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Haha wow they already got rid of the weird pillow steering wheel, that was quick.
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The person taking that photo couldn't even bother to clean the tiny magnifying glass off the driver's seat.
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carry on then posted:Haha wow they already got rid of the weird pillow steering wheel, that was quick. If it follows the GV70's logic, if you get the 'sport' you get that steering wheel. If you dont get the sport, you get the weird puffy pillow one.
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bull3964 posted:Say what you will about the interior of the new Golf R, but there's no denying it's a much better driver.  e: quote:Recording a clean lap was a struggle, though. Your hands need to be at nine and three to reach the dual-clutch automatic's shift paddles, but that causes your palms to contact various spoke-mounted buttons, creating all manner of havoc. We'd leave the pits in the most aggressive chassis setting with the car in manual-shift mode and, halfway through a lap, find ourselves in a different mode with the steering-wheel heat on and the car shifting itself. In desperation, we shut off stability control, tapped the drive-mode selector into sport, and somehow put together a cohesive lap. If you're serious about tracking an R, get the six-speed manual or learn to drive with your hands at ten and two. Do that and the Golf R's sports-car soul will quickly overshadow any thoughts about its exterior design. got off on a technicality fucked around with this message at 01:44 on Feb 11, 2022 |
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Feb 11, 2022 01:32
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Hydraulic steering/manual transmission discussion has given way to buttons vs touchscreen. We are frogs in slowly boiling water.
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Feb 11, 2022 04:00
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It's not like anything in this world gets better as time passes.
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Feb 11, 2022 04:17
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Midjack posted:It's not like anything in this world gets better as time passes. Bleak. BRZ/86, ND2 Miata, you can still get a manual 9k rpm GT3, Boxster Spyder 4.0…
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Zoom Zoom, motherfuckers
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Literally the exceptions that prove the rule.
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Feb 11, 2022 05:28
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I have entirely lost interest in new cars after 2010 and am actively seeking out older cars with less lovely tech in them.\ Wireless Apple Carplay head unit retrofitted to something with proper switches and knobs for climate control is the most tech I will accept.
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Feb 11, 2022 05:40
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DanTheFryingPan posted:
Not sure if yours is the same as my slightly older CX5, but I initially thought this, but it turns out the doors just need to be unlocked.
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Feb 11, 2022 10:28
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Midjack posted:It's not like anything in this world gets better as time passes. yeah gently caress cars getting safer more reliable and more fuel efficient!!!!
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Feb 11, 2022 13:24
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:yeah gently caress cars getting safer more reliable and more fuel efficient!!!! I would argue making everything in a nested touchscreen menu is not safer
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Feb 11, 2022 13:57
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Koirhor posted:I would argue making everything in a nested touchscreen menu is not safer Your odds of dying in a car crash are about half what they were 40 years ago. Nested touchscreen menus suck from a ux perspective but they probably aren’t any more likely to cause accidents than people loving with their radio tuner or CD player did in the past. And they’re far less of a problem than phones, which everyone has on them at all times and are a constant source of distraction.
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Feb 11, 2022 14:14
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Laserface posted:I have entirely lost interest in new cars after 2010 and am actively seeking out older cars with less lovely tech in them.\ The fact that Porsche makes replacement head units for its older cars is so tempting, it's just a shame I've never liked the fried egg headlights.
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Feb 11, 2022 14:19
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Koirhor posted:I would argue making everything in a nested touchscreen menu is not safer you could argue that, but you would probably be wrong. All of the data basically points to hand held cell phone use being the cause of increases in distracted driving. Over the last decade or so there have been slight increases in accident rates and injury rates per million VMT.
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Feb 11, 2022 14:35
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:you could argue that, but you would probably be wrong. All of the data basically points to hand held cell phone use being the cause of increases in distracted driving. Over the last decade or so there have been slight increases in accident rates and injury rates per million VMT. How many drivers have hand help phones? All of them. How many drivers operate new cars with vehicle functions buried in a nested touchscreen interface? Hardly any compared to the number of cars on the road.
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Feb 11, 2022 17:07
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Laserface posted:Wireless Apple Carplay head unit retrofitted to something with proper switches and knobs for climate control is the most tech I will accept. I have good news about new Hondas
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Godzilla07 posted:I have good news about new Hondas the se corolla has a pretty sweet interior for luddites The electric ebrake is dumb. 
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Feb 11, 2022 17:58
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PBCrunch posted:How many drivers have hand help phones? All of them. There’s never been anything on the center console before this moment in history that could possibly distract a driver. Never.
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Feb 11, 2022 18:22
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I just want a dial/stick control like Mazda, BMW, and I think Mercedes have. Trying to stabilize your finger while reading and interfacing with a touchscreen in a car with "sporty" suspension is super annoying.
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Gangringo posted:I just want a dial/stick control like Mazda, BMW, and I think Mercedes have. The Mazda knob is very good. I realize how much I like it when I switch between my car ('15 Mazda6 w/ knob) and my wife's ('14 CX-5 w/o knob). I'm always sticking my hand in the cupholder going for the knob and buttons that don't exist. This happens about as often as me going for the clutch and stomping the foot rest instead.
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My wife and I both have Mazdas with the knob, and I’m not sure I could deal with having a touchscreen in a car again. I’m sure it’ll be hard to avoid forever, but god the knob just feels so much easier, safer and more comfortable for my liking.
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I want Grayhill's CANbus touch encoder to be used more. I'm already looking for way to retrofit it into my 2006 Mazda. https://www.touchencoder.com/ Edit: Not the new flush mount one obviously. The original rotary version. McTinkerson fucked around with this message at 21:52 on Feb 11, 2022 |
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YOLOsubmarine posted:There’s never been anything on the center console before this moment in history that could possibly distract a driver. Never. I've got a newish Audi with the knob controller and an old Miata with an aftermarket touchscreen receiver. The touchscreen isn't intrinsically more distracting, but looking where I'm touching and being careful not to touch something else requires much more concentration than just giving the right number of knob clicks before I press down. It is not a subtle difference.
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I like manual cars as much as anybody, but is anybody really asking for a "pseudo manual" transmission in an EV? https://www.thedrive.com/news/44261/toyota-has-a-patent-to-recreate-manual-transmissions-for-evs quote:Among the many things people fear the downturn of internal combustion will render a thing of the past is the manual transmission, and the engaging experience of shifting one's own gears. Toyota doesn't seem to believe that has to be the case, though, as it has patented mechanisms that'd let an electric vehicle simulate the operation of a manual down to the last gritty, gear-grinding detail.
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davecrazy posted:I like manual cars as much as anybody, but is anybody really asking for a "pseudo manual" transmission in an EV? Yes, me. Especially since EV conversions of manual cars will probably stay extremely niche and hard to do.
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davecrazy posted:I like manual cars as much as anybody, but is anybody really asking for a "pseudo manual" transmission in an EV? Absolutely, yea. No noise and no shifting sounds like a boring experience even if it's otherwise designed to be fun to drive.
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Zorak of Michigan posted:I've got a newish Audi with the knob controller and an old Miata with an aftermarket touchscreen receiver. The touchscreen isn't intrinsically more distracting, but looking where I'm touching and being careful not to touch something else requires much more concentration than just giving the right number of knob clicks before I press down. It is not a subtle difference. I had an Audi with MMI and now have a Mach-E and don’t really find either of them more distracting. Using a knob to navigate into submenus is more pleasant from a user interface perspective but it’s not any less distracting. Stuff like entering a navigation destination was terrible on MMI. Even things like changing the input for entertainment wasn’t as straightforward as it should be. And, of course, I’m old enough to remember the days where you had to manually search for radio stations and carried around a binder of CDs to swap out which definitely weren’t things you could do while keeping your full attention on the road. An ex of mine totaled her car because she looked down to find a piece of gum that she’d dropped. There’s plenty of ways that drivers can distract themselves and always have been. Commonly used functions while driving should be easily accessible without needing to manipulate a menu system but whether it’s a knob or wheel or touchscreen or whatever probably doesn’t make any real difference to accident rates.
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Feb 11, 2022 23:05
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hell fuckin fastforwarding a tape to get to the sikkest track
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no lube so what posted:The electric ebrake is dumb. Electric parking brakes are significantly cheaper for the manufacturer than hand brakes. Get used to them.
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davecrazy posted:I like manual cars as much as anybody, but is anybody really asking for a "pseudo manual" transmission in an EV? Yes please! Sign me the gently caress up!
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Asked the wrong thread that question hahaha. There was a Jeep concept conversion that had a 6 speed too, I think. It was pretty much pointless but I want to drive it regardless.
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The fake shifter better have bushings that go to poo poo and a tiny motor with an off axis weight to shake the knob
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I've occasionally wondered if a Magic Trackpad or some other bluetooth touchpad could work with a car infotainment.
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Yerok posted:The fake shifter better have bushings that go to poo poo and a tiny motor with an off axis weight to shake the knob I won't be satisfied unless it feels like stirring rocks on a morning below freezing, only to slowly loosen up.
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Saukkis posted:I've occasionally wondered if a Magic Trackpad or some other bluetooth touchpad could work with a car infotainment. I see you haven’t been in a late model Lexus It doesn’t work well at all
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Feb 12, 2022 03:30
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Someone plug a mouse into their car and see if it works.
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Saukkis posted:I've occasionally wondered if a Magic Trackpad or some other bluetooth touchpad could work with a car infotainment. Try using the touchpad on a laptop while a car is in motion.
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Isn't the top of the BMW idrive control puck a touchpad?
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taqueso posted:Isn't the top of the BMW idrive control puck a touchpad? Yes, but not to navigate through the infotainment. It’s just for the gimmicky hand writing of letters when you’re trying to set a destination on the nav.
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