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That’s Galadriel afaict Edit Here 
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Feb 10, 2022 14:37
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such bullshit
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Feb 10, 2022 14:43
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That's a heck of an article All the photos are captioned with who they are. That's Galadriel in armor, the young guy on the hillside is Elrond.
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Feb 10, 2022 14:45
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no beard on dwarven queen shows ruined
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Feb 10, 2022 14:47
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Tom Shippey was on staff and they fired him for giving an interview? drat
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Feb 10, 2022 14:52
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Dwarven Queen wants to talk to your manager.
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Feb 10, 2022 14:55
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Lmao black elf is gonna make so many of the worst people so angry
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Feb 10, 2022 14:59
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Lmao black elf is gonna make so many of the worst people so angry Even if the show sucks the weeping and gnashing of teeth in the comments will be grand entertainment.
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Feb 10, 2022 15:01
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Data Graham posted:Tom Shippey was on staff and they fired him for giving an interview? drat Whos that?
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Feb 10, 2022 15:07
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Hexel posted:no beard on dwarven queen What if there’s a scene of her shaving? With an axe?
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Feb 10, 2022 15:07
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Hexel posted:no beard on dwarven queen boooo Data Graham posted:That's a heck of an article Yeah, the article is terrific. The closing of the intro paragraph is  
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Feb 10, 2022 15:09
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Lmao black elf is gonna make so many of the worst people so angry It already is! You don’t even have to scroll more than a couple of tweets before there’s someone complaining about woke whatever
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Feb 10, 2022 15:14
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TipTow posted:boooo They gonna give Galadriel a human lover
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Feb 10, 2022 15:16
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Hexel posted:They gonna give Galadriel a human lover this woke nonsense has gone too far
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Feb 10, 2022 15:17
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SHISHKABOB posted:Whos that? He's like the preeminent Tolkien scholar alive, big Middle/Old English guy and author of The Road to Middle-earth. Basically Tolkien's academic successor.
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Feb 10, 2022 15:17
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Hexel posted:They gonna give Galadriel a human lover Yeah. As the rest of the article states they're definitely taking liberties with the "canon" or whatever, so if that's gonna be a bother to anyone they better either buckle in or just sit all this out.
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Feb 10, 2022 15:20
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"Elf-human romance" is kind of the go-to Tolkien revisionism trope, to the point where even Tolkien seemed like he was dipping into it a bit too much later in his career after having established it early on as like a one-time world-shattering all-bets-are-off-we-lay-down-the-guardianship-of-Arda thing. The bigger fundamental change the article points at is that they're compressing all the events of the Second Age so they're all happening at once, instead of over the course of like 2000 years. Which is kind of what we all always knew they'd have to do in any adaptation of the Silmarillion or the Appendices, it's just sort of the nature of a TV show.
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Feb 10, 2022 15:24
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they all look like characters from a lovely game of thrones videogame
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Feb 10, 2022 15:31
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Data Graham posted:The bigger fundamental change the article points at is that they're compressing all the events of the Second Age so they're all happening at once, instead of over the course of like 2000 years. Which is kind of what we all always knew they'd have to do in any adaptation of the Silmarillion or the Appendices, it's just sort of the nature of a TV show. That makes sense. As they mention in the article, a straight adaptation of the timeline would have you jumping ahead hundreds of years at a time, then having to introduce a whole new set of mortal characters. I guess the alternative way to do it is to keep to Tolkien's chronology, and tell the story from the human characters' perspectives. Have the events that the happened at the end of the 2nd age in order, but interspersed with flashbacks from the elven supporting cast. The way the show decided is probably more narratively satisfying, even if the implication of the show that nothing interesting happened outside the last hundred years of the 2nd age is silly.
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Feb 10, 2022 15:36
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euphronius posted:That’s Galadriel afaict This also explains why she was the one holding the dagger that represented the two trees, since she is the only character shown so far that has seen them.
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Feb 10, 2022 15:37
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Having immortal characters seems like a great way to sidestep the recasting issues. Even that bad Foundation show had one interesting innovation, which was that Lee Pace played the same guy who kept getting cloned over and over across centuries. But that only gets you so far.
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Feb 10, 2022 15:38
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Happy about that line saying they intend for the audience to be as young as 12ish, so we’re not getting any “play with her arse” Game of Thrones style horniness
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Feb 10, 2022 15:42
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Hexel posted:no beard on dwarven queen FIXED: 
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Feb 10, 2022 15:42
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I could see one or two time jumps, but that's never a good thing with a TV show. And frankly, Tolkien did not care anywhere near as much about the second age anyway, hence them putting the show there. Compressing the events will 100% lead to odd choices that anger Tolkien purists, so like, just assume some dumb poo poo will happen. Galadriel hanging out with a human is hardly a problem, and if she bangs him who cares, elves are allowed to be horny
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Feb 10, 2022 15:45
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adhuin posted:FIXED: much better
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Feb 10, 2022 15:46
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Data Graham posted:"Elf-human romance" is kind of the go-to Tolkien revisionism trope, to the point where even Tolkien seemed like he was dipping into it a bit too much later in his career after having established it early on as like a one-time world-shattering all-bets-are-off-we-lay-down-the-guardianship-of-Arda thing. isn't it literally just the one weirdo family?
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Feb 10, 2022 15:46
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When I first saw the photo of Durin I thought it was an old photo from the Hobbit movies.
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Feb 10, 2022 15:49
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*Oscer Special music*
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Feb 10, 2022 15:51
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Also continuing on from the costumes, while they could only be showing the "good" sets, those are actual sets, with actual poo poo in them, with good detail. That is a good sign. So far we have what looks to be people that give a poo poo doing the costumes and sets, and that indicates the director and production at least give enough of a poo poo to do that stuff right, and often that indicates into how they treat the actors and everything else. They might write a godawful plot that incenses me 5 minutes into the first episode, but it will look good at least doing it, which is more than the hobbit movies can say.
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Feb 10, 2022 15:58
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Thank godquote:So will there be Westerosi levels of violence and sex in Amazon's Middle-earth? In short, no. McKay says the goal was "to make a show for everyone, for kids who are 11, 12, and 13, even though sometimes they might have to pull the blanket up over their eyes if it's a little too scary. We talked about the tone in Tolkien's books. This is material that is sometimes scary—and sometimes very intense, sometimes quite political, sometimes quite sophisticated—but it's also heartwarming and life-affirming and optimistic. It's about friendship and it's about brotherhood and underdogs overcoming great darkness."
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Feb 10, 2022 16:05
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Also the human/elf romance is the sindarin elf and the healer woman, so i think we will be safe from Galadriel getting it on with a human, that seems to be more a way to have Galadriel explain things to the audience as he gets swept up in Galadriel poo poo. Galadriel owns and considering she unroofs WoodrowSkillson fucked around with this message at 16:15 on Feb 10, 2022 |
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Feb 10, 2022 16:08
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WoodrowSkillson posted:Also the human/elf romance is the sindarin elf and the healer woman, so i think we will be safe from Galadriel getting it on with a human, that seems to be more a way to have Galadriel explain things to the audience as he gets swept up in Galadriel poo poo. Dol Guldur. Cirith Ungol got wrecked by its own garrison when no real enemies were within 100 miles of it lol
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Feb 10, 2022 16:13
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Thank god I wouldn’t have been mad if there were a few tasteful sex scenes but yeah, a dude banging his twin sister doggy style while pushing children out of windows is an unnecessary amount of sex and violence.
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Feb 10, 2022 16:13
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skasion posted:Dol Guldur. Cirith Ungol got wrecked by its own garrison when no real enemies were within 100 miles of it lol Yeah I'm posting while working, I knew something did not sound right about that but just clicked post anyway
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Feb 10, 2022 16:14
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WoodrowSkillson posted:Yeah I'm posting while working, I knew something did not sound right about that but just clicked post anyway this is the only correct way of posting
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Feb 10, 2022 16:15
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I cant imagine being more worried about the event compression than I am about them having to write their own dialogue. All of the non Tolkien material that was written by Peter Jackson's flunkies was almost invariably horrific. I hope Sauron smashes his mace into someone's spine and then winks at the audience while talking about nervous systems
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Feb 10, 2022 16:18
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Muk Aran
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Feb 10, 2022 16:19
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Thank god Very worrying, tbh. I want impossibly-hunky androgynous shirtless elves hammering away in forges like Tumblr promised me. The amount of hunk that would terrify an 11 year old.
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Feb 10, 2022 16:22
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“Looks like Numenore is Numenomore.” *Sauron puts on sunglasses* YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAHHHHH
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Ginette Reno posted:I cant imagine being more worried about the event compression than I am about them having to write their own dialogue. All of the non Tolkien material that was written by Peter Jackson's flunkies was almost invariably horrific. Well luckily instead of being written by Philippe Boyens it’s written by…two random guys with no credits and an endorsement from JJ Abrams.
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