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cinci zoo sniper posted:Druzhba is not a gas pipeline. It’s an oil pipeline. Thanks for the correction. Got my hydrocarbons confused.
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Sir Bobert Fishbone posted:Thanks for the correction. Got my hydrocarbons confused. Now if only Russian state media would also receive such a correction, instead of publishing articles about Druzhba gas pipeline.
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KillHour posted:"...and therefore they have no choice but to let Ukraine burn to the ground" is the implication of that, and Russia knows it. there was at one point a real possibility of reaching some kind of finlandisation agreement which would probably have been the best practical solution for everyone involved. the window for that seems to be closing rather dramatically now, though
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Everyone's favorite lil' neocon is beating the war drums: https://twitter.com/marcorubio/status/1494788172626202629 Someone should pitch a peace deal to the parties involved by saying, "It'll make Marco Rubio really mad. You want to see him really mad, don't you?" There's a 100% chance it will work. As for Zelensky's conference, that might be off the table, but we'll see: https://twitter.com/NatashaBertrand/status/1494790685903491075
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Biden is taking now after being delayed almost an hour
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Yeah, this was pretty remarkable to hear during the statement and caused the press to go into a frenzy. The press corp pushed for clarification and he reiterated, "As of this moment, I'm convinced he has made the decision." QuoProQuid fucked around with this message at 23:10 on Feb 18, 2022 |
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For context on the reservists bit - it’s a regular occurrence, much like the nuke drills. Last year it happened in April.
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Feb 18, 2022 23:06
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AFAIK BARS reservists have had multiple rounds of mobilizations throughout the forces build-up, so it's not a major escalation indicator by itself beyond the timing. Everything else combined is, however.
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Oh yeah it’s definitely rescheduled in a far too convenient manner. Just saying that this isn’t the first in X years where they mobilise reservists.
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Last week we had a callout issued with an indicated 2 months guaranteed pay, which appears a novel addition to the BARS program. Also to expand, in an hypothetical conflict Rosguardia, OMON Federal Police, and Reservist units would be tasked with rear guard territorial control duties on locales captured by Russian regular forces, so the multiple rounds of mobilization have indicated an intent to take and hold territory.
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Oh wow things aren't looking good for my trip (or the people on the ground there). Triple digits of new posts isn't a good sign here. This seems pretty serious for Russia to just make up, but on the other hand, there's absolutely no reason for Ukraine to actually start poo poo right now when they have the whole country surrounded. I just don't see what they could possibly gain from this escalation.
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mobby_6kl posted:Oh wow things aren't looking good for my trip (or the people on the ground there). Triple digits of new posts isn't a good sign here. This is looking ugly enough that I really hope you’re not headed there for like a marrying friend or relative in hospital or some other thing you cannot walk away from.
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https://twitter.com/Reuters/status/1494686976527769603 NATO unity. mobby_6kl posted:Oh wow things aren't looking good for my trip (or the people on the ground there). Triple digits of new posts isn't a good sign here. Conspiratiorist fucked around with this message at 23:39 on Feb 18, 2022 |
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Majorian posted:Everyone's favorite lil' neocon is beating the war drums: As a non-American it is really nuts to see Rubio, McConnell etc. "parroting" the usual GOP anti-Russian line while you have Tucker Carlson on Fox News saying Russia has every right to do what it's doing, as well as calling Zelensky a dictator for jailing Viktor Medvedchuk, who is like Putin's number one ally in Ukraine and a preferred candidate of Putin's for the President of Ukraine some time in the future. Then you have the Trump family and we don't even need to discuss that. It is quite something.
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mobby_6kl posted:Oh wow things aren't looking good for my trip (or the people on the ground there). Triple digits of new posts isn't a good sign here. Biden just announced that US intelligence is confident that Putin has ordered the invasion. That can of course prove to be untrue, either them being wrong again or Putin deciding that he's spooked us enough and it's time to back off. But I would strongly recommend you do not travel to Ukraine for the next month, the chances of full-scale war are extremely high. Whatever cost that has to you personally I am very sorry, I've been fortunate to be present before 2 very close family members passed and if I wasn't able to be there I would have been devastated. But we've seen Russia shoot down a civilian airliner over Ukraine, the danger is immense right now.
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Yeah don't be another story of a goon who travelled into a warzone and then was never heard from again. I suspect even the people still firmly on the side that its all a bluff probably wouldn't stake their life on it.
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QuoProQuid posted:Yeah, this was pretty remarkable to hear during the statement and caused the press to go into a frenzy. Hot take, regardless if it's actually like a war will happen or not corporate-align media is going to sensationalize the hell of it for the next few weeks because it is absolutely in their best economic interest.
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I think you said earlier it’s just to take pictures of old churches so if you go through with this your story’s going to be like the dude who said he was going to walk across the American desert in the middle of summer with no training to raise awareness for depression and you’ll be made fun of for years to come
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Well no poo poo a bunch of poo poo just exploded after a day of heavily expanded shelling
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Alchenar posted:Yeah don't be another story of a goon who travelled into a warzone and then was never heard from again. I suspect even the people still firmly on the side that its all a bluff probably wouldn't stake their life on it. ...I'd certainly stake that no matter what happens, at no point is flying into Kyiv going to approach the danger of wandering into Syria on foot without your psych meds
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Alchenar posted:Yeah don't be another story of a goon who travelled into a warzone and then was never heard from again. I suspect even the people still firmly on the side that its all a bluff probably wouldn't stake their life on it. BIG FLUFFY DOG posted:I think you said earlier it’s just to take pictures of old churches so if you go through with this your story’s going to be like the dude who said he was going to walk across the American desert in the middle of summer with no training to raise awareness for depression and you’ll be made fun of for years to come Orthanc6 posted:Biden just announced that US intelligence is confident that Putin has ordered the invasion. That can of course prove to be untrue, either them being wrong again or Putin deciding that he's spooked us enough and it's time to back off. But I would strongly recommend you do not travel to Ukraine for the next month, the chances of full-scale war are extremely high. Whatever cost that has to you personally I am very sorry, I've been fortunate to be present before 2 very close family members passed and if I wasn't able to be there I would have been devastated. But we've seen Russia shoot down a civilian airliner over Ukraine, the danger is immense right now.
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Alchenar posted:Yeah don't be another story of a goon who travelled into a warzone and then was never heard from again. I suspect even the people still firmly on the side that its all a bluff probably wouldn't stake their life on it. Caro did somehow come back alive from that right? Unless there’s a second goon.
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Caro did indeed survive, although it doesn't sound like he's doing great, given that latest update. I hadn't realized he had been on Lions Led By Donkeys, which is a very fun podcast. I may give it a listen, but I dunno, it might make me sad.
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Caro will outlive us all. He cannot be killed
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Big Beef City posted:Well no poo poo a bunch of poo poo just exploded after a day of heavily expanded shelling Belarus, though? Usually Oligarch's wives would prefer something like Paris.
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OddObserver posted:Belarus, though? Usually Oligarch's wives would prefer something like Paris. Maybe she loved getting served champagne from Champagne oblast, Belarus on her last visit to Moscow.
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Didn't Caro get captured by Assad's forces and held in a torture facility? Last I heard he's living out of his car now in San Francisco
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Russian media is still full of making fun of invasion dates coming from the west right now, and there has not been any concerted effort to sell that war=good. Although maybe Putin doesn't care to pre-sell anything anymore and can always propaganda after.
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Rad Russian posted:Russian media is still full of making fun of invasion dates coming from the west right now, and there has not been any concerted effort to sell that war=good. Although maybe Putin doesn't care to pre-sell anything anymore and can always propaganda after. Its because official line this wouldn't be a war, it'd be a defensive action against Ukrainian aggression to protect the Russian citizens in Donbas.
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Majorian posted:Caro did indeed survive, although it doesn't sound like he's doing great, given that latest update. I hadn't realized he had been on Lions Led By Donkeys, which is a very fun podcast. I may give it a listen, but I dunno, it might make me sad. Caro is one of the SA stories I tell friends and family about because ifs both ridiculous enough to defy belief but also has enough coverage supporting it’s validity. I didn’t know there was still *more news* to the story. Thanks D&D.
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Conspiratiorist posted:Its because official line this wouldn't be a war, it'd be a defensive action against Ukrainian aggression to protect the Russian citizens in Donbas. Yeah, it seems the only common thread on that is that if "Ukraine with U.S. help" decides to "attack" Russians, then Putin is ready to respond. Why they would decide to attack now, after waiting months for Russia to assemble its forces is a mystery that's not addressed.
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Big Beef City posted:Well no poo poo a bunch of poo poo just exploded after a day of heavily expanded shelling None of that is anywhere near the Belarus border. Conspiratiorist posted:I'm just an idiot goon so you don't have to listen to me but this is 99% happening and it's going to be destructive on a level the world hasn't experienced in a long time. Change "world" to "Europe". Because otherwise this is just adorable in the most depressing way.
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Мировая звезда. I think Russia's disinformation ability is working fantastically. Feels like Putin is free to create whatever narrative he wants because we live in a post-truth world.
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Grape posted:None of that is anywhere near the Belarus border. Yes however it may be possible that the current events happening right now are influencing these actions, yeah??
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Rad Russian posted:Russian media is still full of making fun of invasion dates coming from the west right now, and there has not been any concerted effort to sell that war=good. Although maybe Putin doesn't care to pre-sell anything anymore and can always propaganda after. I think this analysis is good on that point. https://twitter.com/samagreene/status/1494730097269563394 https://twitter.com/samagreene/status/1494730100021071884 https://twitter.com/samagreene/status/1494730102051119107
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