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Rusty posted:I was dumb and somehow one of my class engraving points went to the wrong one, so I am exactly one point short. Is there any way to get one more book easily? Also the server I am on seems to be having issues. I keep getting endless loading screens and I saw like 100 people stuck on a triport.
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deep dish peat moss posted:Lots of stuff that exists in a cash shop Just to be clear, the cash shop exists and has items in it. I haven't refuted that. What I'm specifically requesting that you do, since you really seem to want to prove how you aren't wrong about Lost Ark in particular, is to show me how to convert that cash to in-game advantages at a rate that isn't truly insane. Addicts exist, but typically they're addicted because you can actually afford to be addicted -- the average addict isn't rocking a coke pinky. You'd max out an average US credit score's available lines to barely or not progress at all, because they've specifically limited how much you can progress with money in Lost Ark. The link disclosure includes: The card system, that doesn't matter and doesn't advance you in the game. The amethyst gem (rapport) system, that doesn't matter and doesn't advance you in the game. You can buy chests that give you blue gems from the crystalline ones, but then show me spending the blue ones for immediate and significant progress. Do you see the pattern? You're linking a bunch of junk you could spend money on that doesn't convert to progress. I'm telling you that you can't go in and spend 100 dollars to make any meaningful progress in Lost Ark right now. You're linking me page after page of stuff you didn't even bother to look at what it converts to. I can spend 100 dollars on WoW tokens, a game you subscribe to, and buy legal server-based boosts (notice I'm not including communities) to jump to the top 10% of the game. I can straight up buy whole godrolls and characters on any given gacha for a hundred bucks. IRE Muds used to sell literal 35% damage over regular weapons, that's some real pay to win. You can autoloot without the crystal aura, again, read the interface I guess? I don't understand why you're rushing out to prove that you're wrong about stuff. All the "convenience" poo poo on the pet is tied to crystal aura like "remote repair" which is literally "click any teleport anywhere and click the smith icon" levels of inconvenient. Take the L, admit SmileGate/AGS actually did a good job of unfucking the game. They're still gonna make money, the cash shop will exist. It's infinitely less predatory than you're making it out to be. People are still mad they got bilked on New World and it was a one time box fee with a horrible time sink, but hey, at least you can't buy a useless random card pack?
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Got to level 50 tonight. Chaos dungeons are extremely fun!
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Sintor posted:Just to be clear, the cash shop exists and has items in it. I haven't refuted that. What I'm specifically requesting that you do, since you really seem to want to prove how you aren't wrong about Lost Ark in particular, is to show me how to convert that cash to in-game advantages at a rate that isn't truly insane. Addicts exist, but typically they're addicted because you can actually afford to be addicted -- the average addict isn't rocking a coke pinky. You'd max out an average US credit score's available lines to barely or not progress at all, because they've specifically limited how much you can progress with money in Lost Ark. Look at least it's not meth!
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I should probably change my keybinds. For some reason, I really hate the default ability keybinds. They just feel awkward to me. Also, the lack of contextual clicking sucks rear end.
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Sharpshooter is horrible and no one should play it so my engravings and stuff stay cheap.
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Sintor posted:IRE Muds used to sell literal 35% damage over regular weapons, that's some real pay to win. Why'd you have to remind me of the artifacts I bought in Achaea way back in 2004?
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A goon mentioned it awhile back, but I just saw my female character walking through the church at a leisurely pace. LOL spines don't work that way!
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Buying anything thats not a cosmetic from the game story is a waste. Right now its difficult to see since the game is starting out but its going to turn into a BDO like experience where turbo whales with way more money than sense spend money for tiny gains and supply an endless horde of cosmetics/cash shop crystals for people with more time than money. Everyone wins except the grognards that take umbrage on someone using money to help get a higher GS than you for a few months before the games catch up systems make the gains meaningless
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FFXIV Porn posted:also i'm 21 hours in and i'm 41 and just unlocked the boat. i can't imagine being able to hit 50 in ten hours, that's nuts. 10 hours is the speed-run time to 50, which means people who've already unlocked a ton of roster bonuses, can skip all cutscenes, etc etc.
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ninjoatse.cx posted:A goon mentioned it awhile back, but I just saw my female character walking through the church at a leisurely pace. LOL spines don't work that way! Reminds me of the female Blood Elf stealth animation in WoW. When I first saw it I was like "How does she not have serious lower back/spine issues?"
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i made the genius brain move of playing mobile games during the pandemic so i can now laugh off mmo-tier attempts to worm my brain. i get the mechanisms at play here but they're so much less aggressive than some other poo poo i've seen. like you say, though, it'll be interesting to see how this shakes out a few months in once ppl are hitting walls in the post-50 grind.
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Mordiceius posted:I should probably change my keybinds. For some reason, I really hate the default ability keybinds. They just feel awkward to me. Also, the lack of contextual clicking sucks rear end. As someone else pointed out, the lack of contextual clicking is probably on purpose because the game has raids with precise movement requirements. It'd suck a lot to try to move out of an AoE but end up sitting in place and attacking instead because you accidentally clicked an add instead of the ground. Also basic attacks do basically no damage so you won't be using them much at high levels anyway. Harrow fucked around with this message at 03:32 on Feb 13, 2022 |
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ninjoatse.cx posted:A goon mentioned it awhile back, but I just saw my female character walking through the church at a leisurely pace. LOL spines don't work that way! Gotta do that Voldo Soul Calibur walk.
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Cao Ni Ma posted:Buying anything thats not a cosmetic from the game story is a waste. Right now its difficult to see since the game is starting out but its going to turn into a BDO like experience where turbo whales with way more money than sense spend money for tiny gains and supply an endless horde of cosmetics/cash shop crystals for people with more time than money. Everyone wins except the grognards that take umbrage on someone using money to help get a higher GS than you for a few months before the games catch up systems make the gains meaningless Whales can't always afford it. Even if they can it's still lovely and exploitative but yeah sure "everyone wins" and the game is totally not shittier to get people to spend cash/time.
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Gishin posted:Why'd you have to remind me of the artifacts I bought in Achaea way back in 2004? My artifact escrow on Achaea and Lusternia is uh... somethin shame inducing. On another fun note, abyss dungeons are wild in LA -- the second tab of tier 1 has been a slaughterhouse in pugs so far.
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Any way to make this game more fun? So far it's been incredibly boring with no challenge. Currently level 12
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Kaysette posted:i made the genius brain move of playing mobile games during the pandemic so i can now laugh off mmo-tier attempts to worm my brain. i get the mechanisms at play here but they're so much less aggressive than some other poo poo i've seen. like you say, though, it'll be interesting to see how this shakes out a few months in once ppl are hitting walls in the post-50 grind. I suspect it's not going to matter much in pre forms or tight knit guilds - based on the end game encounters I've watched, they're so execution heavy that no 0.5% benefit is going to save your rear end if you can't play On the flip side, the pseudo endless progression at the high end is going to make pugs absolutely insanely catastrophically awful and toxic. "You have 0.5% less than optimal config? lol gtfo fukken noob" I have very mixed feelings personally, I actively dislike gacha games, but lost ark isn't exactly that. I actively dislike endless grind kmmos, but lost ark isn't exactly that either. Honestly I think it'll just come down to how fun end game activities are with friends or goons. If the daily routine is doing some fun encounters with people on the regular, it'll have legs. If it's mindlessly grinding repetitive no fail tasks to make miniscule power progress to mindlessly clear already no fail content? yeah no not sticking around for that Basically I fear this game will be BDO but I hope it will be somewhere between Monster Hunter and Diablo 3 and mmo raids with some harmless grind thrown in ignoring all that who the gently caress okayed this localization
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Charles 1998 posted:Any way to make this game more fun? So far it's been incredibly boring with no challenge. Currently level 12 It's easy because you are still in the tutorial
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Charles 1998 posted:Any way to make this game more fun? So far it's been incredibly boring with no challenge. Currently level 12 The difficulty is pretty trivial during leveling with a couple bosses that are minor roadbumps, unfortunately. It gets way more interesting afterwards.
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CuddleCryptid posted:It's easy because you are still in the tutorial The Shortest Path posted:The difficulty is pretty trivial during leveling with a couple bosses that are minor roadbumps, unfortunately. It gets way more interesting afterwards. Ugh, why is every MMO that isn't WoW Classic afraid of killing their players at early levels? Especially when there's no penalty for dying.
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Charles 1998 posted:Ugh, why is every MMO that isn't WoW Classic afraid of killing their players at early levels? Especially when there's no penalty for dying. Most gamers are weak and easily upset by the most petty poo poo.
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idk who said soulfist kills poo poo slow but they must have been playing bad. soulfist owns
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I picked up this bad boy at the garden shop tonight and I should be able to get my roster level to max when I figure out how to add it to my inventory. 
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FFXIV Porn posted:idk who said soulfist kills poo poo slow but they must have been playing bad. soulfist owns 
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Orange DeviI posted:why don't the guys get high heels and hip swaying This. I refuse to pay Gunlancer until I can turn them into a himbo.
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Finally hit level 40! I haven’t even gotten a boat yet because I’ve been picking up every single quest I come across. At this rate I’m gonna be 60 by the time I finish the story. I don’t know why I did this to myself, but now that I’ve started I can’t stop 
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Sindai posted:My super saiyan 3 spirit bomb crit a guardian for 300k, which I would have known was about a quarter of its health if their health bar was visible. i'm goku.
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Summoner was the primary class I was pretty interested in playing, and I was bummed to find out it isn't included. Is there any general gut feeling on when it'll be put in? A month or two from now?
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Sintor posted:Just to be clear, the cash shop exists and has items in it. I haven't refuted that. What I'm specifically requesting that you do, since you really seem to want to prove how you aren't wrong about Lost Ark in particular, is to show me how to convert that cash to in-game advantages at a rate that isn't truly insane. Addicts exist, but typically they're addicted because you can actually afford to be addicted -- the average addict isn't rocking a coke pinky. You'd max out an average US credit score's available lines to barely or not progress at all, because they've specifically limited how much you can progress with money in Lost Ark. I'm not sure what L I'm supposed to be taking - I said that I don't like F2P/mobile game monetization schemes and this game has one which is one of several reasons I haven't had fun playing it (I also posted about the other reasons). Then you posted a long rant defending the game and its monetization practices and asked what items in the cash shop whales would whale out on. I posted screenshots of the items in the cash shop that whales would whale out on and then you posted another long rant saying "well yes of course there are items whales would whale out on" and defending the game and its monetization practices, saying they're not that bad. What was the competition that I lost? Are you projecting? Are you a... *gulp*... a f2p cash shop addict yourself, rationalizing your decisions? No, you're probably not, but in what world is defending scummy business practices to this length a cool thing to do, lmao Just because you don't feel (and/or claim to not feel) like the cash shop preys on you personally does not mean it's not predatory. F2P game cash shops are designed to be predatory by their very nature, and I've made a few posts that you've quoted explaining why that you didn't read. deep dish peat moss fucked around with this message at 06:42 on Feb 13, 2022 |
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Level 32 Bard now and it's starting to come together with the upgraded beam ability, that thing melts bosses which is precisely what I was missing before. I've really been enjoying making aoe death traps with the power of music though. The questing is mindless but I'll be damned if I'm not having a blast doing it.
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I feel like this thread is probably gonna need to have a rule against arguing about monetization like the Halo Infinite thread did
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The Shortest Path posted:I feel like this thread is probably gonna need to have a rule against arguing about monetization like the Halo Infinite thread did we should all just agree it is bad and move on
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Third World Reagan posted:we should all just agree it is bad and move on Yeah sure
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Nephrite posted:Summoner was the primary class I was pretty interested in playing, and I was bummed to find out it isn't included. Is there any general gut feeling on when it'll be put in? A month or two from now? The two things I've seen says that either they want to get us the missing classes one at a time every 2-3 months, or they want to get us all the missing class within 2-3 months. I'd expect, in either case, that summoner would be one of the first classes added, but who knows otherwise. Charles 1998 posted:Ugh, why is every MMO that isn't WoW Classic afraid of killing their players at early levels? Especially when there's no penalty for dying. Levelling is something everyone has to do so everyone has to be able to do it. Especially in F2P MMOs, where a lot of people who might see 'free' would be turned off by early difficulty.
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“This MMO should be more like Classic WoW” is never a statement that should be uttered.
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Charles 1998 posted:Ugh, why is every MMO that isn't WoW Classic afraid of killing their players at early levels? Especially when there's no penalty for dying. The first world boss killed me like 5 times
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I kinda agree with some of this. The difficulty is set way way low. I'm not expecting anything hardcore, but when you agro a group of creatures you should be concerned. Instead, it's a slaughter. If they redid creatures to have the baseline stats of the rare glowy monsters then i'd be pretty happy. What do the raids consist of? 100 people all fighting a boss? Is that a challenge?
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