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Brawnfire
Jul 13, 2004

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The Wiggly Wizard posted:

Reddit loves videos of school fights and women/girls getting K.O. punches to the head for shoving. I dunno poo poo like this really bums me out

How about encouraging some de-escalation and pacifism. Am I way off?

No, my kid's gonna be Ender Wiggin and you're gonna like it live with the consequences of their psychopathy one way or another

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Blue Footed Booby
Oct 4, 2006

got those happy feet

The Wiggly Wizard posted:

Reddit loves videos of school fights and women/girls getting K.O. punches to the head for shoving. I dunno poo poo like this really bums me out

How about encouraging some de-escalation and pacifism. Am I way off?

De-escalation is good. But not all conflicts can be de-escalated, and I don't think it's reasonable or acceptable to ask kids to meekly tolerate heaps of abuse just because standing up for themselves might escalate things. If your concept of pacifism doesn't account for that then yeah, I'd say you're way off. I'm coming at this in the context of school fights, where at least where I went all parties who did anything other than run or get beat on were on paper treated as aggressors even if one person was cornered and trying to fight their way to safety, or fought back to avoid turning their back on someone actively attacking them who they knew could run faster.

But telling kids to "finish" fights is hosed up. Most of that talk IME typically comes from childless people who got bullied and are overcompensating.

Blue Footed Booby fucked around with this message at 22:10 on Feb 17, 2022

The Wiggly Wizard
Aug 21, 2008


Well I really don't like that fights involving two minors in school gets spread around for the amusement of adults.

I understand in many cases a kid can boil over after tons of abuse, or it's a self-defense situation. But we don't have any context to what leads up to a 30 second viral fight video. Doesn't stop the body language experts in the OP and comments from making a narrative out of whole cloth.

Reddit especially has a boner for justifying women getting hit back harder by much stronger men. It's always a feeding frenzy in the comments with stuff like "bitch deserved it"

Strategic Tea
Sep 1, 2012

Blue Footed Booby posted:

De-escalation is good. But not all conflicts can be de-escalated, and I don't think it's reasonable or acceptable to ask kids to meekly tolerate heaps of abuse just because standing up for themselves might escalate things. If your concept of pacifism doesn't account for that then yeah, I'd say you're way off. I'm coming at this in the context of school fights, where at least where I went all parties who did anything other than run or get beat on were on paper treated as aggressors even if one person was cornered and trying to fight their way to safety, or fought back to avoid turning their back on someone actively attacking them who they knew could run faster.

But telling kids to "finish" fights is hosed up. Most of that talk IME typically comes from childless people who got bullied and are overcompensating.

I agree, and also Grandpa Simpson had it right. Bullies aren't cowards. Physical bullies are stronger and used to light violence, and know they will win. Social bullies are more charismatic and intimidating, and know that the room will side with them.

Kids can't ~finish the fight~ in most cases, and grown adults who pretend otherwise are indulging in combo revenge fantasy and victim blaming so they don't have to feel upset.

gbs but from 2004
Oct 24, 2004

wow u rude pig

"i STarTed this TOIlEt Of A tHreaD aNd HAve sOmEHOW aVoidEd A red teXt"

RFC2324 posted:

They forked tay, and this is what years of reddit posts turned her into

I dunno what that means

Chamale
Jul 11, 2010

I'm helping!



gbs but from 2004 posted:

I dunno what that means

Microsoft made a chatbot that could learn from people it interacted with, and it took less than 24 hours to become a disaster:

Theophany
Jul 22, 2014

SUCCHIAMI IL MIO CAZZO DA DIETRO, RANA RAGAZZO



2022 FIA Formula 1 WDC

The Wiggly Wizard posted:

Well I really don't like that fights involving two minors in school gets spread around for the amusement of adults.

I understand in many cases a kid can boil over after tons of abuse, or it's a self-defense situation. But we don't have any context to what leads up to a 30 second viral fight video. Doesn't stop the body language experts in the OP and comments from making a narrative out of whole cloth.

Reddit especially has a boner for justifying women getting hit back harder by much stronger men. It's always a feeding frenzy in the comments with stuff like "bitch deserved it"

I believe "equal rights and equal lefts" is their terribly witty catchphrase.

COPE 27
Sep 11, 2006

There's a lot of subreddit to celebrate beating up women with some token justification that she deserved it.

Iirc justiceporn is an example

Kevin DuBrow
Apr 21, 2012

The uruk-hai defender has logged on.

evilpicard posted:

There's a lot of subreddit to celebrate beating up women with some token justification that she deserved it.

Iirc justiceporn is an example

https://www.reddit.com/r/pussypassdenied/



After posting this image I feel I have to clarify that they're upvoting this image because they agree with the reply.

The Butcher
Apr 20, 2005

Well, at least we tried.
Nap Ghost
It's such a stupid loving platform. I've actually been able to do some cool poo poo with it locally and get stuff done and help people, and be helped as well, but you have to move fast to get around the mods who will never, ever allow any community control or oversight. Just a dumb little clique.

Like you get a few racists in charge of a sub, and it's hosed. No more talking about anything related to that. At least in the traditional format here we can be like hey admins, BlackStomper1488 is surprisingly kind of a piece of poo poo, could they maybe not be a mod? And you can get some traction.

There is no way to unfuck a hosed sub unless you actually start hurting the owning corpos money, and then generally, it will just be killed, not fixed. Easier.

I think it's doomed, but there is nowhere else to go. gently caress twitter, gently caress insta, gently caress FB, gently caress reddit. I ain't playing with that poo poo. And it's a hard sell for everyone to spend :10bux: and not get to be a shithead without being called out on it, and learn the old ways of posting.

The Butcher fucked around with this message at 04:36 on Feb 18, 2022

COPE 27
Sep 11, 2006

I find it strange that the so called social media companies appear to actively make it difficult to have a conversation.

I've been fairly active in a few facebook groups and subreddits related to my hobby and the amount of actual interaction other than "give me internet points" is about an order of magnitude less than a literal dead gay forum here.


Cursed hyperlink

Megillah Gorilla
Sep 22, 2003

If only all of life's problems could be solved by smoking a professor of ancient evil texts.



Bread Liar
EDIT: Beaten.

Brawnfire
Jul 13, 2004

🎧Listen to Cylindricule!🎵
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Aw, drat, I always thought pussypassdenied was thirsty dudes getting shut down. I never checked, now I'm disappointed.

Seth Pecksniff
May 27, 2004

can't believe shrek is fucking dead. rip to a real one.
I have to talk about Reddit for work tomorrow and it's going to be so drat hard to be objective and not scream out REDDIT SUCKS poo poo every five minutes

Antivehicular
Dec 30, 2011


I wanna sing one for the cars
That are right now headed silent down the highway
And it's dark and there is nobody driving And something has got to give

I've always wondered how much crossover there is between the "desperately looking for a 'justified' excuse to hit a woman" guys and the "convinced any man will always beat any woman in a fight, and that he personally could casually destroy female MMA competitors despite being a doughy guy who hasn't thrown a punch since third grade" guys. Probably a lot!

The Butcher
Apr 20, 2005

Well, at least we tried.
Nap Ghost

Seth Pecksniff posted:

I have to talk about Reddit for work tomorrow and it's going to be so drat hard to be objective and not scream out REDDIT SUCKS poo poo every five minutes

Just use confusing buzzwords and talk in meaningless circles, earn your pay and go home, changing nothing, or making it worse.

Progress!

A finger on the pulse of the zeitgeist.
Monetized community engagement.
Building our brand through new channels.
Staying on the leading edge of what people want to see, and the first name that comes into mind is ours.
Fresh, modern, profitable.

The Butcher fucked around with this message at 04:42 on Feb 18, 2022

Megillah Gorilla
Sep 22, 2003

If only all of life's problems could be solved by smoking a professor of ancient evil texts.



Bread Liar

Seth Pecksniff posted:

I have to talk about Reddit for work tomorrow and it's going to be so drat hard to be objective and not scream out REDDIT SUCKS poo poo every five minutes

"Now that the paedophilia subreddits and the most openly racist subreddits have been closed, this just leaves the literally thousands of homophobic and misogynist subreddits operating and ripe for monetisation by our company. Thank you for your time."

EL BROMANCE
Jun 10, 2006

COWABUNGA DUDES!
🥷🐢😬



There was a dog attack death at the rescue around the corner from me this morning, so of course all the ban pitbull types (despite the fact it wasn’t a pitbull but they’ve convinced themselves it was) are brigading the local sub and being an absolute delight. Zero surprise they’re all gun nuts and libertarians, because they’re just bloodlusting assholes who don’t care one bit about the person who died.

The Fattest PI
Mar 4, 2008

EL BROMANCE posted:

Zero surprise they’re all gun nuts and libertarians, because they’re just bloodlusting assholes who don’t care one bit about the person who died.

There's also a certain amount of dogwhistling when it comes to those groups and their dislike of pitbulls. To put it bluntly they think of them as black people dogs.

COPE 27
Sep 11, 2006

Antivehicular posted:

could casually destroy female MMA competitors despite being a doughy guy who hasn't thrown a punch since third grade" guys.

Come join the B-league mma thread and find out!

je1 healthcare
Sep 29, 2015

The Fattest PI posted:

There's also a certain amount of dogwhistling when it comes to those groups and their dislike of pitbulls. To put it bluntly they think of them as black people dogs.

Why the heck would they think that....? Pitbulls? Did they just pick a random breed? My brother owns one and she's a sweetheart

EL BROMANCE
Jun 10, 2006

COWABUNGA DUDES!
🥷🐢😬



It’s a stigma that moves between breeds as years go by. Back in the UK, it used to be Rottweilers that were apparently eating babies at every opportunity, but ever since the pitbull craze I’ve not heard anyone care in years. And yes, I’m not surprised in the slightest there’s a racial tinge to it and hadn’t really considered that despite it always being behind every lovely Reddit opinion.

Blue Footed Booby
Oct 4, 2006

got those happy feet

EL BROMANCE posted:

It’s a stigma that moves between breeds as years go by. Back in the UK, it used to be Rottweilers that were apparently eating babies at every opportunity, but ever since the pitbull craze I’ve not heard anyone care in years. And yes, I’m not surprised in the slightest there’s a racial tinge to it and hadn’t really considered that despite it always being behind every lovely Reddit opinion.

You see frothing pitbull hate here, occasionally, including some weirdos getting banned for some pretty sick fantasies. I have no idea how people fixate on this of all issues.

The Fattest PI
Mar 4, 2008

je1 healthcare posted:

Did they just pick a random breed? My brother owns one and she's a sweetheart

They were bred for fighting. I'm guessing in a pit

Pennywise the Frown
May 10, 2010

Upset Trowel

Blue Footed Booby posted:

You see frothing pitbull hate here, occasionally, including some weirdos getting banned for some pretty sick fantasies. I have no idea how people fixate on this of all issues.

Yeah the most pitbull hate I've seen has been from goons.

Smirking_Serpent
Aug 27, 2009

Pennywise the Frown posted:

Yeah the most pitbull hate I've seen has been from goons.

I mean sending him to Alaska was a bit mischievous but I wouldn’t call it hate

Betty Wight
Jan 1, 2022

Reddit is good for crowdsourcing technical or obscure information on niche topics. Which is counter balanced by their terrible interface and mod system.

So it’s a land of contrasts.

Chamale
Jul 11, 2010

I'm helping!



Pitbulls are strong so if they do attack someone they'll do a lot more damage than a poodle. Of course, the r/BanPitBulls posters never seem to mention that a dog with testicles is 30 times more likely to fatally attack someone than a neutered male or any female, so if there's a genetic predisposition to violence it should be r/BanDogBalls.

Betty Wight
Jan 1, 2022

Chamale posted:

Pitbulls are strong so if they do attack someone they'll do a lot more damage than a poodle. Of course, the r/BanPitBulls posters never seem to mention that a dog with testicles is 30 times more likely to fatally attack someone than a neutered male or any female, so if there's a genetic predisposition to violence it should be r/BanDogBalls.

Is a pitbull without balls more violent than other dogs without balls. I mean at least keep your comparison balls to balls.

Silly Newbie
Jul 25, 2007
How do I?

evilpicard posted:

I find it strange that the so called social media companies appear to actively make it difficult to have a conversation.

Social media companies aren't there to facilitate conversation, they're there to organize captured advertising demographics, that they then get paid to let people advertise at.
Or collect the personal information of their users, but it amounts to the same thing.
Actual conversations would run contrary to this, as individuals who have good conversations together might also do so off of the platform, and then nobody wins.

Hollandia
Jul 27, 2007

rattus rattus


Grimey Drawer

je1 healthcare posted:

Why the heck would they think that....? Pitbulls? Did they just pick a random breed? My brother owns one and she's a sweetheart
Here we go

Chamale
Jul 11, 2010

I'm helping!



Betty Wight posted:

Is a pitbull without balls more violent than other dogs without balls. I mean at least keep your comparison balls to balls.

I don't have the data to answer that, unless you've got a chart of the number of pitbulls with and without balls compared to other breeds

Mx.
Dec 16, 2006

I'm a great fan! When I watch TV I'm always saying "That's political correctness gone mad!"
Why thankyew!


what is the average number of balls in the dog population

MarcusSA
Sep 23, 2007

Mx. posted:

what is the average number of balls in the dog population

No more than 2

Betty Wight
Jan 1, 2022

Mx. posted:

what is the average number of balls in the dog population

Between 0 and 2.

Mx.
Dec 16, 2006

I'm a great fan! When I watch TV I'm always saying "That's political correctness gone mad!"
Why thankyew!


you people are terrible statisticians

SirSamVimes
Jul 21, 2008

~* Challenge *~


I didn't know whether to post this here or the r/relationships thread but I have settled on both.

Women don't want nice guys, they want Bill Cipher

quote:

For context me (23M) and my gf (21F) have been together for about 2 years now. We like to joke around and I've got pretty thick skin but its gone too far at this point. I knew straight up my gf had a type for super masculine assholes but it hasn't really come up that much and I was sure she's happier in a relationship with a guy who actually cares abt here. But recently her ""type"" is getting on my nerves and I think she's taking it way too far.

Me and my gf like to watch shows together and right now we're watching this cartoon thing called Gravity Falls. Both of us grew up in like countryside areas and we found it pretty amusing to watch and obviously her sexual wants didn't come up at first because it starts with just kids solving mysteries and poo poo, sort of like Scooby Doo.

That is until this new "villain" character shows up, I guess bc they needed things to be more dramatic or something. If you haven't watched the show, Bill Cipher is this evil Illumanti triangle guy who's meant to be like "suave" or whatever and mostly runs around doing typical villain stuff. There is literally NOTHING physically or sexually attractive about him. He's a literal TRIANGLE with a giant eye and sticks for feet who talks like he's Mickey loving Mouse.[/s[po;er\ So now naturally my gf keeps talking about how she'd "let [spoiler]Bill Cipher rail her" and that he's so handsome and charismatic. I think she talks about him more than me at this point and watching the show with her feels like a chore.

One day she said something that really got on my nerves (can't remember what) and I snapped. I told her if she was soooo into misogynistic jerks she should just leave me for Bill Cipher. She got mad and told me I was overreacting, that I've never had a problem with her joking around before and that I've said similar things about women on TV. The difference is that the women I like tend to look like hotter versions of her while her fantasies consist pretty much exclusively of strong, muscled douchebags with sharp jawlines and resting bitch face. I want to believe she likes me for me but I guess these days that's hard to come by. I've been trying to reach out but her texts always come across as flippant, like she can't believe she could ever have said something wrong.

I don't know what to do at this point. I've been feeling pretty angry with myself and humanity as a whole so I thought I'd just come on here and ask if anyone has had a similar experience. I don't want to apologise because I honestly don't think I did anything wrong given the situation. Nobody should be constantly talking about how sexy the guys she likes are, especially if they're all macho dicks who, let's be honest, would never date her in real life. Does anyone know what to do here because I'm really hating the situation we're in.

Sentient Data
Aug 31, 2011

My molecule scrambler ray will disintegrate your armor with one blow!
The door was wide open to get a tophat and yellow contacts to cosplay as someone with a spine in order to let your partner enjoy herself, but gently caress THAT NOISE BETTER BE INTIMIDATED BY A TRIANGLE

HopperUK
Apr 29, 2007

Why would an ambulance be leaving the hospital?

I'd be interested to hear what his harmless little crushes are.

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Kevin DuBrow
Apr 21, 2012

The uruk-hai defender has logged on.

SirSamVimes posted:

Women don't want nice guys, they want Bill Cipher



The hell? Why does this guy spend so much time ranting about buff dudes with chisled features when this is the character she wants to gently caress?

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