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This one in particular seems like a bad change, because it changes the man from a pretty realistic depiction of an older Eastern Asian man, to a man with generic Western European cartoon eyes https://twitter.com/savagesmallwood/status/1491463991486525442?s=21
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Reminder that the current Editor-in-Chief of Marvel Comics is a white guy who in the 2000's made up a persona named "Akira Yoshida" to solicit work as. Maybe they're overcompensating now?
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https://twitter.com/ReberVision/status/1492253174966669312?t=7qsd-aLJVwOcsr3Gt8LCfQ&s=19 Keep digging that grave, Valiant. There are plenty more comics to discover without you.
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Endless Mike posted:For all the jokes about Goon Projects, one guy in the YOSPOS cat thread has organized, commissioned, printed, and delivered calendars every year for the past three years or more without a problem. IDK what That Star Wars Girl is doing, but it can't be any harder than actually commissioning original art unless it's drawing poo poo herself. It's not art work, its just pictures of her wearing Cosplay, making it all the more ridiculous that they can't get it out on time.
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does she know yyou can make photo calendars at your local walgreens
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fun hater posted:does she know yyou can make photo calendars at your local walgreens Yeah, assuming she owns 12 different cosplay outfits it should take less than a week to have that poo poo shipped.
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fatherboxx posted:https://twitter.com/SavageSmallwood/status/1491463477952663554 Erica Henderson may have won the entire discourse. https://twitter.com/EricaFails/status/1491475061173325826?s=20&t=U3Y2gdAfhS-lP2IcS3Wvvg
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CaligulaKangaroo posted:Erica Henderson may have won the entire discourse. 
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CaligulaKangaroo posted:Erica Henderson may have won the entire discourse. 
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CaligulaKangaroo posted:Erica Henderson may have won the entire discourse. Kerblam-slam
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CaligulaKangaroo posted:Erica Henderson may have won the entire discourse. All I'm seeing here is a white person telling an Asian person what he should and should not find offensive in artistic depictions of Asian people. Can you please explain how this is a massive win?
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Jedit posted:All I'm seeing here is a white person telling an Asian person what he should and should not find offensive in artistic depictions of Asian people. Can you please explain how this is a massive win? pictured: noted white person Erica Hederson https://twitter.com/EricaFails/status/1492514236207140866?s=20&t=aUUWtoI86WkESaU88lfAJg
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Gravitas Shortfall posted:pictured: noted white person Erica Hederson I am now extremely embarrassed and will crawl under a rock. Objection removed. (In my defence, I was sure I'd seen a picture of her before. Obviously I was wrong.)
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Jedit posted:All I'm seeing here is a white person telling an Asian person what he should and should not find offensive in artistic depictions of Asian people. Can you please explain how this is a massive win? In addition to Erica Henderson's own ethnicity. The Editor in Chief of Marvel is a white dude named C.B. Cebulski, who, when he was an editor at a time when Marvel didn't let editors also write for them, ghost wrote under the name Akira Yoshida and claimed to be a born and raised in Japan (obviously these claims were over email, not in person).
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Skwirl posted:In addition to Erica Henderson's own ethnicity. The Editor in Chief of Marvel is a white dude named C.B. Cebulski, who, when he was an editor at a time when Marvel didn't let editors also write for them, ghost wrote under the name Akira Yoshida and claimed to be a born and raised in Japan (obviously these claims were over email, not in person). Ouch, I didn't know that. So it's the exact opposite of what I initially perceived it to be - she's legit calling him out for co-option. Thanks everyone for the patient explanation.
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Jedit posted:Ouch, I didn't know that. So it's the exact opposite of what I initially perceived it to be - she's legit calling him out for co-option. Thanks everyone for the patient explanation. It's at times like these I'm very happy S.A. is not like Twitter, where everyone doubles down no matter their mistakes.
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I wonder how it works internally when someone murders their boss like that. Does she become EIC now?
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Jedit posted:All I'm seeing here is a white person telling an Asian person what he should and should not find offensive in artistic depictions of Asian people. Can you please explain how this is a massive win? quoting for posterity
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Jedit posted:Ouch, I didn't know that. So it's the exact opposite of what I initially perceived it to be - she's legit calling him out for co-option. Thanks everyone for the patient explanation. He also hired an actor to pretend to be "Akira Yoshida" and to visit the Marvel offices and to pretend to not speak english. Disney is, once again, loving over artists. https://twitter.com/n0vaprime/status/1492485594911772676?s=21
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Skwirl posted:In addition to Erica Henderson's own ethnicity. The Editor in Chief of Marvel is a white dude named C.B. Cebulski, who, when he was an editor at a time when Marvel didn't let editors also write for them, ghost wrote under the name Akira Yoshida and claimed to be a born and raised in Japan (obviously these claims were over email, not in person). Cebulski also was kind of the driving force behind the Marvel Mangaverse. Which could get weird.
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Vincent posted:He also hired an actor to pretend to be "Akira Yoshida" and to visit the Marvel offices and to pretend to not speak english. I knew that at least one then-Marvel editor (Mike Marts, iirc) claimed to have met "Akira Yoshida," but I thought he was simply lying to cover Cebulski's rear end. the actor explanation, if true, would make the whole episode even weirder
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Mike Marts said he had lunch with Akira Yoshida and was impressed by his Godzilla collection, and when the story broke, Rich Johnston said he spoke with multiple Marvel people who said Akira Yoshida was brought into the office on multiple occasions. Now, it's entirely possible the Marvel people just decided to make up a single lie to tell to save face, but that seems less likely than that Cebulski brought in a Japanese person to play the part. (This CBR articles says it was a translator according to BC, but the BC article it links to doesn't have any mention of that, so it's possible Johnston scrubbed that or it only shows up in the audio I didn't listen to.) Also for some fun, read CBR's interview with "Akira Yoshida" where he talks about having gone around the con circuit in 2002 before getting hired by Marvel.
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It should also be pointed out, the stuff he wrote as Akira was largely stuff set in Japan or had very orientalist vibes (stuff about "upholding the honor of my ancestors" and what not).
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Wolverine: Soultaker is bad enough on its own, but knowing that it was written by a white man masquarading as a Japanese man makes it even worse.
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I still can't believe he has retained his job.
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Rhyno posted:I still can't believe he has retained his job. That is the power of being a white man.
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not sure where to post this, but there's some controversy on comics Twitter over Jason Aaron creating a Pocahontas-inspired "sexy native princess" character in his Conan run https://twitter.com/kellylynnedang/status/1498158377037287436 https://twitter.com/riteshwriter/status/1498478868269002754 https://twitter.com/alinapete/status/1498358219177021441
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Barry Convex posted:not sure where to post this, but there's some controversy on comics Twitter over Jason Aaron creating a Pocahontas-inspired "sexy native princess" character in his Conan run Curious what they think of Scalped.
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There's some comments about it.
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Mixed up Jasons who worked on Southern Bastards, sorry! Space Fish fucked around with this message at 14:07 on Mar 1, 2022 |
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Space Fish posted:Remember when his pick-up line at cons was "I've got some copies of Spider-Gwen up in my hotel room?" Are you thinking of Jason Latour, who got called out for propositioning women at cons and who co-created Spider-Gwen, or was Jason Aaron inexplicably using a comic he had nothing to do with as a pick-up line? Not trying to be glib, for all I know that was actually an Aaron thing, who knows at this point, but it sounds an awful lot like what went down with Latour.
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Ew. WHY. It’s Conan, a fictional pre-history. He could have kept his mouth shut on inspiration and/or made something up out of whole cloth, including a name. He’d still rightfully get criticism for appropriating indigenous culture, but that’s sadly still bog standard in the genre. And it shouldn’t be! Paul Cornell consulted a group of British Muslim women when he wrote Dr. Faiza Hussain/Excalibur and credited them every issue of the 2008 series because he wanted to ensure he was portraying her well, especially in terms of how her faith informed her actions. Different media but fighting game Killer Instinct (2013) consulted with a Nimíipuu (Nez Perce) storyteller and other tribe members to change Thunder from a racist stereotype into a heroic representation that the dev studio improved on later in 2015 when they got feedback some visuals still weren’t quite right! There is ZERO EXCUSE for what Aaron chose and what the editors allowed.
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Huh I didn't even make that connection
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Man I always assumed Aaron was at least part Native American from Scalped, yikes.
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I can genuinely not imagine how loving sheltered you need to be to think Big Titty Conan Pocahontas is a remotely okay idea.
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I think Conan’s depiction of women in general is something that should have been relegated to the trash heap long ago.
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