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I can't recommend anyone read Homestuck who missed it, but Problem Sleuth is absolutely worth reading. According to my 10-year-old memory of it, I guess. It contains a lot of the elements that were good in Homestuck -- wacky game-mechanic jokes gradually building on themselves into a ridiculous pile of unserious-but-spectacular theatrics and lore. All in a much, much shorter arc (it was produced entirely within a year), wrapped up satisfyingly enough. And no chatlogs. It used the "reader suggestions" gimmick the whole way through, though by the end there were so many suggestions that Hussie could essentially do whatever he wanted by choosing which to use (and that was probably a good thing at that point). I've been meaning to reread it.
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nimby posted:Am I in the minority for never having read Homestuck? The entire thing completely passed me by, don't think I'd even heard of it before it was done. I read a smidge of Problem Sleuth when it was still going, but never made it past the first few pages of Homestuck
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nimby posted:Am I in the minority for never having read Homestuck? The entire thing completely passed me by, don't think I'd even heard of it before it was done. I made an earnest attempt years before Flash went kaput, and also because a friend of mine recommended it to me, but I stopped really early on because it wasn't gripping me and knowing there was a ton ahead didn't help. Anything I happen to know about Homestuck is entirely through other things on the internet and promptly forgotten until the next time I see it again.
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It was the troll avatars all over the place on here that finally got me to read Homestuck. I wanted to know what the gently caress was up with this 'Vriska' I was seeing everywhere.
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nimby posted:Am I in the minority for never having read Homestuck? The entire thing completely passed me by, don't think I'd even heard of it before it was done.
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Mister Beeg posted:I was familiar with it, and I did at least read most of "Sweet Bro and Hella Jeff", but otherwise I never paid attention to "Homestuck" Same. By the time I really heard of it, it was too loving giant and it became one of those "I'll read that one of these days when I have time" sort of things. Then Flash shut down and apparently a lot of the whole archive was hosed up and then I was like "well I guess I don't have to worry about reading Homestuck any more  "
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nimby posted:Am I in the minority for never having read Homestuck? The entire thing completely passed me by, don't think I'd even heard of it before it was done. I also never read it. I must have seen a bunch of troll avatars but never bothered to check where they were from because the art didn't grab me. Gunnerkrigg, on the other hand, that also is a thing that had a lot of avatars and I did get interested in it because of those.
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I couldn't get into Problem Sleuth so when I saw he was starting a new comic, I wasn't very interested, lol. I appreciate I'm in the minority of Problem Sleuth dislikers though.
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I got in in the early days because I did a lot of CYOA stuff (writing it myself back in the days when that was super popular on forums) and I specifically did a CYOA animated comic (called Strike the Earth, it was based on Dwarf Fortress and I posted it to those forums) - and against that background it was impossible not to hear about MSPA and have people telling me to read it. Honestly, I liked Homestuck from pretty much beginning to end. The "new kids" was the worst part but even they ended up growing on me by the end. I am one of those people who unabashedly loved it all. I also never really got confused or anything about what was happening, and I enjoyed that the whole thing turned into a big metacommentary on fandom and the internet in general because I've always been a sucker for that stuff. But mostly I love it because the MSPA forums became the home of all of the best CYOA stuff on the internet, and I mourn its death because since it died I have no idea where that stuff happens anymore, or even if it happens. It probably doesn't, and I loved that stuff.
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GlyphGryph posted:But mostly I love it because the MSPA forums became the home of all of the best CYOA stuff on the internet, and I mourn its death because since it died I have no idea where that stuff happens anymore, or even if it happens. It probably doesn't, and I loved that stuff. From what I've gathered that's just kind of the way of things now, everybody abandoned forums and individual websites for social media and it's hard to imagine a CYOA on Twitter. I've heard Sufficient Velocity still does them but I don't even know what that site's about or if it's a government psy-op or something I've been doing my own since 2017 (Blood is Mine until 2019, MDA ongoing); it's no Homestuck but I try to gently caress around and experiment when I can (and it's kind of my job, at this point)    There's probably like a billion CYOA sites out there but without fat stacks of ad cash on hand they're basically invisible, I know at least a few people on my discord started up similar sites but struggled to get any kind of views. I was at least lucky enough to have started when Project Wonderful was still around, so I got a bit of a head start before the dark times began in earnest--I'd rather be waterboarded than try to build an audience from scratch now. Lunatic Sledge fucked around with this message at 19:26 on Feb 17, 2022 |
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We do have a CYOA subforum here. It's not going to launch the next Homestuck but it does exist.
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GlyphGryph posted:I got in in the early days because I did a lot of CYOA stuff (writing it myself back in the days when that was super popular on forums) and I specifically did a CYOA animated comic (called Strike the Earth, it was based on Dwarf Fortress and I posted it to those forums) - and against that background it was impossible not to hear about MSPA and have people telling me to read it. Honestly, I liked Homestuck from pretty much beginning to end. The "new kids" was the worst part but even they ended up growing on me by the end. I am one of those people who unabashedly loved it all. I also never really got confused or anything about what was happening, and I enjoyed that the whole thing turned into a big metacommentary on fandom and the internet in general because I've always been a sucker for that stuff. After the forums went down, some of the fans started their own replacement forum, and there was always a fan adventure mirror site where you could see fan adventures in the format of the original Homestuck website. Last time I checked (mid-2021), there was still activity on that mirror site. Sadly, not everything from the old forums got mirrored in time, but it's better than nothing.
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Lunatic Sledge posted:From what I've gathered that's just kind of the way of things now, everybody abandoned forums and individual websites for social media and it's hard to imagine a CYOA on Twitter. I've heard Sufficient Velocity still does them but I don't even know what that site's about or if it's a government psy-op or something For what it's worth, I really enjoy your project. Your characters are kind of heartfelt and sweet. And the setting is quite extensive and interesting. I just started reading that a year ago, when I randomly clicked the link in your avatar.
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Dr Subterfuge posted:We do have a CYOA subforum here. It's not going to launch the next Homestuck but it does exist. Memento of Kali deserved to be the next Homestuck.
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Otherkinsey Scale posted:Memento of Kali deserved to be the next Homestuck. Definitely, it does all sorts of metatextual shenanigans that give me a similar vibe (but personally I prefer the aesthetic and concept in Memento)
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cant cook creole bream posted:For what it's worth, I really enjoy your project. Your characters are kind of heartfelt and sweet. And the setting is quite extensive and interesting. Thank you, I often wonder if the avatar change was worth it so this makes me feel better lol I have a pretty good reader retention rate and reader-to-patreon ratio, my biggest obstacle is seriously just getting people to try it in the first place
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Girl Genius did the kind of twist that I least expected.
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SlothfulCobra posted:Girl Genius did the kind of twist that I least expected. The comic was random coloring of mold on a piece of cheese all along? I'd be pretty surprised by that twist.´ Honestly, don't tell me the real answer, I prefer my idea. cant cook creole bream fucked around with this message at 22:09 on Feb 19, 2022 |
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Perfect Tides, the new video game by Meredith Gran, the creator of Octopus Pie, is out today.
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What I'd like to read is Hussie's Silmarillion
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I haven't actually read the Silmarillion.
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i call it the 'silly million'
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Farg posted:i call it the 'silly million' The silly minon?
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Things are actually actually finally coming to a head in Vattu.
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The violence of the imperial periphery? In MY metropole? It could happen to you!
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I'm a weirdo who holds out for the printed versions of all of Evan Dahm's stuff, so as Vattu ends be sensitive about spoilers (or warn me if I should just stay out of this thread for a while and come back a week or two after the last update, no biggie)
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An interesting and still on-going thread about reading 20 years of Sinfest. https://twitter.com/bitterkarella/status/1498104642881798149
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Not to disrespect their efforts but that sounds like a very, very bad idea.
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They're just engaging in the time honored tradition of That Other Webcomics Thread, the brain damage will probably be minimal
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ConanThe3rd posted:Not to disrespect their efforts but that sounds like a very, very bad idea. We follow him weekly over in Polititoons and however unhinged you think he is, he's probably worse.
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Neito posted:We follow him weekly over in Polititoons and however unhinged you think he is, he's probably worse.
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Hostile V posted:The reader on Twitter or the creator of Sinfest? The Sinfest creator, sorry for the ambiguity.
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Sinfest was never really my thing, and I never regularly followed it, but every so often I'd end up on the website and read a bunch of strips (but never do a full archive binge). It was occasionally funny or interesting, and had real pretty art, but the core focuses of the strip just weren't interesting to me. I wasn't into the comic's perspective on religion or the sexism (which it kept looking at both sides of, both criticizing and perpetuating as the writer warred with his ideas on arousal) or the rap stuff. A lot of things that I was also avoiding in my social life at the time. It could often go on long diversions away from its normal themes, especially when trying to channel some Calvin and Hobbes spirit, but it kept coming back, so the comic never fully snagged me like Schlock Mercenary did. It also was one of the big webcomics trying to be newspaper strips. I think most of those have died out or changed format by this point. Sluggy Freelance and Kevin and Kell are some of the last survivors. It's not just that new strips aren't being syndicated so that nobody has any real hope of becoming a "proper" newspaper cartoonist, it's the newer generations of creators just not holding any importance to the format of horizontal newspaper strips in general. A lot of newer comics will even tend to occasionally borrow the japanese-style vertical "4-koma" format for when they want a smaller strip rather than doing horizontal strips.
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Hostile V posted:An interesting and still on-going thread about reading 20 years of Sinfest. This is really fascinating and does a good job of highlighting what changes as the years go by with the storytelling and the artist's views. After the first 10 years or so is when I must have stopped reading because I no longer recognize the strips or some of the new characters and plotlines. I think my favorite post in specific is the one that calls out the strip for being what is essentially the characters from a political comic strip, but what they do after their appearance.
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SlothfulCobra posted:It also was one of the big webcomics trying to be newspaper strips. I think most of those have died out or changed format by this point. Sluggy Freelance and Kevin and Kell are some of the last survivors. It's not just that new strips aren't being syndicated so that nobody has any real hope of becoming a "proper" newspaper cartoonist, it's the newer generations of creators just not holding any importance to the format of horizontal newspaper strips in general. A lot of newer comics will even tend to occasionally borrow the japanese-style vertical "4-koma" format for when they want a smaller strip rather than doing horizontal strips. Didn't Kurtz make a big stab at trying to be syndicated for a while, only to be repeatedly told 'no thank you?'
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for a long while, webcomics were viewed as (and thought of themselves) as lesser comics that were intended either entirely as a hobby or as a gateway to a "real" comic job. the early paths for external validation came down to independent publishing (through an established publisher; this is pre-kickstarter) or newspaper syndication. a desire for newspaper syndication is so foreign to me i have trouble even conceptualizing it but these types made up a not-insignificant portion of webcomics. weird times
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Dawgstar posted:Didn't Kurtz make a big stab at trying to be syndicated for a while, only to be repeatedly told 'no thank you?' this is way understating the length and obsessive intensity he brought to that. it was weird even back when the ceiling for webcomics success was a steady $4 a year and sharing a webring with Pupkin A Wizard of Goatse fucked around with this message at 00:10 on Mar 5, 2022 |
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