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Caidin posted:I thought all the rats got all the ninja poo poo from Notjapan. I'm just going off of the fan wiki so it may not be fully correct but according to https://warhammerfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Clan_Eshin it was a combination of Cathay, Nippon and Ind that they learned all their ninja skills in. Assassinations they learned particularly in Cathay: quote:Of all of Clan Eshin's warriors, though, the assassins are the most feared and reviled. These Skaven are masters in all of the techniques learned in distant Cathay and bring to bear an incredible array of fighting techniques that allow them to eclipse the greatest human killers. [1a] Cathay is also where Clan Eshin's wizards learned "dark arts" (Realistically I bet that prior to this game making Cathay an established thing, these 'far east' countries were all used by GW interchangably) e: Also if you start a Zhao Ming campaign, the first fight is against a Clan Eshin army 
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Kestral posted:For folks playing Slaanesh, hold off on researching the technology Everlasting Gift until the patch hits. It claims to add +25 Devotees from Gift of Slaanesh; what it actually does is give you +5 devotees, and disable all other effects from Gift. This is a simple fix for CA so it'll definitely be in the patch, but until then, watch out. Slaanesh currently has some issues. Like I have two cults set up in Nordland, And despite having buildings set up that should give me 11 Suductive influence with Nordland, it's only counting 6.
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I'm really not liking the tower spam aspect of sieges
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Omnicarus posted:I'm really not liking the tower spam aspect of sieges Why you got to capture the points to get rid of them. Also for some reason Warhammer 3 is capping me at 10000 less ram then is available.
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Omnicarus posted:I'm really not liking the tower spam aspect of sieges It can be fun while you are defending. I managed to hold off some pretty good size enemy forces just using the garrison and a bunch of tower / barrier trickery. The tiny paths and towers and barricades make attacking minor settlements take way more time though.
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There's a decent chance I'll end up using a mod to get rid of minor settlement battles altogether a lot of the time. They were a cool idea, and I don't think it'll be an always on mod, but the implementation does make it kind of a pain, and now field battles aren't common enough. Obviously I'm open to patches making the system better too, by making towers less spammable and especially fixing some pathfinding stuff.
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I really feel like the model for sieges/settlement battles should be Any random minor settlement -> field battle as is appropriate for the region/location Province capital -> unwalled settlement battle Major/Important settlements/specified fortresses -> unique walled settlement battle, low number of these and selectively placed
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I have had much more field battles then I used. The AI is less cowardly.
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The game is a little ridiculous right now. The AI has the hate boner for the player but it's also scared of field battles, so I see like 4 AI armies sailing towards me and then they all immediately run away when I march my army back. Then they come back when I move my army away to do something.
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I like how messy and chaotic the campaign map gets after the chaos incursions start. It adds to the feeling that everything is just on the verge of spinning out of control. Can't wait to see how hosed it gets when they drop another dozen LLs onto the map with their own weird objectives. Edit: Also just can't wait to get more objectives. Not really into the Macguffin race. Kinda feels like I'm playing Civ with only the space race win condition enabled. Randallteal fucked around with this message at 20:10 on Feb 18, 2022 |
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MonsterEnvy posted:I have had much more field battles then I used. The AI is less cowardly. It's weird how we can play the same game but see different results. Maybe it's the auto resolve % of our armies changing the AI behaviour?
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Doomykins posted:Cathay ez mode? This... does not match my Cathay play though at all. Normal battles difficulty may be boosting peasant spearmen vs ogres? The caravan raids could be a touch harder, but I haven't gotten any free units to add - that seems super advantageous. The item that spawns 2 immortal units sounds insanely strong. Sometimes you highroll loot and it makes the game too easy, it kinda sounds like that might be the case here? I'm digging the gently caress outta Cathay, Ying/Yang balance in both campaign (+40 growth so good) and battle maps. It's not a buff only mechanic which is really interesting, and individual elements can be out of wack but still work as part of the whole. Also the rice field battle maps :chefkiss: Dragons don't give a gently caress about your petty gods. Praise to the Matriarch. gently caress that stupid rear end bear, should've been a snow leopard.
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Wish there was a dedicated 'Switch Weapons' button for hybrid units or archers or whatever. Alt-click is fine but even so a toggle would be nice
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any idea how to make money as daemons? just by fightin?
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I've found Cathay pretty easy-mode for the campaign at least if you spam archers when playing as Miao. She has enough ways to buff archers that peasant archers can carry you through tons of things. By level 12ish you can give all archers/crossbowmen in her army 20% range, -20% reload time, and 9% missile strength (Sure Aim 3/3, Imposing Range, and Persistent Fire skills). Combine that with her being able to transform into a beefy lightning dragon and she can charge in and disrupt entire enemy lines while a large stack of archers whittles them down - you can throw in some gunners for early anti-armor and replace them with celestial crossbows when you're at T5. Unrelated but lmao Great Bastion defense battles are so easy. Not sure if they all use the same map but the one I just did a few times has 2 tower spots where a Level 4 explosion tower can shoot from to hit the victory point. I just had a force of 1400 Kurgan Warband chaos marauders attack my Garrison of ~6 units that were all at 25% strength. I built explosion towers everywhere I could and placed 1 unit within firing range of each one to hold the enemy up while they got exploded. They made it to the cap point when I had one single unit of under 10 archers left but the two explosion towers that could shoot the cap point tore their lord and the rest of their army apart before they could cap it. The only problem is they happen so frequently and to do all of that, I just built towers, placed units, then let the game play out on fast-forward without any input from me and it still took a while. DaysBefore posted:Wish there was a dedicated 'Switch Weapons' button for hybrid units or archers or whatever. Alt-click is fine but even so a toggle would be nice F switches between ranged and melee weapons, it can be rebound in the Battle keybinds settings ("Toggle Melee Mode") and there's a clickable button for it on the bottom menu when you have a ranged unit selected in battle. What I would love is if hybrid units would just switch themselves to melee mode when enemies got into melee range  Maybe that has been changed but it used to not happen
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Communist Thoughts posted:any idea how to make money as daemons? just by fightin? I'm on turn 54 or so on Skarbrand and I swear I've had like around 40k banked for the last half but that's fighting constantly and I've taken over like a 1/4 of the map not counting chaos lands, killed off n'kari, and even managed to pop in a portal at the last second and get a soul. I've got a second stack online now but if you look at Khorne's mechanics you just build little citadels everywhere and let the enemy raid you while your army just does whatever it wants. They need a significant stack or probably two to take your towns. No idea if other chaos plays this way.
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The mod I want most in this world is one that will keep the UI scaled up so I can read the text but not make the pointer arrow all greasus
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I just started Cathay and I've been really liking them! It helps that the land is really nice-looking, and for some reason my system isn't chugging as much as yesterday with Tzeentch. Could be a VFX thing. Miao Ying sure has that Imrik energy though (Edit: maybe it's a dragon thing!)
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Substandard posted:It can be fun while you are defending. I managed to hold off some pretty good size enemy forces just using the garrison and a bunch of tower / barrier trickery. The tiny paths and towers and barricades make attacking minor settlements take way more time though. It's definitely a push to make small settlements tougher to crack. In the previous games you basically took one look at the numerical balance of power and could tell if you were going to win with a 99% accuracy rate. Here the defenses play a good role in giving you half a chance without having to either shove defensive structures in every place or camp out an army nearby. And if you are truly overwhelming the town anyways you can just autocomplete.
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mmmhmm yes, Demon Prince Butt Stuff, swallower of worlds
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something rotten in kislev is a wild ride and despite being a "one sitting" campaign is like a fifteen hour epic I recommend you play it on normal/hard, or normal/normal if you have a particular aversion to soul grinders. that said, mp campaign works extremely well, we had an issue where one of us (me actually) randomly dropped by it took like a minute tops to rehost from the save and keep trucking. that said, I can see it being a pain for the larger games and, more importantly, games where you aren't explicitly locked into co-op.
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Have they ever stated why there's no advisor in multiplayer, now or in the past? I'm new to all these factions, so it would be great to hear their mechanics. This game really doesn't like alt tab. Crashes about 1/3 of the time I'd say. What's the best resource to learn about army comps?
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I finally found the notification settings, for anyone else looking for it it's this tiny circle in the bottom right corner
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Randarkman posted:I really feel like the model for sieges/settlement battles should be Yeah they aren't as fun as I had hoped for. I guess they are way better to defend but attacking them is a pain and you have to attack so many. I miss field battles. Though also this game's performance is awful, especially compared to war2, to the point that I am strongly considering waiting for an optimization patch because I'd like to play without it looking like poo poo, when I can run the previous game and Three Kingdoms (a game that looks far, far better) with no issues.
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Sinteres posted:There's a decent chance I'll end up using a mod to get rid of minor settlement battles altogether a lot of the time. They were a cool idea, and I don't think it'll be an always on mod, but the implementation does make it kind of a pain, and now field battles aren't common enough. Obviously I'm open to patches making the system better too, by making towers less spammable and especially fixing some pathfinding stuff. A cool mod would be to turn on minor settlement battles once the minor settlement hits tier 3
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KingKapalone posted:What's the best resource to learn about army comps? Not sure about a good resource, but a couple good rules of thumb for Total Warhammer:
e: After setting Fog to Low and switching to FXAA instead of TAA this game has waaaaaaay better performance than WH2 ever did for me. The biggest deal is the AI turn processing times - WH2 Mortal Empires turns took like a full minute to process, and even on Vortex they were way slower than in 3K, but I'm getting turn end speeds similar to 3k here. deep dish peat moss fucked around with this message at 21:51 on Feb 18, 2022 |
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1st_Panzer_Div. posted:This... does not match my Cathay play though at all. Normal battles difficulty may be boosting peasant spearmen vs ogres? The caravan raids could be a touch harder, but I haven't gotten any free units to add - that seems super advantageous. The item that spawns 2 immortal units sounds insanely strong. Sometimes you highroll loot and it makes the game too easy, it kinda sounds like that might be the case here? It's incredibly useful, though Meow also has a green for +12% ward save. There's also the guaranteed purples from the caravan and the game throws an alchemist at you for +magic find for an early freebie quest. Now the caravan pick ups, that was PURE luck and really blew the early scale. +3 dudes when you're being bullied by Ogre 6 stacks is a joke. You can even get like armor piercing gun-axe dudes from Kislev, my back up caravan(confed) got 2 of those on its first turn out.
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So I played for two hours yesterday and everything ran smooth as butter at 60+ FPS on ultra, then I boot it up today and it's absolutely making GBS threads itself, lagging and frame dropping on the campaign map and even in the lord select screen. I even turned some settings down and that seems to have made it worse. Anyone else encounter this?
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deep dish peat moss posted:Not sure about a good resource, but a couple good rules of thumb for Total Warhammer: ah yes play every army like empire
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Yeah I wanted to like Nurgle but he's pretty boring
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Collapsing Farts posted:Are you guys playing the tutorial on very hard difficulties or something? I felt really powerful with kislev. I basically avoided all the cavalry though and just massed infantry non-tutorial Kislev has a different unit roster for some reason, with a near total lack of anti-large units. instead of the armored spearmen from the tutorial you get great weapons, and the only units with the anti-large tag are the garbage t1 spear/archers and the very expensive ice guard. basically everyone else has some kind of cheap spears to fill out their line, but the faction described as being on the front line against Norsca/Chaos and their various large units doesn't. Communist Thoughts posted:It might only annoy me but its a shame that all the demon characters sound the same with a booming evil voice even the cheerful fat man and sexy androgynous one I think some of the voices might be busted, the ice witch in the prologue was using some generic dude voice.
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deep dish peat moss posted:Not sure about a good resource, but a couple good rules of thumb for Total Warhammer: There's literally a faction with zero ranged units, and another one that has exactly one... which is high-tier, a single entity, and plays out as a hybrid anyway. I think your assumptions are a bit dated, friend.
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orangelex44 posted:There's literally a faction with zero ranged units, and another one that has exactly one... which is high-tier, a single entity, and plays out as a hybrid anyway. I think your assumptions are a bit dated, friend. There have also been factions in TWH1 and 2 with no ranged units, but that's why those are rules of thumb - they're generalized and apply to most, but not all, factions and situations. I'd say ranged is even more important in this one because they let you avoid a lot of settlement battle BS, and the factions without ranged have the deck stacked extra hard against them. Strong cav units existing still doesn't make Cav useful in this game currently because most of your fights are Settlement Battles where cav is generally useless, and even the strong stats on them don't give them the 3 Kingdoms engine's Cav Charge bonus. If they're strong without charging, just look at them as fast infantry - if they need to charge they're going to be of limited usefulness in this game. deep dish peat moss fucked around with this message at 21:58 on Feb 18, 2022 |
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it feels like WH3 is different in WH2 in that your starting situation pretty much allows you to or requires you to get a 20 stack ASAP, or a second army sooner than before. Finding that trying to stay slim and move around with your starting lord army alone really goes away around 15 turns, you should already have a 20 stack and a second force building at home to defend.
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Also there is a lot of cav in TWW3, especially in Slannesh's faction, that absolutely melts enemies.
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deep dish peat moss posted:There have also been factions in TWH1 and 2 with no ranged units, but that's why those are rules of thumb - they're generalized and apply to most, but not all, factions and situations.  e: for clarity sake, i'm not repeating there are non ranged armies i'm saying good luck
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