

0x38: FLOPPY_INTERNAL_ERROR

an actual frog posted:

:swoon:

Looks like it's in fantastic condition, too! I keep seeing beat-up examples on ebay and even as they are they easily fetch 250 - 300 bucks

It was in really good cosmetic condition, but it was with a smoker for a bit. Luckily I was able to scrub most of the yellowing/smell out.

Have trouble running a few of the games I wanted because it's 640x480, so no Lego Loco for me. :v: Also it had super proprietary upgrade RAM, and now I've been scouring the web to see if I can find some new old stock. There's a couple of places that claim to sell it but I haven't had any luck emailing them to confirm.

Michaeldim
Jan 29, 2011

:byodood:
Crossposting this thing from the obsolete thread, got it at the thrift store.







It doubles as an answering machine with a microcassette! The phone handset is full-size too, not a tiny one like faxes normally have, so IDK if they intended this to be used as a giant deskphone w/ a fax or what, but it looks rad.

oh it will also record whole-rear end calls to the cassette if you hit the memo button in a call, which is cool.

Currently have it plugged up to my ATA, hooked into my dumb PBX. I sent a test fax to FaxToy, but I don't have another fax to test an incoming fax, but the printer works in the copy function at least:

EL BROMANCE
Jun 10, 2006

COWABUNGA DUDES!
🥷🐢😬



I remember when I got my first modem at age 11 or so, it had fax capabilities. Oh boy, thinks I who for some reason thought I'd get more than about 3 uses out of this at that age. I remember once it was set up calling my mum in work and asking her to send a fax so I could test it out, and after the usual beeps and squeals slowly an image appeared on the screen in her handwriting.

"Clean your room".

I've never been so owned.

Fantastic Foreskin
Jan 6, 2013

A golden helix streaked skyward from the Helvault. A thunderous explosion shattered the silver monolith and Avacyn emerged, free from her prison at last.

Humphreys posted:

But happy enough to buy overpriced cheapshit headphones with terrible sound.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OA1vmN-skXo&t=6s

Beve Stuscemi
Jun 6, 2001




Got some decent tech relics from the local thrift store today. I need to find a way to charge the dvd camcorder, I don’t know if it works or not right now, but I do have the mini DVD’s for it, weirdly. My local place does boxes of “stuff”, so I wound up with all this. The clie is a weird palm device, so mostly useless today and the tv takes composite in over a headphone jack looking connector, which I think I have, plus its in really nice shape





Also in the box was this trackball. I had no idea they became optical in the later years, I assumed it would be like a ball mouse, with rollers inside, but no, there is a laser sensor in there.

Woolie Wool
Jun 2, 2006


JnnyThndrs posted:

I do this with every one of my computers, it works great. For awhile I was able to find external LS-120's without their special cord really cheap, then shuck them, but they're harder to find nowadays.

Too bad there's seemingly no hardware that will let you read or write to 5.25" disks on any EFI computer.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule



Somewhere in the Aliexpress thread is some posts by me showing a 'SSD' with a SD card inside. And a bonus External CD Burner that PRETENDS to burn discs (I have a long boring video showing start to finish of the scam).

KozmoNaut
Apr 23, 2008

Happiness is a warm
Turbo Plasma Rifle


Jim Silly-Balls posted:




Also in the box was this trackball. I had no idea they became optical in the later years, I assumed it would be like a ball mouse, with rollers inside, but no, there is a laser sensor in there.

The fancier ones have two or more sensors. I have a Kensington trackball with a cue ball-sized trackball, and can use it as a scroll wheel by twisting the ball instead of rolling it.

Mantle
May 15, 2004

KozmoNaut posted:

The fancier ones have two or more sensors. I have a Kensington trackball with a cue ball-sized trackball, and can use it as a scroll wheel by twisting the ball instead of rolling it.

Is it still possible to get a good quality modern production cueball trackball? What are some recommendations for new or used? USB preferred.

KozmoNaut
Apr 23, 2008

Happiness is a warm
Turbo Plasma Rifle


It's this one: https://www.kensington.com/p/products/ergonomic-desk-accessories/ergonomic-input-devices/slimblade-trackball/

It looks like something a Bond villain would use.

Manky
Mar 20, 2007


Fun Shoe

Mantle posted:

Is it still possible to get a good quality modern production cueball trackball? What are some recommendations for new or used? USB preferred.

I've been using one of these for a few years now, I think it's great. Only one sensor though. https://elecomus.com/web/product/3271/

snorch
Jul 27, 2009
I have the logitech M570 and it's pretty good. It's nice to be able to just rest my hand anywhere and mouse around without much surface underneath.

Casimir Radon
Aug 2, 2008


My first pointing device was a 40 button ProHance trackball my mom used for CAD. LGR did a review of the mouse version of that several years ago. I still much prefer trackballs. I used Logitech trackballs from ‘97 to ‘15 when I switched over the Elecom.


This is what I’m using now.

blugu64
Jul 17, 2006

Do you realize that fluoridation is the most monstrously conceived and dangerous communist plot we have ever had to face?

https://www.kensington.com/p/products/ergonomic-desk-accessories/ergonomic-input-devices/expert-mouse-wireless-trackball-1/

Is the one he wants though. They also still make a wired version too.

Pham Nuwen
Oct 30, 2010




I have this trackball. It's a good trackball. Combined with a Kinesis Advantage 2 keyboard it really improved some pretty serious shoulder/arm pain

SlowBloke
Aug 14, 2017

Jim Silly-Balls posted:




Also in the box was this trackball. I had no idea they became optical in the later years, I assumed it would be like a ball mouse, with rollers inside, but no, there is a laser sensor in there.

That is my office daily driver, salvaged from a box of ewaste since it was “unwieldy” to the rest of the staff. They are decent but they tend to get stuffed full of lint and dust in the ball cradle.

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

SlowBloke posted:

tend to get stuffed full of lint and dust in the ball cradle.

:same:

Beve Stuscemi
Jun 6, 2001




Lmao

Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003

by Hand Knit

SlowBloke posted:

That is my office daily driver, salvaged from a box of ewaste since it was “unwieldy” to the rest of the staff. They are decent but they tend to get stuffed full of lint and dust in the ball cradle.

Cleaning lint and dust out of the cradle is the best part

Trabant
Nov 26, 2011

All systems nominal.

Iron Crowned posted:

Cleaning lint and dust out of the cradle is the best part

Conversely

Progressive JPEG
Feb 19, 2003

A few months back I got the 486 back up and running and was using a two button serial ball mouse with it. The ball mouse kept jumping around when playing TIE Fighter, making it really frustrating when trying to aim precisely. I had forgotten how jittery ball mice were and how much better optical mice were when they were introduced.

When looking for a solution I ended up finding this Rube Goldberg-esque software that would interpret USB mouse protocol commands and then translate them, on the fly, into emulated serial mouse output.

I had an Raspberry Pi 1 that hadn't been used for several years lying around so I put the software on there, then filled both its USB ports with an optical mouse for the input and a USB/serial adapter for the output. It worked right away, and playing TIE Fighter was an entirely different game with a modern optical mouse. No more random jitter when trying to aim at the right pixel. I haven't noticed additional latency either. All it took was a C program and a Raspberry Pi thats orders of magnitude more powerful than the 486 it's serving.

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Progressive JPEG
Feb 19, 2003

And before you ask, yes I have a USB/PS2 adapter but not a PS2/Serial adapter and so I haven't been able to try just using passive adapters. But one benefit of the Rube Goldberg method is that it's got options for adjusting the sensitivity and swapping mouse buttons that you wouldn't find in a DOS game.

Mantle
May 15, 2004

Didn't early USB mice suck for poll rate? I remember Thresh saying something about preferring PS/2 mice at 200hz.

Computer viking
May 30, 2011
Now with less breakage.

Mantle posted:

Didn't early USB mice suck for poll rate? I remember Thresh saying something about preferring PS/2 mice at 200hz.

Keyboards, too. As far as I know, if you really want a 1000Hz poll rate or whatever, you to this day need either PS/2 or proprietary USB drivers.
(But it's better than in the USB 1 days)

CaptainSarcastic
Jul 6, 2013



According to some online test I just ran my wireless mouse polls up to 130hz, which feels fine to me. I have a freesync monitor that maxes out at 144hz. Is there any real benefit to a polling rate in excess of your refresh rate? I guess I already probably know the answer - "e-sports," right?

Sweevo
Nov 8, 2007

i sometimes throw cables away

i mean straight into the bin without spending 10+ years in the box of might-come-in-handy-someday first

im a fucking monster

Super high polling rates are the computer version of audiophile bullshit. Nobody can actually tell 1000hz from 200hz, but it must be better somehow because Number Bigger.

LifeSunDeath
Jan 4, 2007

still gay rights and smoke weed every day
Esports are like the watersports of sports. All pisssss.

Pham Nuwen
Oct 30, 2010



According to https://skill-test.net/polling-rate-test, my Logitech PS/2 mouse plugged into a USB adapter does about 60Hz. I've been working on a custom mouse using a high-end gaming sensor, and for kicks I plugged that in; it averages almost 700Hz, which is a lot better than I'd have expected given that it's just running lowest-effort firmware I wrote myself on a cheap PIC.

Personally I can't tell any different between the two in day-to-day use.

Computer viking
May 30, 2011
Now with less breakage.

High monitor refresh rates feel notably nicer in fast games, but I assume the returns start diminishing somewhere. If I, a 38 year old spare time gamer playing ten year old games, can easily tell the inference between 60Hz and 144Hz, then there's at least room for differences on that scale to matter?

I imagine you'd want a mouse polling rate that's at least the same as your display refresh rate. Several times more would probably be good: if it's merely double, then presumably you'd risk some frames having one poll's worth of movement and the next having three. A 2000 Hz rate is pointless for reaction time, but at least you won't get any notable aliasing between the polling rate and the refresh rate. Assuming there's no mouse smoothing in effect, of course.

E: to be clear I don't know if this is a genuine issue or if it would be glossed over somewhere in the chain from sensor to rendered game graphics. But it's at least the sort of thing that I can imagine happening when you have two mostly independent clocks on similar frequencies interacting.

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Progressive JPEG
Feb 19, 2003

To be clear, in the case of the 486 any benefit there might be from polling frequencies is greatly outweighed by not having the original serial ball mouse jam up randomly in the middle of firing at rebel scum. Upgrading to any optical mouse was a huge improvement.

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Mantle
May 15, 2004

I also kind of remember sometimes needing to reboot when a ps2 mouse or keyboard got unplugged. Was that a hardware or Windows thing? Or a me thing

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The Wurst Poster
Apr 8, 2005

Literally the Wurst...

Seriously...

For REALSIES.

Mantle posted:

I also kind of remember sometimes needing to reboot when a ps2 mouse or keyboard got unplugged. Was that a hardware or Windows thing? Or a me thing

I don't think if it was unplugged but wasn't plugged in after windows 9x booted because it would check on start up for a ps/2 device and if none was found it didn't bother checking again. I don't think Microsoft thought that regular PC users wouldn't reboot often or not need anything resembling more than a day of uptime. Probably why you had to reboot windows after setting a static IP and windows 9x would crash at 49.7 days on the dot.

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