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nielsm: Jun 1, 2009

Yeah I re-enabled HTTP3 and it keeps working. It's the telemetry servers that cause it to break.

Which means that a third party server could possibly also trigger the same bug in Firefox, just by having the user visit a specific URL.

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# ? May 15, 2024 22:43

Nalin: Sep 29, 2007; Hair Elf

I'm just going to keep HTTP3 off since who knows what other servers I'll run into that might trigger it.

# ? Jan 13, 2022 10:21

Malloc Voidstar: May 7, 2007; Fuck the cowboys. Unf. Fuck em hard.

Mozilla turned off HTTP3 on the telemetry servers, so disabling telemetry but keeping HTTP3 enabled will not prevent this bug

# ? Jan 13, 2022 11:34

WhiteHowler: Apr 3, 2001; I'M HUGE!

I have no idea how this would even happen, but as soon as I updated to the newest Firefox version, a bunch of my sites started displaying in "dark theme" on sites that support it, including Google and Twitch.

When I access the same sites with Chrome, they're in the normal default white theme.

I don't even see a setting for this in Firefox's settings. I want to love you, Firefox, so why do you keep doing this kind of poo poo?

# ? Jan 13, 2022 20:37

astral: Apr 26, 2004

Are Firefox or Windows is running a dark theme? That's how many sites like to implement dark mode.

# ? Jan 13, 2022 20:42

Knormal: Nov 11, 2001

Apparently it's something the sites are doing:
https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/96.0/releasenotes/

quote:

Added CSS color-scheme support to allow web pages to indicate which color schemes they can be rendered with (for example, operating system dark mode).

And this is the key to change it:
https://support.cdn.mozilla.net/gl/questions/1360640

# ? Jan 13, 2022 20:45

The Merkinman: Apr 22, 2007; I sell only quality merkins. What is a merkin you ask? Why, it's a wig for your genitals!

WhiteHowler posted:

I have no idea how this would even happen, but as soon as I updated to the newest Firefox version, a bunch of my sites started displaying in "dark theme" on sites that support it, including Google and Twitch.

When I access the same sites with Chrome, they're in the normal default white theme.

I don't even see a setting for this in Firefox's settings. I want to love you, Firefox, so why do you keep doing this kind of poo poo?

What site(s)? Do any dark mode sites work in Chrome? Why not?

Firefox did make a change with dark and light mode.

# ? Jan 13, 2022 20:45

WhiteHowler: Apr 3, 2001; I'M HUGE!

The Merkinman posted:

What site(s)? Do any dark mode sites work in Chrome? Why not?

Firefox did make a change with dark and light mode.

All of my sites displayed in light mode until the newest Firefox update installed this morning. Now they display in light mode in Chrome and dark mode in Firefox. So it's definitely a Firefox thing.

If I manually change Google (for example) to dark mode while using Chrome, then it does display in dark mode in Chrome.

It's just a really weird change to suddenly make.

Knormal posted:

Apparently it's something the sites are doing:
https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/96.0/releasenotes/

And this is the key to change it:
https://support.cdn.mozilla.net/gl/questions/1360640

Thanks. On one hand I like that Firefox's settings pages are kept fairly clean, but having to go into about :whatever to change things can be cryptic.

# ? Jan 13, 2022 20:56

Knormal: Nov 11, 2001

Here's their official bug tracker for last night's issue, where it seems like they really don't have any idea what happened either.
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1749908

# ? Jan 14, 2022 02:31

Buck Turgidson: Feb 6, 2011; 𓀬𓀠𓀟𓀡𓀢𓀣𓀤𓀥𓀞𓀬

Soooo... is there a way to put borders on inactive tabs with the proton ui?

# ? Jan 14, 2022 03:42

~Coxy: Dec 9, 2003; R.I.P. Inter-OS Sass - b.2000AD d.2003AD

Buck Turgidson posted:

Soooo... is there a way to put borders on inactive tabs with the proton ui?

Here's my tabs:

If this is good enough for ya I'll dig out my userchrome.

# ? Jan 14, 2022 04:02

Malloc Voidstar: May 7, 2007; Fuck the cowboys. Unf. Fuck em hard.

Knormal posted:

Here's their official bug tracker for last night's issue, where it seems like they really don't have any idea what happened either.
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1749908

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1749957

# ? Jan 14, 2022 06:52

Buck Turgidson: Feb 6, 2011; 𓀬𓀠𓀟𓀡𓀢𓀣𓀤𓀥𓀞𓀬

~Coxy posted:

Here's my tabs:

If this is good enough for ya I'll dig out my userchrome.

That'll do.

# ? Jan 14, 2022 08:46

~Coxy: Dec 9, 2003; R.I.P. Inter-OS Sass - b.2000AD d.2003AD

Hmm, I didn't realise my userchrome was so big.

I think the relevant section is lines 136-338

https://pastebin.com/vYPuV70w

# ? Jan 14, 2022 09:03

Blue Footed Booby: Oct 4, 2006; got those happy feet

As of today, I'm having random sites not work in firefox. They work fine in other browsers, but in firefox I just get a blank page that says "blocked."

It still happens even if I start firefox without extensions. My last step before ~~committing honorable sudoku~~ creating a new profile is asking if one of you have any idea wtf.

# ? Jan 14, 2022 20:09

Nalin: Sep 29, 2007; Hair Elf

https://www.reddit.com/r/firefox/comments/s3zn2p/is_reddit_broken_on_firefox/

Reddit seems to be sending out 403 Forbidden messages. Works for me, though, so maybe they fixed it already?

EDIT: It might have been an intermittent Cloudflare problem?

Nalin fucked around with this message at 20:26 on Jan 14, 2022

# ? Jan 14, 2022 20:19

Qtotonibudinibudet: Nov 7, 2011; Omich poluyobok, skazhi ty narkoman? ya prosto tozhe gde to tam zhivu, mogli by vmeste uyobyvat' narkotiki

reddit hasn't used cloudflare since like 2017. it's either reddit themselves or fastly that hosed it

i blame reddit's cdn admin deploying some new poo poo that didn't quite work right and "oh fuk"ing as their traffic subsequently dropped 30%

# ? Jan 14, 2022 20:32

Blue Footed Booby: Oct 4, 2006; got those happy feet

CMYK BLYAT! posted:

reddit hasn't used cloudflare since like 2017. it's either reddit themselves or fastly that hosed it

i blame reddit's cdn admin deploying some new poo poo that didn't quite work right and "oh fuk"ing as their traffic subsequently dropped 30%

Y'know, I thought it happened to a couple other sites but I may have confused myself because it looks to be just reddit. Mystery solved...ish??

# ? Jan 14, 2022 20:43

Qtotonibudinibudet: Nov 7, 2011; Omich poluyobok, skazhi ty narkoman? ya prosto tozhe gde to tam zhivu, mogli by vmeste uyobyvat' narkotiki

yeah, someone did a botched job writing a bad browser signature: https://www.reddit.com/r/help/comments/s4095g/resolved_blocked_error_when_accessing_redditcom/hso4zl2/

# ? Jan 14, 2022 23:03

busalover: Sep 12, 2020

I switched to the yospos amber-colored tabs a while ago, but now I changed themes and that's gone. How do I get that back? Was it a theme?

e: found it, it's just a theme called "cheers"

busalover fucked around with this message at 14:24 on Jan 27, 2022

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# ? Feb 3, 2022 13:43

Computer viking: May 30, 2011; Now with less breakage.

That sounds ... reasonable? It's a niche problem, but one very few companies are in a position to handle. Of course, if the participants are limited to firefox users there may be some problems with trying to generalise your findings to all web users.

# ? Feb 3, 2022 19:37

Sab669: Sep 24, 2009

This thread helped me out with this problem before, but I can't remember what the solution was-

Essentially, I've got a brand new Windows install, therefore a new Firefox/user and my address bar's autocomplete doesn't work the way I've been used to for years and years. For example, "gm" would autocomplete with Gmail.com and I could just hit enter. Now firefox merely "Suggests" gmail.com and I have down Down Arrow + Enter to navigate. I think this is because the URL changes once I hit enter to https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/

I know it's a really minor complaint, but after like 15 years of "gm+Enter" being gmail, it's very jarring having to add in the down arrow. I can't think of any other examples off the top of my head, but there's a bunch of other sites that have had the URL change over the years that's also loving with this muscle memory

edit; My old personal hard drive died so I can't just like, log in there and grab any user profile files either

# ? Feb 4, 2022 15:41

BlankSystemDaemon: Mar 13, 2009

Sab669 posted:

This thread helped me out with this problem before, but I can't remember what the solution was-

Essentially, I've got a brand new Windows install, therefore a new Firefox/user and my address bar's autocomplete doesn't work the way I've been used to for years and years. For example, "gm" would autocomplete with Gmail.com and I could just hit enter. Now firefox merely "Suggests" gmail.com and I have down Down Arrow + Enter to navigate. I think this is because the URL changes once I hit enter to https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/

I know it's a really minor complaint, but after like 15 years of "gm+Enter" being gmail, it's very jarring having to add in the down arrow. I can't think of any other examples off the top of my head, but there's a bunch of other sites that have had the URL change over the years that's also loving with this muscle memory

edit; My old personal hard drive died so I can't just like, log in there and grab any user profile files either

Here's the ones that my about :support page claims I've modified, in an effort to make sure I don't get any suggestions:
browser.search.suggest.enabled
browser.urlbar.quicksuggest.scenario
browser.urlbar.suggest.engines
browser.urlbar.suggest.openpage
browser.urlbar.suggest.searches
browser.urlbar.suggest.topsites
browser.urlbar.timesBeforeHidingSuggestionsHint

It's probably one or more of those.

# ? Feb 4, 2022 16:19

Geemer: Nov 4, 2010

I'm pretty sure the Firefox Suggest thing is browser.urlbar.groupLabels.enabled.

# ? Feb 4, 2022 17:19

RPATDO_LAMD: Mar 22, 2013; 🐘🪠🍆

Sab669 posted:

This thread helped me out with this problem before, but I can't remember what the solution was-

Essentially, I've got a brand new Windows install, therefore a new Firefox/user and my address bar's autocomplete doesn't work the way I've been used to for years and years. For example, "gm" would autocomplete with Gmail.com and I could just hit enter. Now firefox merely "Suggests" gmail.com and I have down Down Arrow + Enter to navigate. I think this is because the URL changes once I hit enter to https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/

I know it's a really minor complaint, but after like 15 years of "gm+Enter" being gmail, it's very jarring having to add in the down arrow. I can't think of any other examples off the top of my head, but there's a bunch of other sites that have had the URL change over the years that's also loving with this muscle memory

edit; My old personal hard drive died so I can't just like, log in there and grab any user profile files either

You can set it up on a case-by-case basis by filling in the "keyword" section for a bookmark in the bookmarks menu:

This won't restore the default behavior for all sites though, you probably have to mess with those about :config settings for that

although I can still e.g. type "f->enter" and get "forums.somethingawful.com" and I have most of those flags at default -- only quicksuggest.scenario and timesBeforeHidingSuggestionsHint are changed

RPATDO_LAMD fucked around with this message at 21:22 on Feb 4, 2022

# ? Feb 4, 2022 21:16

Sab669: Sep 24, 2009

BlankSystemDaemon posted:

Here's the ones that my about :support page claims I've modified, in an effort to make sure I don't get any suggestions:
browser.search.suggest.enabled
browser.urlbar.quicksuggest.scenario
browser.urlbar.suggest.engines
browser.urlbar.suggest.openpage
browser.urlbar.suggest.searches
browser.urlbar.suggest.topsites
browser.urlbar.timesBeforeHidingSuggestionsHint

It's probably one or more of those.

Doesn't seem to be any of 'em

Geemer posted:

I'm pretty sure the Firefox Suggest thing is browser.urlbar.groupLabels.enabled.

This removes the "Firefox Suggests" delineation, but it still doesn't actually autocomplete

The boommark idea doesn't seem to do anything, either?^

edit; I like Firefox but the address bar really pisses me off lol. Similar complaint with "f" will autocomplete forums.somethingawful.com, but I always have to DownArrow+Enter for https://forums.somethingawful.com/usercp.php, because I always just want to go to my control panel with my bookmarked threads. Never ever have I meant to go to the forums index.

# ? Feb 4, 2022 21:23

Klyith: Aug 3, 2007; GBS Pledge Week

Sab669 posted:

edit; I like Firefox but the address bar really pisses me off lol. Similar complaint with "f" will autocomplete forums.somethingawful.com, but I always have to DownArrow+Enter for https://forums.somethingawful.com/usercp.php, because I always just want to go to my control panel with my bookmarked threads. Never ever have I meant to go to the forums index.

Aha, yeah this is a not-changeable thing. Autofill only does domains, it will never fill a path after the hostname. Dunno if it's a technical limitation or a security thing.

Sab669 posted:

The boommark idea doesn't seem to do anything, either?^

Look to make sure you did keyword rather than tags -- it doesn't show the keyword field in the normal bookmarking dialog, only with right-click -> edit or the bookmark manager.

# ? Feb 4, 2022 23:36

Sab669: Sep 24, 2009

It's just a technical decision. Chrome autocompletes all that poo poo great.

# ? Feb 5, 2022 00:27

Megillah Gorilla: Sep 22, 2003; If only all of life's problems could be solved by smoking a professor of ancient evil texts.; Bread Liar

Sab669 posted:

This thread helped me out with this problem before, but I can't remember what the solution was

If you click the "?" under your username in your post, it will bring up every one of your posts in this thread. Quickly hunting down your original post on the subject might be the easiest way to find the solution.

# ? Feb 5, 2022 04:50

BlankSystemDaemon: Mar 13, 2009

There's also a per-thread search up next to the bookmark star in the top bar.

# ? Feb 5, 2022 10:21

Megillah Gorilla: Sep 22, 2003; If only all of life's problems could be solved by smoking a professor of ancient evil texts.; Bread Liar

If you use ViolentMonkey or similar, you can use a script like this specifically to search for you own posts in a thread

Just change the "var userid = " to your own userid, of course.

quote:

// ==UserScript==
// @name Something Awful - Check Out All My Own Posts in a Thread
// @namespace com.sa
// @include *forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php*
// @version 1.1
// @grant none
// ==/UserScript==

var userid = 42386

var tid = window.location.toString().match(/threadid=(\d+)/)[1];

var link = '<a href="showthread.php?threadid=' + tid + '&userid=' + userid +'">Check Out All My lovely Posts</a>';

var topButtons = document.querySelector('div.top ul.postbuttons li:nth-child(2)');
topButtons.insertAdjacentHTML('beforebegin', link);

var bottomButtons = document.querySelector('div.bottom ul.postbuttons li:nth-child(1)');
bottomButtons.insertAdjacentHTML('beforebegin', link);

# ? Feb 5, 2022 10:32

Inceltown: Aug 6, 2019

Just use the search box and username:name if you don't have a handy post

# ? Feb 5, 2022 11:15

Sab669: Sep 24, 2009

xtal posted:

Bit of a hack but I bet you could make a bookmark that autocompletes the way you want, as long as you have bookmark completion enabled.

Thanks again a year later lol. Needed to edit the URL for the Bookmark, rather than screwing around with tags/keywords

# ? Feb 5, 2022 14:17

Freakazoid_: Jul 5, 2013; Buglord

Is it normal for firefox to selectively delete entries in my history?

I was looking for a site I was at a few days ago and found it where I expected it, but while browsing history I noticed for some reason all the entries of when I past visited wordle was gone. Only the most recent visit today is on the list.

# ? Feb 10, 2022 22:28

Hargrimm: Sep 22, 2011; W A R R E N

Firefox never stores duplicate history entries for multiple visits to the exact same URL. The "places" database which drives history has one row for each unique URL, and if you visit it again it just increments the visit counter by 1, it doesn't create a separate row. Wordle is the same site and URL every time so it won't appear multiple times in the history. It's less an exact audit log of every site you visit in perfect order and more an aggregation of all the sites you've visited, ordered by the recency of your latest visit. Otherwise there would be heaps of duplicate entries for every time you refreshed your Twitter feed or whatever.

# ? Feb 11, 2022 03:36

WattsvilleBlues: Jan 25, 2005; Every demon wants his pound of flesh

I remember when Places was meant to launch in Firefox 2 and it was delayed 18 months to Firefox 3. It was a really cool feature. Pity we shall never see those days again, with exciting releases with months of buildup. Still, rapid release is better overall.

Edit:
https://www.xda-developers.com/mozilla-meta-interoperable-private-attribution/

Mozilla and Meta (Facebook) are working together on a new proposal for ad interaction tracking

WattsvilleBlues fucked around with this message at 19:47 on Feb 12, 2022

# ? Feb 11, 2022 09:42

BlankSystemDaemon: Mar 13, 2009

↑ I don't think anyone noticed your day-late edit, so here's a bump for the thread.

Mozilla and Meta (Facebook) are now actually working together:

quote:

Mozilla, owner and developer of the Firefox browser, has attacked Facebook (now Meta) many times over the years for the company�s disastrous record on privacy and security. However, the two companies are now working together on a proposal for slightly more private online advertising, which is already drawing criticism from long-time fans of Mozilla.

Mozilla revealed in a blog post on Tuesday, �For the last few months we have been working with a team from Meta (formerly Facebook) on a new proposal that aims to enable conversion measurement � or attribution � for advertising called Interoperable Private Attribution, or IPA.� The project aims to allow advertisers to measure the success rate of online ads, while being more privacy-respecting than existing online ads.

The core concept, as explained in the proposal draft, is to replace per-action ad reporting (e.g. the browser sending data to an advertising group when you click on an ad) with aggregated reports for batches of events. Websites can create a �match key� connected to your account or device, which is apparently only accessible by the browser to avoid fingerprinting. There are also a few functions in place intended to make it difficult for anyone (including the companies or advertisers collecting data) to identify people interacting with ads. It�s similar to Prio, the technology Mozilla developed a few years ago to analyze how people use Firefox.
[snip]

BlankSystemDaemon fucked around with this message at 20:11 on Feb 12, 2022

# ? Feb 12, 2022 20:06

Klyith: Aug 3, 2007; GBS Pledge Week

Conversion is an event where you inherently lose your anonymity. You click an ad and then you buy poo poo = the company you're buying poo poo from knows your name. So if this thing means the company now won't know exactly which ad I clicked before buying poo poo, that counts as an improvement I suppose.

IDGI though, I don't think this solves anything for anybody. It looks like this is mostly a Facebook thing rather than a Mozilla thing, and I don't get what Facebook gets out of it.

# ? Feb 12, 2022 21:32

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# ? May 15, 2024 22:43

WattsvilleBlues: Jan 25, 2005; Every demon wants his pound of flesh

Aside from the fact I use uBlock Origin on any browser because I'm not a loving animal, I don't think I've ever deliberately clicked on an ad. In my recent mucking around with Linux distros, for the craic I sometimes go to random sites before I install UO and some of them are absolutely unusable.

Great example is http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/index.html - it's a British tabloid piece of poo poo that I sometimes take a look at for the hyperbole, and without a content blocker it is absolutely horrifying.

What are ads like these days for the accuracy of serving up stuff one might actually be interested in?

# ? Feb 12, 2022 21:56

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