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PIZZA.BAT
Nov 12, 2016


:cheers:


Truga posted:

pretty sure this is supposed to be just a joke about foreigners, as in my experience we have trouble with "the" a lot when learning english. half the people i helped with english in school never used it and the other half used it in front of every noun, because slavspeek doesn't have the concept of it

Right I don’t know if it was intentional or not. It certainly has gained an additional layer with current events though

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HUGE PUBES A PLUS
Apr 30, 2005

So far I've heard the Russians are pulling back Ukraine is saved and there's Russian media saying Ukraine has gone full fascist police state.

https://twitter.com/cossackgundi/status/1494285409408409600

Is this dominant theme in Russia? "Ukrainian authorities are murdering people on the street indiscriminately we must save them from themselves!"

Alchenar
Apr 9, 2008

HUGE PUBES A PLUS posted:

Is this dominant theme in Russia? "Ukrainian authorities are murdering people on the street indiscriminately we must save them from themselves!"

Its a huge, huge part of the state narrative strategy for survival: "your life might suck in Russia, but everywhere outside Russia is a mad-max disaster zone so just be thankful you have a strong government to protect you from the guys and liberals and think twice about protesting"

fatherboxx
Mar 25, 2013

HUGE PUBES A PLUS posted:

Is this dominant theme in Russia? "Ukrainian authorities are murdering people on the street indiscriminately we must save them from themselves!"

Yes, the ridiculous story of a crucified boy is still the go to example of Russian propaganda

The Bloody Pastor and his homonazi cyborgs are gonna get ya!!!

Kavros
May 18, 2011

sleep sleep sleep
fly fly post post
sleep sleep sleep
This is like an intensely purified version of the "we will be greeted as liberators" playthrough sold to us after 9/11

Mokotow
Apr 16, 2012

Certainly an interesting route for this Italian Airforce bizjet.

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cinci zoo sniper
Mar 15, 2013




cinci zoo sniper posted:

Looking at the live map, it feels to me that Russian shelling is intensifying.

The war might be going hot soon, gently caress. :(

https://twitter.com/liveuamap/status/1494277413991337984

https://twitter.com/liveuamap/status/1494291029578637319

a podcast for cats
Jun 22, 2005

Dogs reading from an artifact buried in the ruins of our civilization, "We were assholes- " and writing solemnly, "They were assholes."
Soiled Meat
So Russia expelling the US deputy ambassador is a bit of a big deal, is it not?

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug
Its not a good sign no. And effectively Ukraine cannot respond to the shelling without giving Russia excuses to respond.

cinci zoo sniper
Mar 15, 2013




Russian response to the U.S. https://tass.ru/politika/13744013

GABA ghoul
Oct 29, 2011

https://twitter.com/michaelh992/status/1494310424573104138?t=f40lZwoJpCfwdbMVbcIC0A&s=19

cinci zoo sniper
Mar 15, 2013




I’ve scanned the text diagonally. Russia is signalling that they’re interested in working on arms controls topics with the U.S., but otherwise they’re mostly indignant, if not outright mocking, about primacy of their requirements in the earlier ultimatum. There goes all the hand wringing about “surely Russia is actually interesting in making concessions”.

cinci zoo sniper fucked around with this message at 16:29 on Feb 17, 2022

OddObserver
Apr 3, 2009

cinci zoo sniper posted:

I’ve scanned the text diagonally. Russia is signalling that they’re interested in working on arms controls topics with the U.S., but otherwise they’re mostly indignant, if not outright mocking, about primacy of their requirements in the earlier absolute. There goes all the hand wringing about “surely Russia is actually interesting in making concessions”.

Russia's ideas of concessions is "Poland will get to annex Lviv".

Truga
May 4, 2014
Lipstick Apathy

OddObserver posted:

Russia's ideas of concessions is "Poland will get to annex Lviv".

ah, the lavrov-lau pact

Dr Kool-AIDS
Mar 26, 2004

cinci zoo sniper posted:

I’ve scanned the text diagonally. Russia is signalling that they’re interested in working on arms controls topics with the U.S., but otherwise they’re mostly indignant, if not outright mocking, about primacy of their requirements in the earlier absolute. There goes all the hand wringing about “surely Russia is actually interesting in making concessions”.

Keep punching at strawmen dude, nobody said vague noises about arms control were going to get it done.

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CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug
https://twitter.com/DeItaone/status/1494311748257652742?s=20&t=NJLBKvgbIWOENPADjdJEug

Again with the "US Needs to leave Eastern AND Central Europe" which is a non starter.

WAR CRIME GIGOLO
Oct 3, 2012

The Hague
tryna get me
for these glutes

Russia demands an immediate departure of US troops from Langley Air Base

ronya
Nov 8, 2010

I'm the normal one.

You hate ridden fucks will regret your words when you eventually grow up.

Peace.
https://twitter.com/Billbrowder/status/1494264636258009088

Grouchio
Aug 31, 2014

Never, ever, discount the Russian feint.

Hold onto your butts, Russia/Ukraine. Yes, both of you.

CommieGIR posted:

Again with the "US Needs to leave Eastern AND Central Europe" which is a non starter.
And the US and NATO will obviously do neither. Have Russia's goalposts shifted so much they want a war outside Ukraine?

Grouchio fucked around with this message at 16:03 on Feb 17, 2022

EvilBlackRailgun
Jan 28, 2007


So this is probably going down once the Olympics are over

Surprised this isn’t acknowledged more

Generation Internet
Jan 18, 2009

Where angels and generals fear to tread.

CommieGIR posted:

https://twitter.com/DeItaone/status/1494311748257652742?s=20&t=NJLBKvgbIWOENPADjdJEug

Again with the "US Needs to leave Eastern AND Central Europe" which is a non starter.

This is completely beside the content of the tweet, but I really hate it when people tweet in ALL CAPS LIKE TWITTER IS ACTUALLY A WIRE DISPATCH FROM THE 1940S.

I really hope Russia backs down for the sake of all the soldiers and civilians who will suffer if there's a renewed conflict. It's depressing that there's been zero sign of that so far.

Flayer
Sep 13, 2003

by Fluffdaddy
Buglord
Is this an attempt to draw Ukrainian forces to the disputed regions while Russia launches a invasion from elsewhere?

DandyLion
Jun 24, 2010
disrespectul Deciever

Russia is going to attack Ukraine, push inland, take some more territory, and then rinse and repeat every 8 years or so. Nothing substantially different is going to happen to Russia aside from what's happening now.

pippy
May 29, 2013

CRIMES
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHCxUFZpzY8
I'm confused by this accusation. Wasn't the Kindergarden on the Ukrainian controlled side? And I haven't seen people talk about Russia calling this an attack by Ukraine.

orange sky
May 7, 2007

Maybe already posted? Anyway,

https://twitter.com/Conflicts/status/1494254778968379393?t=hpUr8gwc1QRgNENkT5pV-g&s=19

PS probably bullshit. Not even sure that's the embassy lol

WAR CRIME GIGOLO
Oct 3, 2012

The Hague
tryna get me
for these glutes

DandyLion posted:

Russia is going to attack Ukraine, push inland, take some more territory, and then rinse and repeat every 8 years or so. Nothing substantially different is going to happen to Russia aside from what's happening now.

Unless they crack Kiev after traveling only 200KM inward.

OddObserver
Apr 3, 2009

pippy posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHCxUFZpzY8
I'm confused by this accusation. Wasn't the Kindergarden on the Ukrainian controlled side? And I haven't seen people talk about Russia calling this an attack by Ukraine.

You're not confused, Russian state media is just shameless liars.

cinci zoo sniper
Mar 15, 2013




Flayer posted:

Is this an attempt to draw Ukrainian forces to the disputed regions while Russia launches a invasion from elsewhere?

They have a large enough force stationed there already to go door by door through LDNR, were it not for the Russian troops there. My personal read on this is that they are attempting to get a “material” casus belli by provoking government forces to responding to the artillery shelling in kind. With the media in Russia entering a frenzy to an extent where they are currently mislabelling some damage dealt to the government-controlled territories as if it is in LDNR and the government forces are responsible for it, even the most precise retaliation is virtually guaranteed to give a lot of spin ammunition.

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug

orange sky posted:

Maybe already posted? Anyway,

https://twitter.com/Conflicts/status/1494254778968379393?t=hpUr8gwc1QRgNENkT5pV-g&s=19

PS probably bullshit. Not even sure that's the embassy lol

Quick check of Google Street View, that does appear to be the Russian Embassy



This is from in front of the Russian embassy, you can see the roof lines up and the building facade is a match, the film being taken from that building on the far left.

CommieGIR fucked around with this message at 16:25 on Feb 17, 2022

GABA ghoul
Oct 29, 2011

pippy posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHCxUFZpzY8
I'm confused by this accusation. Wasn't the Kindergarden on the Ukrainian controlled side? And I haven't seen people talk about Russia calling this an attack by Ukraine.

He's probably using the term 'false flag' wrong. Russian state, chud and tankie media have been outright lying about the kindergarten being on the Russian side all morning. That's what he is probably referring to

cinci zoo sniper
Mar 15, 2013




pippy posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHCxUFZpzY8
I'm confused by this accusation. Wasn't the Kindergarden on the Ukrainian controlled side? And I haven't seen people talk about Russia calling this an attack by Ukraine.

It is on the government side of the frontline. Here’s one of the largest Russian online newspapers reporting something else - https://lenta.ru/news/2022/02/17/detsad/

KillHour
Oct 28, 2007


EvilBlackRailgun posted:

So this is probably going down once the Olympics are over

Surprised this isn’t acknowledged more

I'm not sure how much you want it acknowledged. It's been blowing up my phone's news feed for weeks and is the entire reason we're all in a special thread for it.

cinci zoo sniper posted:

It is on the government side of the frontline. Here’s one of the largest Russian online newspapers reporting something else - https://lenta.ru/news/2022/02/17/detsad/

I think you'll find that after the dust settles, that kindergarten will be clearly inside Russia's borders, giving them a retroactive casus belli :colbert:

KillHour fucked around with this message at 16:29 on Feb 17, 2022

GABA ghoul
Oct 29, 2011

Most important Russian TV channel just presenting secret Ukrainian invasion plan(obtained by the the DNR intelligence) in the evening news. A 4 days operation, mass killings and purges planned, they have maps and everything. Absolutely insane lmao

e: lol, love how they pointed out that the map uses NATO counter :discourse:

GABA ghoul fucked around with this message at 16:33 on Feb 17, 2022

cinci zoo sniper
Mar 15, 2013




GABA ghoul posted:

Most important Russian TV channel just presenting secret Ukrainian invasion plan(obtained by the the DNR intelligence) in the evening news. A 4 days operation, mass killings and purges planned, they have maps and everything. Absolutely insane lmao

I hope the maps are at least not from ARMA 3 video game this time.

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug

cinci zoo sniper posted:

I hope the maps are at least not from ARMA 3 video game this time.

"Oh no, 2, is Down."

Grouchio
Aug 31, 2014

My only wonder is if Putin has enough discipline in his army that he won't let their anger spiral out of control and accidentally engage with NATO.

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug

Grouchio posted:

My only wonder is if Putin has enough discipline in his army that he won't let their anger spiral out of control and accidentally engage with NATO.

Well for the most part I suspect there'd be some damage control. Even with Putin being aggressive in Ukraine, both the US, NATO, and Russia do not want a full blown war.

EvilBlackRailgun
Jan 28, 2007


KillHour posted:

I'm not sure how much you want it acknowledged. It's been blowing up my phone's news feed for weeks and is the entire reason we're all in a special thread for it.

I mean the fact that the Russians invaded Crimea like 3 days before the Sochi Olympics ended

It seems pretty obvious that they are doing that again and everyone is acting like we have no idea when this will go down

Nenonen
Oct 22, 2009

Mulla on aina kolkyt donaa taskussa

orange sky posted:

Maybe already posted? Anyway,

https://twitter.com/Conflicts/status/1494254778968379393?t=hpUr8gwc1QRgNENkT5pV-g&s=19

PS probably bullshit. Not even sure that's the embassy lol

White smoke indicates the conclave has chosen the new leader of Ukraine!

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Shes Not Impressed
Apr 25, 2004


https://twitter.com/KyivIndependent/status/1494337218441142281?s=20&t=GI3wFV7kLJ_dId16HHNWNw
Not sure what will come of this.

https://twitter.com/Osinttechnical/status/1494337646188916747?s=20&t=GI3wFV7kLJ_dId16HHNWNw
As someone who worked in Ukrainian schools and works in early childhood now, what a stupid loving thing.

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