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So Ford is removing the vaccine mandate and Trudeau might be invoking the Emergencies Act
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Feb 14, 2022 16:10
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Expanded capacity in Ontario this week and vax passports are done March 1. https://twitter.com/Gray_Mackenzie/status/1493235429075791880 https://twitter.com/ColinDMello/status/1493236510300286978
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Feb 14, 2022 16:11
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Even if that's true (LOL) they are going to take credit for it and just double down and make masks the next demand.
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Feb 14, 2022 16:13
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MasterSitsu posted:Even if that's true (LOL) they are going to take credit for it and just double down and make masks the next demand. 
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Feb 14, 2022 16:15
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MasterSitsu posted:Even if that's true (LOL) they are going to take credit for it and just double down and make masks the next demand. https://twitter.com/Tommy_Slick/status/1403455163524812800
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Feb 14, 2022 16:16
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https://twitter.com/TorontoStar/status/1493242902365016066
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Feb 14, 2022 16:24
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HappyHippo posted:So Ford is removing the vaccine mandate and Trudeau might be invoking the Emergencies Act With how terrible the local police response has been putting them under RCMP command has to be an improvement, right? Yes I know ACAB but at this point it's worth a shot.
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Feb 14, 2022 16:26
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https://www.thebeaverton.com/2022/02/ghost-of-pierre-elliott-trudeau-urges-justin-to-say-the-line/ quote:Ghost of Pierre Elliott Trudeau urges Justin to “say the line”
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Feb 14, 2022 16:27
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apparently the vaccine passport removal is about elimination of mandatory passports, but the infrastructure will remain for businesses that want to continue to offer it. Honestly... I'm not happy with it, but a lot more fine with that than a complete elimination. Let the plague rats have their plague centers.
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Feb 14, 2022 16:27
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Jordan7hm posted:apparently the vaccine passport removal is about elimination of mandatory passports, but the infrastructure will remain for businesses that want to continue to offer it. it isn’t fair to the businesses that want to continue it. they will be harassed and targeted by these asshats.
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Feb 14, 2022 16:34
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Edited for accuracy: 
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Feb 14, 2022 16:38
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Kady O'Malley in iPolitics has the process angle of what is required by Parliament to actually invoke the Emergencies Act. https://ipolitics.ca/2022/02/14/process-nerd-pm-to-invoke-emergencies-act-whats-next/ What this doesn't quite explain for me is what this actually DOES. Justin Ling's interpretation of the Act suggests it doesn't give the Feds the power to take control of the OPS, for example, but could prohibit public assembly or the use of specific property (like Wellington Street, for example?) https://twitter.com/Justin_Ling/status/1493242497925099522 Emergencies Act text here: https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/e-4.5/page-1.html So my question still falls to what does this do that would make people who have so far ignored the law subject to it? Would this actually force enforcement? Most reporting also seems to say there is still no plan to bring in the military (which, imo, is good) but if this is just new prohibitions and possible consequences, will it do anything if the people charged with actually making it happen don't make it happen? I stand to be corrected here. I'm not a law expert. Phylodox posted:Edited for accuracy: 
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Feb 14, 2022 16:46
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TulliusCicero posted:Imagine being an American White supremacist/ Facist and being too chicken poo poo to do anything in your own country that is far more conservative, so you fund a bunch of Larpers to start the White Man Revolution in loving Canada of all places Eh, I think strategy is in play here. This is a test of various ways to make infrastructure, a test of strategy and tactics, and finally a recon by fire against the western states.
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Feb 14, 2022 16:59
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Development posted:it isn’t fair to the businesses that want to continue it. they will be harassed and targeted by these asshats. Exactly. They've already been dealing with shitheads when it was a provincial health order. Now that it's optional, it's only going to get worse.
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Feb 14, 2022 17:14
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HackensackBackpack posted:So my question still falls to what does this do that would make people who have so far ignored the law subject to it? Would this actually force enforcement? Most reporting also seems to say there is still no plan to bring in the military (which, imo, is good) but if this is just new prohibitions and possible consequences, will it do anything if the people charged with actually making it happen don't make it happen? The most immediate effect I can see is that it would empower Parliament to regulate (or outright forbid) the occupation of a certain area; or parking a truck there; or having fuel; or going from this place to that; or any other things they think are contributing to disorder but are currently protected by one's section 2 rights. As I understand it, they can't compel the police to enforce the order, but they can hold the province responsible for not complying with it.
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Feb 14, 2022 17:18
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mom and dad fight a lot posted:Exactly. They've already been dealing with shitheads when it was a provincial health order. Now that it's optional, it's only going to get worse. I'm sure people will understand that "freedom" includes the freedom to demand proof of vaccination from anyone entering the place business. My business, my rules.
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Feb 14, 2022 17:26
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They don't even respect people's "freedom" to wear a mask if they choose.
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Feb 14, 2022 17:32
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pokeyman posted:I'm sure people will understand that "freedom" includes the freedom to demand proof of vaccination from anyone entering the place business. My business, my rules. Hahahahahahahahahahahaha... you're joking, right? These chucklefucks just think that "freedom" applies to them. How dare you ask them to respect the rules of your establishment or refuse them service because you don't want them making GBS threads in the deep frier or wiping their asses with the hamburger patties.
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Feb 14, 2022 17:33
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HappyHippo posted:They don't even respect people's "freedom" to wear a mask if they choose. If you like that you're gonna love hearing what they think about hijab
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Feb 14, 2022 17:33
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pokeyman posted:I'm sure people will understand that "freedom" includes the freedom to demand proof of vaccination from anyone entering the place business. My business, my rules. To them, freedom means "I get to do what I want, and you also get to do what I want."
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Feb 14, 2022 17:35
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You see, my freedom is greater than your freedom. It's natural law.
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Feb 14, 2022 17:40
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Scott Moe told Saskatchewan businesses to get a lawyer if they want to try to enforce proof of vaccinations.
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Feb 14, 2022 17:41
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Mokinokaro posted:With how terrible the local police response has been putting them under RCMP command has to be an improvement, right? Generally RCMP seem to be actually worse and more chuddy than local police in the past
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Feb 14, 2022 17:44
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Alctel posted:Generally RCMP seem to be actually worse and more chuddy than local police in the past Yeah but they'd have to reconcile that with how much they love to tase people. Really the approximately three visible minorities in the Honkies should be extra worried.
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Feb 14, 2022 17:52
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The Emergencies Act has been enacted. Time to kick some fascist rear end! 
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Feb 14, 2022 18:05
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Randalor posted:Hahahahahahahahahahahaha... you're joking, right? These chucklefucks just think that "freedom" applies to them. How dare you ask them to respect the rules of your establishment or refuse them service because you don't want them making GBS threads in the deep frier or wiping their asses with the hamburger patties. Yes I am joking.
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Feb 14, 2022 18:12
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Grouchio posted:The Emergencies Act has been enacted. Time to kick some fascist rear end! quote:Once cabinet declares an emergency, it takes effect right away — but the government still needs to go to Parliament within seven days to get approval. If either the Commons or the Senate votes against the motion, the emergency declaration is revoked That said, Singh says NDP will support the measure, despite thinking that using it is an admission of failure. Let's see what the house of sober second thought has to say on the subject.
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Feb 14, 2022 18:15
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infernal machines posted:That said, Singh says NDP will support the measure, despite thinking that using it is an admission of failure. Singh trying to pin it on Trudeau instead of Ford is just him trying to score political points with Canadians who don't know what's provincial vs. federal jurisdiction.
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Feb 14, 2022 18:19
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Meanwhile https://twitter.com/Gray_Mackenzie/status/1493273270375927808
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Feb 14, 2022 18:20
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infernal machines posted:That said, Singh says NDP will support the measure, despite thinking that using it is an admission of failure. Let's see what the house of sober second thought has to say on the subject. Can't imagine the senate being pleased with the feds cracking down on so many future members of the red chamber.
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Feb 14, 2022 18:21
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tagesschau posted:Singh trying to pin it on Trudeau instead of Ford is just him trying to score political points with Canadians who don't know what's provincial vs. federal jurisdiction. I'd say that's a pretty broad audience, TBH Cocaine Bear posted:Can't imagine the senate being pleased with the feds cracking down on so many future members of the red chamber. Yeah... I seem to remember the senate as being at least somewhat wingnut aligned, but who knows?
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Feb 14, 2022 18:21
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No plans to deploy the military. I wonder how this will help the feckless police do their job.
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Feb 14, 2022 18:24
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ZeeBoi posted:No plans to deploy the military. I wonder how this will help the feckless police do their job. 
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Feb 14, 2022 18:25
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And to think I'd probably be arrested if i pissed on the victims of communism monument. (Is that actually built yet?)
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Feb 14, 2022 18:26
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Having out of town police was a big part of why the G20 went the way it did in Toronto, so look forward to that, I guess.
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Feb 14, 2022 18:26
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infernal machines posted:Having out of town police was a big part of why the G20 went the way it did in Toronto, so look forward to that, I guess. They'll have twice as much work though, as they'll have to subdue the OPS before they can start with the protestors. edit: well, 1 1/2 times as much work.
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Feb 14, 2022 18:44
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https://mobile.twitter.com/ByJamesKeller/status/1493282670985375749 So this is fun
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Feb 14, 2022 19:06
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HappyHippo posted:https://mobile.twitter.com/ByJamesKeller/status/1493282670985375749 The Canadian government trampling on Canadians' sacred second amendment rights, which we have.
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Feb 14, 2022 19:36
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HackensackBackpack posted:The Canadian government trampling on Canadians' sacred second amendment rights, which we have. I've ran into a guy on the train bragging about his concealed carry license, which I'm pretty sure isn't a thing for civilians here, and a guy at a protest no-joke saying we should defend the 2nd amendment, to which naturally the entire crowd screamed back "This isn't America". I feel that about 90% of idiots pushing this angle are just Americans who apparently are doing protest tourism here, and the other 10% actually want the US to annex Canada.
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Feb 14, 2022 19:56
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I wonder if it's somehow related to the people with guns and cop/firefighter uniforms. HackensackBackpack posted:The Canadian government trampling on Canadians' sacred second amendment rights, which we have. I will never support The second amendment, which recognizes BC as a province of Canada.
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