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Xenomrph posted:I had no idea he’d sold his channel. I didn't know until there was a plagiarism issue with one of his videos and it was explained someone else writes the scripts so it wasn't on James. I was under the impression it was all him and whichever friends were still around until then (though I haven't watched in ages).
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Rupert Buttermilk posted:More GB1 clips: These are incredible. It's weird how the line "we have the tools, we have the talent" is a call-back to a line that was deleted, even weirder that Ghostbusters II also contains a call back to this deleted scene, the "the ONLY Ghostbusters". The second clip is awesome. Just little things, like seeing the reverse shot of the Cabbie's hand, the way it has a more serious, scary tone without the Magic song. The use of the "castle thunder" sound effect from Frankenstein 31 which in the finished film is used for the Terror Dog birth sequence. Also a whole dope motorcycle stunt that was cut!? I hope the scene of Louis confronting the muggers is released. Karloff fucked around with this message at 18:04 on Feb 13, 2022 |
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Karloff posted:These are incredible. It's weird how the line "we have the tools, we have the talent" is a call-back to a line that was deleted, even weirder that Ghostbusters II also contains a call back to this deleted scene, the "the ONLY Ghostbusters". Did they ever do the final or near final effects for the muggar-Louis scene?
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Karloff posted:I hope the scene of Louis confronting the muggers is released. I thought it was posted earlier in this thread, there's some footage of it here: https://www.theraffon.net/spookcentral/gb1_deleted15.htm
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Well, dope, that's a nice surprise.
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Karloff posted:These are incredible. It's weird how the line "we have the tools, we have the talent" is a call-back to a line that was deleted, even weirder that Ghostbusters II also contains a call back to this deleted scene, the "the ONLY Ghostbusters". I find that Magic song sinister as hell, but yeah, the longer cut makes the stakes feel a lot higher.
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Karloff posted:These are incredible. It's weird how the line "we have the tools, we have the talent" is a call-back to a line that was deleted, What's the deleted line that Winston's referencing?
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On that first deleted scene Peter says "We have the tools, we have the talent" in front of the TV cameras, later on Winston says it too, presumably referencing that. In the finished film, only Winston says it. It works fine on its own, just thought it was interesting.
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Karloff posted:On that first deleted scene Peter says "We have the tools, we have the talent" in front of the TV cameras, later on Winston says it too, presumably referencing that. In the finished film, only Winston says it. It works fine on its own, just thought it was interesting. I read or heard somewhere that Bill Murray was very generous with giving a lot of his lines to other characters, especially Hudson.
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https://twitter.com/franklinleonard/status/1493061838245744643
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I was watching Afterlife on Saturday night  I think what I liked best about Reitman was how even he knew something special happened on the original film. He loved to tell the story of how he saw the guys in their costumes in New York for the first time and got that wonderful feeling that something was clicking. He recognized that that kind of magic is a gift from the movie gods that doesn't come around every day, and he was happy to shepherd it, embrace it and ride the wave right till the end. RIP.
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Very sad to hear about Ivan Reitman's death. He made an indelible mark on comedy filmmaking.
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I like and have always liked Evolution.
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Oh man All those Afterlife clips of Jason talking about his dad suddenly went from sweet to tragic.
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At least he got to see his son's love letter. drat what a day
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CelticPredator posted:I like and have always liked Evolution. Same, it’s got some classic stuff in it
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I only saw Evolution once, in theaters, and even at the time I thought it was a pale echo of Ghostbusters, but with one truly incredible scene. "There is always time for lubricant" is just amazing.
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So from the primary and secondary cast and crew, that's: Harold Ramis Ivan Reitman David Margulies Michael Gross Hank Deutschendorf Wilhelm von Homburg Max von Sydow Alice Drummond  Edit: Elmer Bernstein Casey Kasem Larry King And Janet Margulies, the prosecutor from 2, though that happened decades ago. I mean, bound to happen when a movie is approaching 40 years old, but still. drat.
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If you’re including Kasem and King, might as well include Joe Franklin and Roger Grimsby too.
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Icon-Cat posted:I only saw Evolution once, in theaters, and even at the time I thought it was a pale echo of Ghostbusters, but with one truly incredible scene. "There is always time for lubricant" is just amazing. I think it’s better than the other ghostbusters movies past 1. Also the score is incredible
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I won a free movie rental through my phone contract and used it on Afterlife. It was both exactly what I feared it'd be but also a lot better. Please bear in mind I'm not big on packaged nostalgia and I find the Amblin adventure tone really cloying. I will bracing for a bad time with all the near pornographic shots of PKE meters and ghost traps - I think fetishising the gear is kind of detrimental to most sci-fi/fantasy, and it plays a bit the soy face, Funko Pop crowd. The first hour or so felt a bit precious and reverent, the last thing I want from a Ghostbusters sequel. The music cues were like being jammed in the ribs by an elbow. I wasn't keen on how (quite literally) toyetic Ecto-1 had become with its gunner seat and trap door. The performances by the younger kids in particular were charming, though and Podcast was a fun character. The final half really stepped things up though, the gags became more natural and funnier and it gained the confidence to focus on its own character arcs even amongst the reappearances of iconography from the first film - Gozer was pretty threatening here! I could have done with some more chaos in the town to sell the stakes, but I just enjoy a ghost zoo. The original trio showing up was a bit of a deus ex machina, but seeing them was a treat! I wasn't particularly moved by the Egon ghost or anything - he seemed uncharacteristically tender and emotive, but as far as franchise actor necromancy goes, it was pretty tasteful. So, I liked it, but I probably won't want to watch it every couple of years like I do Ghostbusters or even Ghostbusters 2. I remember laughing more at Answer the Call, but this was probably better than that. It's an enjoyable romp.
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Disco Pope posted:the soy face, Funko Pop crowd. the what now??
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egon_beeblebrox posted:the what now?? The kind of people who buy £70 toys and base their identity around the conspicuous consumption of things they remember from their childhood. I'm not trying to make some kind of insulting take here, I liked the movie in the balance, but there's a disconnect between fans of Ghostbusters who liked its shaggy-dog, slob comedy energy who are poorly served by this film and people who like the proton packs and lore and seeing their old toys come to life who are better served by it.
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Definitely. I grew up with GB but I just can’t get emotional about it. It’s cool and fun and funny. But it’s not like Star Wars to me which has emotional themes like family, and choice, consequence, and redemption ect. It’s 4 schlubby dudes fighting ghosts for cash lol. It rocks
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CelticPredator posted:
Winston is definitely not Schlubby!!
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Malcolm Excellent posted:Winston is definitely not Schlubby!! He makes $11500 a year!
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I can get emotional about Ghostbusters but like, it's the film itself that has the emotional connection. I have very specific childhood memories connected to the film itself, so just showing me a trap or a proton pack or the GB logo isn't gonna do anything on it's own. So for example I will always buy any new format or new restoration of Ghostbusters on blu ray or UHD or whatever, because I always want to have the best possible version of the film itself. But beyond that there's no desire to be surrounded by merch or wear a GB t-shirt or any of that nonsense.
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Part of me wonders if the reason GB gives me such warm fuzzies is precisely because it thumbs its nose at the warm-fuzzies game so many other movies play. In animal terms, Afterlife is a dog, it loves you and wants to be loved. The original film is a cat, it's too cool for that sort of thing and doesn't give a crap what you think. Well, I'm a cat person. (Mind you, I am very fond of Afterlife. Its Spielbergian aspects and its heart-tugging largely work on me. I think its efforts toward emotional appeal are more successful than GB2's, with that mawkish score and deliberate pleas to our kinder human nature.) I think what I'm trying to get at here is also why kids love Ghostbusters. I've watched the original film with kids a few times, and have very fond memories of watching it with my nieces—it's so much fun watching them enjoy it on the level that people our age (I'm guessing) did at the time. It has lots of things that kids like, but it is not a movie quote-unquote "for" kids—between some of the grownup jokes and the technobabble, it deliberately shuts them out sometimes, but that's part of the fun for them, it's like a mystery to solve, or a fun thing the older kids are doing that they want to be grown-up enough for.
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Icon-Cat posted:Part of me wonders if the reason GB gives me such warm fuzzies is precisely because it thumbs its nose at the warm-fuzzies game so many other movies play. Yeah! My relationship with the movies as a kid was coming from loving The Real Ghostbusters (I wanted hair like Peter. At almost 39, my hair threatens to become like movie Peter), seeing Ghostbusters 2 in the cinema (and being petrified of Vigo) and seeing the original on TV. And it didn't really register as a comedy. These guys were my heroes because they could defeat the worst thing - ghosts. There's jokes, but they're largely quite subtle for a little kid and based in character rather than incident. The movie grew up with me on rewatches, like being taken aback with the Regan era Libertarian slant when watching it in my 20s (I still love it even if framing the EPA is a villian is...weird!) or just finding "listen, do you smell that?" funnier every single time. Now I'm likely a little older than the characters, it's funny seeing these burnouts from academia go into an absurdist blue collar job. Afterlife is so stuck on your memory of Ghostbusters at 6 that it doesn't acknowledge what makes it great at 16 or 26 or 36, and perhaps worse, doesn't forge an identity of its own which, for all its faults, even Answer The Call did. Also, the post-credits scene must be some bolted on bullshit since it straight-up contradicts a line from the film! Disco Pope fucked around with this message at 09:35 on Feb 16, 2022 |
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https://twitter.com/scoutwithnick/status/1494385526232682496 Nice Ivan story.
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That sweet story made me sad all over again Seemed like a really nice guy, never seemed to get the credit or reverence for making the best movie ever
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Random thought as Ghostbusters II is on tv tonight is that I think the movie is just so technically well done and the cast chemistry is there that it covers up the fact that it's the same as the first movie.
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Mooseontheloose posted:Random thought as Ghostbusters II is on tv tonight is that I think the movie is just so technically well done and the cast chemistry is there that it covers up the fact that it's the same as the first movie. I absolutely love GB2, and in many scenes, it's both funnier and scarier than the original, but the original is literally perfect.
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People keep making GBS threads on GB2 but it's really funny, scary, has great set pieces and FX and it's good actually
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It's absolutely scarier. I recently re-watched it for the first time in at least 15 years, and when the painting's eyes first zapped poor Janozs I seriously jumped. Also the defunct subway scene with all the corpses or skeletons or whatever popping up was legitimately eerie and tense.
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Hipster_Doofus posted:It's absolutely scarier. I recently re-watched it for the first time in at least 15 years, and when the painting's eyes first zapped poor Janozs I seriously jumped. Also the defunct subway scene with all the corpses or skeletons or whatever popping up was legitimately eerie and tense. Lest we forget: 
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