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cinci zoo sniper posted:the only personality test i have done was for a job at abn amro in amsterdam. swedes were waterboarding me with literal repeated classical iq tests you've probably interviewed a lot more than I have but I've only had one Swedish company that I can recall give me an iq test (Klarna). a different smaller company made me take a personality test tho, which was v lmao
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I interview for a Large Swedish Company and it was 7+ interviews of which 3 were handled by a group executive research firm and included iq tests, behavioral tests and, to top it off, a drug test. the job was hot garbage (which I suspected), but it cut my commute from hours to minutes and let me pivot into freelance contracting smoothly, so thanks, lovely employer, I guess?
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Feb 9, 2022 08:30
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Kernel Sanders posted:I interview for a Large Swedish Company and it was 7+ interviews of which 3 were handled by a group executive research firm and included iq tests, behavioral tests and, to top it off, a drug test. all is well that ends well
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Feb 9, 2022 08:38
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I had to do a personality test for my current job which basically painted me as a giant sperg. During the interviews I described that yes, my biggest improvement areas have been what the test pointed at and here's how I improved at them. And then during the first yearly evaluation my boss mentioned how surprised they were that I wasn't at all as spergy as the tests indicated... It's like they just ignored the whole part of the interviews where I described how I'd gotten better at things that don't come naturally to me. 
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Feb 9, 2022 08:50
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Just wanted to say: Interviewing is still and continues to be garbage. Here's an interesting one from the grey forums:Oakey posted:Interviewing is such a crapshoot. I had a former report interview for a position at my next job, and they just absolutely bombed the interview. I know they're a good engineer, our job together was one where I was a line manager and had time to review people's work and give feedback. I had to call and be like 'I know you're a better engineer than what that interview showed but I can't hire you based on this.' "yeah I know you can do your job well but I'm not gonna hire you even though I know you absolutely can do this job with no doubt in my mind"
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Feb 9, 2022 09:14
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I mean, if anyone else witnessed the interview, op is going have to convince a bunch of other people that “no, no, he just seems slow, but really he’s not”.
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Feb 9, 2022 09:26
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TheFluff posted:you've probably interviewed a lot more than I have but I've only had one Swedish company that I can recall give me an iq test (Klarna). a different smaller company made me take a personality test tho, which was v lmao klarna didn’t believe my iq test and had me redo a different iq test in a video call with hr supervisor
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Feb 9, 2022 09:44
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from what I hear klarna (in Stockholm) has amazon level bad culture. the ceo went out and said publicly “don’t come to us if you want work-life balance”, lol.
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Kernel Sanders posted:from what I hear klarna (in Stockholm) has amazon level bad culture. the ceo went out and said publicly “don’t come to us if you want work-life balance”, lol. lmao, at least they're clear about being a poo poo place to work
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champagne posting posted:Just wanted to say: Interviewing is still and continues to be garbage. Here's an interesting one from the grey forums: Convincing people in a large org to change their mind requires political capital. How much good will do you want to spend for someone who didn't make good choices? If there was ever a time someone needs to be their own advocate and exert their own agency, it is an interview. Plus, maybe he was a good employee BUT...[insert list of reasons why he could've gotten the job and performed with a good interview but was a borderline candidate otherwise: location, experience, salary, etc.] IME for each job req ~5% of applicants are strong candidates, maybe ~20% could possibly do the job based on resume and phone interview. CarForumPoster fucked around with this message at 14:03 on Feb 9, 2022 |
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Feb 9, 2022 14:00
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interviewing is garbage anecdote: about six months ago we were trying to hire a new architect. we ended up hiring one of the guys i gave a thumbs down too. turns out he’s a drat good architect!!
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Feb 9, 2022 14:59
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love coming up with answers to what i was asked during a screen while de-briefing with my wife minutes after i get off a call.
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PIZZA.BAT posted:interviewing is garbage anecdote: about six months ago we were trying to hire a new architect. we ended up hiring one of the guys i gave a thumbs down too. turns out he’s a drat good architect!! what made you say no?
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my homie dhall posted:what made you say no? i asked him about what emerging technologies he was excited about and keeping an eye on and he answered blockchain
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Feb 10, 2022 02:12
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that's when you press further, what about blockchain? describe the technical aspects that interest you, and how do you think this could help our company?
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DELETE CASCADE posted:that's when you press further, what about blockchain? describe the technical aspects that interest you, and how do you think this could help our company? yup i wanted to do this but someone else stepped in and by the time i could butt in again we were out of time Ż\_(ツ)_/Ż interviewing is garbage!
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PIZZA.BAT posted:yup i wanted to do this but someone else stepped in and by the time i could butt in again we were out of time maybe he just likes drugs
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Feb 10, 2022 19:39
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to be fair i don't blame you for rejecting him on that answer alone
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qhat posted:to be fair i don't blame you for rejecting him on that answer alone i do tho why would you reject someone for something unrelated to doing the work or working with them but my first hires were trash, interviewing takes experience and sounds like lesson learned for the Pizza Batch File
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Feb 10, 2022 23:57
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CarForumPoster posted:i do tho blockchains are nothing but grift and scams and I don't want someone who lacks the critical thinking skills to figure it out or someone who thinks that perpetrating it on people is a good idea
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Feb 11, 2022 00:00
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i am absolutely not ashamed at all to discriminate against anybody who thinks blockchain is a cool or useful idea
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Captain Foo posted:blockchains are nothing but grift and scams and I don't want someone who lacks the critical thinking skills to figure it out or someone who thinks that perpetrating it on people is a good idea What are you going to do, only hire devs with no blind spots?
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Captain Foo posted:blockchains are nothing but grift and scams and I don't want someone who lacks the critical thinking skills to figure it out or someone who thinks that perpetrating it on people is a good idea qhat posted:i am absolutely not ashamed at all to discriminate against anybody who thinks blockchain is a cool or useful idea I also do not care for or about ~the blockchain~ but it's probably best not to have arbitrary hiring requirements. I do care about that. If the job aint about blockchain, then its an arbitrary reason to pass on an otherwise qualified candidate. That the data you have is centered around fraud doesnt mean that person who likes it has the same data, so without the follow up questions its an even dumber reason to pass. Not directed at PIZZA.BAT tho because again, hiring is hard to get right repeatedly
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Feb 11, 2022 00:24
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CarForumPoster posted:I also do not care for or about ~the blockchain~ but it's probably best not to have arbitrary hiring requirements. I do care about that. If the job aint about blockchain, then its an arbitrary reason to pass on an otherwise qualified candidate. yeah no, crypto enthusiasts aren't getting hired.
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Feb 11, 2022 00:40
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CarForumPoster posted:i do tho since this is yospos I’m assuming they mean software architect and looking at “blockchain” and thinking “yes this is a good architecture “ is absolutely a giant red flag
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crypto enthusiasts need not apply
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MononcQc posted:drunk driving may kill a lot of people, but it also helps a lot of people figure out works sucks, so, it;s impossible to say if its bad or not,
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Feb 11, 2022 10:00
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I'd rather work with a nice enough crypto guy than someone with all the right opinions who is also an rear end in a top hat. imo you're nuts if you would turn down a good candidate just because they buy bitcoin or whatever in their off-time
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my homie dhall posted:I'd rather work with a nice enough crypto guy than someone with all the right opinions who is also an rear end in a top hat. imo you're nuts if you would turn down a good candidate just because they buy bitcoin or whatever in their off-time trappus sprungduntus
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my homie dhall posted:I'd rather work with a nice enough crypto guy than someone with all the right opinions who is also an rear end in a top hat. imo you're nuts if you would turn down a good candidate just because they buy bitcoin or whatever in their off-time would you rather work with a person who does bitcoin in their off time or loves elon and his mars plan?
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Feb 11, 2022 11:33
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whichever one manages to talk less about it during work hours
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Feb 11, 2022 11:43
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champagne posting posted:would you rather work with a person who does bitcoin in their off time or loves elon and his mars plan? the only non-work related thing I give a poo poo about is whether they can both name and rank, in correct order, every member of the beatles
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jesus WEP posted:whichever one manages to talk less about it during work hours it’s this
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never had an interview outside work hours myself, except for korean places where its work hours for them, so mr bitcoin architect fails by that measure
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Feb 11, 2022 12:23
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my homie dhall posted:the only non-work related thing I give a poo poo about is whether they can both name and rank, in correct order, every member of the beatles Ringo George George Paul Mal John
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champagne posting posted:would you rather work with a person who does bitcoin in their off time or loves elon and his mars plan? these are the same person though
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hobbesmaster posted:since this is yospos I’m assuming they mean software architect and looking at “blockchain” and thinking “yes this is a good architecture “ is absolutely a giant red flag exactly my thinking. i wanted to press more on what the specific requirements were because who knows- maybe they needed an append-only record and that’s what they were calling it because it would get buy in from their really stingy higher ups. there are justifications but your outs after mentioning blockchain become very very narrow anyways alls well that ends well. he hadn’t mentioned blockchain a single time since he started and so far has been extremely competent so 
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Feb 11, 2022 14:15
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maybe he just doesn't keep up with tech very much and panicked when they asked and said the first thing that came to mind
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one of the arguments for team diversity is that if you have a team filled with people who love blockchains they're going to suggest a blockchain as a solution to every problem. It stands to reason that the optimal number of blockchain-suggesting people on your team is somewhere between 0 and 1 because while academically interesting (distributed byzantine fault tolerance!) it is practically never the right thing to build.
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I have to admit that I'd have trouble answering an interview question about what emerging technologies I'm enthused about. I'm pretty skeptical about everything I can think of! fusion power would at least be beneficial to the species if it worked, I guess, and if that's an acceptable answer in a software interview
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