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yeah americans can gently caress off and wallow in their own poo poo, we're perfectly capable of ruining this country on our own
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How openly our foreign policy is being steered by revanchist Ukrainian national mythology has me believing in the Great Man theory of history again. I don’t know if she sees herself as Canada’s Bismark, but I get the impression that she’s steering the ship of state, including to war if she likes.
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the seeds of that poo poo were sown before freeland was born. shes not the cause of any of this. history made her
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CLAM DOWN posted:yeah americans can gently caress off and wallow in their own poo poo, we're perfectly capable of ruining this country on our own i am no poo poo happily now leaving this thread for good because of this past page of posts, you guys take it easy up there remember me if you need a texan for some bizarre reason but enjoy your lives and pour one up for me
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Feb 9, 2022 19:06
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Frosted Flake posted:What’s the deal with Margaret? Usually that level of national embarrassment and personal indiscretion, besides being a security risk, is not the kind of thing you’d think would be allowed to go on. Her husband was Quebecois so when she got the chance to be around humans she obviously took it.
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Feb 9, 2022 19:13
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CaptainACAB posted:Her husband was Quebecois so when she got the chance to be around humans she obviously took it. HEY! (  he knows…)
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jsoh posted:the seeds of that poo poo were sown before freeland was born. shes not the cause of any of this. history made her yeah this, she isn't driving the ship of state, social history is driving her
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vyelkin posted:yeah this, she isn't driving the ship of state, social history is driving her she is still a nazi heir tho fake e: which proves the point really. that’s why she’s being elevated
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Waffle House posted:i am no poo poo happily now leaving this thread for good because of this past page of posts, you guys take it easy up there ladies and gentleman, we got em
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actionjackson posted:is pepsi still used as an insult anywhere in Canada boomers call montrealers pepsis because a Montreal breakfast is a cigarette and a pepsi, so the story goes I married a Quebecker and when I told her this she said “hein???” e: fuckn autocorrect a primate has issued a correction as of 19:41 on Feb 9, 2022 |
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actionjackson posted:is pepsi still used as an insult anywhere in Canada I don't know. You should go to Quebec and find out!
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https://twitter.com/ChalicothereX/status/1491470053790793730 lol
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does it count as a faction trying to overthrow the government if the protest organizers release official statements of their goals and number one is "overthrow the government"?
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a primate posted:boomers call montrealers pepsis because a Montreal breakfast is a cigarette and a pepsi, so the story goes I had heard it had to do with coke being a bit more costly in canada, so pepsi was "lower class" or something https://maisonneuve.org/post/2010/02/4/how/ quote:The lexicography team for the Canadian Oxford Dictionary tell me the epithet “pepsi” derives from the belief, first held by Quebec anglos in the late forties, that their French-speaking counterparts swilled Pepsi because they were too poor to afford Coke (which was marginally more expensive).
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a primate posted:boomers call montrealers pepsis because a Montreal breakfast is a cigarette and a pepsi, so the story goes hey now, sometimes we have a bagel instead and then get really haughty about which store we bought the bagel from
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I feel blessed that I grew up english in a french montreal neighboorhood. I was always the only english guy on my hockey team and we played in a house league where all the other teams were mostly english. I caught poo poo all the time no matter what language I spoke lol But I really learned to speak french well in those locker rooms. e: I should add that my entire loving career is based on speaking french in english Canada, with my B.A. coming in a not so close second. Another Bill has issued a correction as of 20:04 on Feb 9, 2022 |
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vyelkin posted:yeah this, she isn't driving the ship of state, social history is driving her Intervention to the point of deploying military forces to support The Ukraine isn’t something baked into the history of either Canadian Society or the Liberal Party though, right? She introduced that and Trudeau’s (weak?) leadership let her make that a cornerstone of our foreign policy. Even in terms of personality, from what I’ve heard Trudeau is the polite, gentlemanly, personable Wilhelm to Freeland’s tough and domineering Bismarck. Unless you mean Mackenzie King taking in all the collaborators to crush the Canadian left set the stage for inordinate influence in Canadian politics and a confrontation with Russia down the line, and if not her some Ukrainian Canadian from an influential emigre family was going to climb the ranks of the Liberal Party, which as “Canada’s Natural Party of Government” would eventually attain power, and because NATO continued to exist, would eventually lead to a confrontation with Russia. I can see that, in a way, but it seems like she’s managed to both accumulate power and use it in pursuit of her project in a way that was not overdetermined as Canada’s path into the 21st century. Chrétien and Martin both managed to keep us out of Iraq, which would have seemed to be a much more natural policy move than a battlegroup in the Baltic.
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mediaphage posted:i assumed it was just francophobia. i was told that pepsi just actually bothered making ads targeting francophones, thus making it more popular in francophone parts of canada and assholes took it from there ICI, C'EST PEPSI gently caress off
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Frosted Flake posted:Intervention to the point of deploying military forces to support The Ukraine isn’t something baked into the history of either Canadian Society or the Liberal Party though, right? She introduced that and Trudeau’s (weak?) leadership let her make that a cornerstone of our foreign policy. Even in terms of personality, from what I’ve heard Trudeau is the polite, gentlemanly, personable Wilhelm to Freeland’s tough and domineering Bismarck. You're overthinking it. It isn't about her as an individual politician, it's about the influence of Canada's right-wing Ukrainian diaspora, which makes up about 4% of the Canadian population and is extremely politically active and influential for all the reasons you laid out. Even without a person of Ukrainian descent in a position of foreign policy influence, Canada would be supportive of Ukraine for that reason. Hell, if you look back to the Harper years, Harper was also extremely supportive of Ukraine, to the point of "confronting" Putin over it, which most people laughed at but which played extremely well with Ukrainian-Canadian conservatives in Western Canada. It's a consistent aspect of Canadian foreign policy, it has been across multiple governments, it would be with or without Freeland as foreign minister, and it's rooted in the social history of Canada's Ukrainian diaspora more than the individual personalities of any one politician at the top.
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Frosted Flake posted:Intervention to the point of deploying military forces to support The Ukraine isn’t something baked into the history of either Canadian Society or the Liberal Party though, right? She introduced that and Trudeau’s (weak?) leadership let her make that a cornerstone of our foreign policy. Even in terms of personality, from what I’ve heard Trudeau is the polite, gentlemanly, personable Wilhelm to Freeland’s tough and domineering Bismarck. her own ambitions are not irrelevant to her career path but her ascent has a lot to do with current geo politics and who her ideological goals align her with. individuals aren’t irrelevant to history, but the arcs are drawn by class interests, not individual vision
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I mean hell deployment of Canadian troops to Ukraine started way back in 2015 and as far as I know the numbers haven't changed much since then: https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/ukraine-crisis-canada-sending-200-trainers-for-ukraine-military-1.3031806 Freeland hasn't actually materially changed Canadian policy towards Ukraine or Russia at all, she just talks about it differently because she has a personal connection where Harper or Baird didn't, but the politics are the same for both governments.
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apatheticman posted:https://twitter.com/jkenney/status/1491427102989889538?s=20&t=vUjkUg7ng0n0CSeSbh1RyA I think this is his first actual apology, and not "I'm sorry if anyone was offended"
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Ron Paul Atreides posted:somewhere along the line greenwald really became an insufferable dickhead Starts with Peter and ends with Thiel
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Do not even ask posted:even as a joke... just oof Quebecios are by far the worst honkies. They go on and on endlessly about how oppressed and aggrieved they are and how their beautiful culture of putting gravy on fries and being racist is threatened, and the Canadian government bends over backwards to appease these baying acadian psychopaths while literally bulldozing native children into mass graves. These are a "people" so odious that even the French cannot stand them. They're American Boers. They should be ground into a paste and used as fertilizer when the land is given back to the indigenous Canadians.
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CaptainACAB posted:Quebecios are by far the worst honkies. lol cool
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CaptainACAB posted:Quebecios are by far the worst honkies. 8 000 000 people and they're literally all the same, yeap gently caress off lol
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Powershift posted:I think this is his first actual apology, and not "I'm sorry if anyone was offended" This is the first one that likely had consequences in his personal life e: What’s up with the old school Anglo tirade against the uncouth and superstitious Quebecers? That’s something you don’t see much these days.
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CaptainACAB posted:Quebecios are by far the worst honkies. yankee go home
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