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Qtotonibudinibudet
Nov 7, 2011



Omich poluyobok, skazhi ty narkoman? ya prosto tozhe gde to tam zhivu, mogli by vmeste uyobyvat' narkotiki

Crab Dad posted:

Most of our techs were NMCI Field Service Technicians with a heavy emphasis on PC repair and security software maintenance. However we have been asked to stop poaching from the NMCI FST pool for the time being. An understanding of how a network works is useful too.

i wonder how much networking expertise exists inside the military since it's a weird thing you could probably get pretty good at and coast in a MIC technician job for decades, but is of limited use in corporate america beyond a baseline unless you've lucked into one of the 20 or so jobs where you actively implement a network stack. somewhere in the bowels of a NMCI contractor is someone (probably multiple someones) who could make linux TCP/IP stack improvements but has fuckall reason to

quote:

OJT is super important because the ticketing system is so byzantine.

ah, so it is every ticketing system.

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Crab Dad
Dec 28, 2002

behold i have tempered and refined thee, but not as silver; as CRAB


CMYK BLYAT! posted:

i wonder how much networking expertise exists inside the military since it's a weird thing you could probably get pretty good at and coast in a MIC technician job for decades, but is of limited use in corporate america beyond a baseline unless you've lucked into one of the 20 or so jobs where you actively implement a network stack. somewhere in the bowels of a NMCI contractor is someone (probably multiple someones) who could make linux TCP/IP stack improvements but has fuckall reason to

ah, so it is every ticketing system.

It’s not in the current contract for stack improvements at our level. That’s pretty high up i would think. Our local network techs mostly just reconfigure switches after power losses and keep track and assign the IP and VLAN spreadsheet. Decent enough job for people new to the industry. I know they start at 72k with the ability to work from home but their current boss prefers office work.

Nick Soapdish
Apr 27, 2008


Nick Soapdish posted:

Just got an email from an LT CANREC looking for SELRES or IRR junior O for a two year recall to NY district to recruit. Almost want to email back if he knows something I don't since I left to reserves two years ago as an ISC.

Followup: I just got a copy of TNR in the mail at my new address and I never got that since separating in 2020. Very weird.

Thronde
Aug 4, 2012

Fun Shoe

Nick Soapdish posted:

Followup: I just got a copy of TNR in the mail at my new address and I never got that since separating in 2020. Very weird.

Looks like your NFAAS update finally went through. Also, update your NFAAS, you're on the hit list.

Nick Soapdish
Apr 27, 2008


https://twitter.com/USNINews/status/1494487188267884545?s=20&t=TKJliPDg0mB54RnFmy8sWA

Senior, 3 Chiefs, and an Ensign - real dumb idea y'all

Red Crown
Oct 20, 2008

Pretend my finger's a knife.

People got seriously hurt. Throw the book at them. Hope it was worth whatever clout they got I guess?

Howard Phillips
May 4, 2008

His smile; it shines in the darkest of depths. There is hope yet.

Red Crown posted:

People got seriously hurt. Throw the book at them. Hope it was worth whatever clout they got I guess?

These four had nothing to do with the mishap though. Pilot's fault.

maffew buildings
Apr 29, 2009

too dumb to be probated; not too dumb to be autobanned
When things like this happen my first question is always "How did this coming out make the Navy look bad?" rather than questioning how the members hosed up.

Godholio
Aug 28, 2002

Does a bear split in the woods near Zheleznogorsk?

Howard Phillips posted:

These four had nothing to do with the mishap though. Pilot's fault.

That is an extremely premature accusation to make.

IncredibleIgloo
Feb 17, 2011





I would assume it is the fault of the beleaguered death trap of an airplane.

kill me now
Sep 14, 2003

Why's Hank crying?

'CUZ HE JUST GOT DUNKED ON!

Howard Phillips posted:

These four had nothing to do with the mishap though. Pilot's fault.

Releasing a video of people getting seriously hurt without authorization is pretty hosed up.

Howard Phillips
May 4, 2008

His smile; it shines in the darkest of depths. There is hope yet.

kill me now posted:

Releasing a video of people getting seriously hurt without authorization is pretty hosed up.

Getting in trouble for releasing the video is deserved but this is a separate issue. These four are not the ones who hurt the people or the plane.

Elendil004
Mar 22, 2003

The prognosis
is not good.


You think they'll crack down hard on personal cell phones on ships and installations now?

Wibla
Feb 16, 2011

Elendil004 posted:

You think they'll crack down hard on personal cell phones on ships and installations now?

lol no

IncredibleIgloo
Feb 17, 2011





The invasion of the Ukraine is gonna be livestreamed. I think at a certain point the absolute massive amount of quality cameras that are incredibly small is just gonna change the face of the game. I mean, it already has.

SquirrelyPSU
May 27, 2003


The ILARTS channel is broadcast throughout the ship. Gonna just take a guess that someone forwarded some stuff to TMZ if people are getting charged for it.

LtCol J. Krusinski
May 7, 2013

by Fluffdaddy

IncredibleIgloo posted:

The invasion of the Ukraine is gonna be livestreamed. I think at a certain point the absolute massive amount of quality cameras that are incredibly small is just gonna change the face of the game. I mean, it already has.

It’s just Ukraine. Not “The Ukraine”.

Since 1991, at least.

A.o.D.
Jan 15, 2006

LtCol J. Krusinski posted:

It’s just Ukraine. Not “The Ukraine”.

Since 1991, at least.

Why?

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose

Do you call, say, Mexico "the Mexico" too?

Using a "the" before a place name usually implies a region instead of a country ("the tri-state area", "the Midwest", etc.), and "the Ukraine" is used consistently in Russian propaganda to delegitimize Ukraine's status as an sovereign nation.

Vincent Van Goatse fucked around with this message at 18:54 on Feb 20, 2022

Stultus Maximus
Dec 21, 2009

USPOL May

"the" implies that it's a region or territory of Russia. This is mirrored by the Russian use of the preposition "Ha" which is used for subnational regions instead of "B" which is used for countries.

Godholio
Aug 28, 2002

Does a bear split in the woods near Zheleznogorsk?

kill me now posted:

Releasing a video of people getting seriously hurt without authorization is pretty hosed up.

That's not why they're in trouble; they got charged because they released a USG video without approval. The dudes recording with a cell phone from the fantail were not charged.

AlternateNu
May 5, 2005

ドーナツダメ!

Vincent Van Goatse posted:

Using a "the" before a place name usually implies a region instead of a country ("the tri-state area", "the Midwest", etc.), and "the Ukraine" is used consistently in Russian propaganda to delegitimize Ukraine's status as an sovereign nation.

Which is funny considering there are no articles in Russian. :v:

TCD
Nov 13, 2002

Every step, a fucking adventure.

Vincent Van Goatse posted:

Do you call, say, Mexico "the Mexico" too?

Yes, the United Mexican States similar to why we also use "the" when in reference to the U.S.

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose

TCD posted:

Yes, the United Mexican States similar to why we also use "the" when in reference to the U.S.

That's not what I was talking about though. Or do you actually use the phrase "the Mexico" verbatim? What about "the Canada" or "the Sweden"?

Godholio
Aug 28, 2002

Does a bear split in the woods near Zheleznogorsk?
"The Ukraine" is literally short for "the Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic," so it's insulting as hell. "Ukraine" is the name of the modern nation since it gained independence in 1991. Instead of arguing, just admit you didn't know (I only learned this within the last decade) and don't be an rear end to an entire nation out of obstinacy.

Anita Dickinme
Jan 24, 2013


Grimey Drawer

Godholio posted:

"The Ukraine" is literally short for "the Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic," so it's insulting as hell. "Ukraine" is the name of the modern nation since it gained independence in 1991. Instead of arguing, just admit you didn't know (I only learned this within the last decade) and don't be an rear end to an entire nation out of obstinacy.

I just found out about this as I was reading this post.

TCD
Nov 13, 2002

Every step, a fucking adventure.

Vincent Van Goatse posted:

That's not what I was talking about though. Or do you actually use the phrase "the Mexico" verbatim? What about "the Canada" or "the Sweden"?

My point is, if you're discussing the significance of Ukraine dropping the English article "the", "Mexico" isn't the best example, because the official name of "Mexico" would likely be correct to use "the" i.e. Estados Unidos Mexicanos (which would probably be said los Estados Unidos Mexicanos), and that has it's own history around the official name vs colloquial name. https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/mexico-is-technically-the-united-mexican-states-and-isnt-too-happy-about-it-143048853/ "Mexico" has a little bit of a challenge in that when we usually reference say, "Germany" it traces back to Federal Republic of Germany whereas you get Mexican or States with "Mexico". Estados Unidos Mexicanos is also a little similar to Estados Unidos de America, which has it's own issues.

SerthVarnee
Mar 13, 2011

It has been two zero days since last incident.
Big Super Slapstick Hunk
Doesn't that just make Vincent Van Goatse's point even more clear?

If The Mexico would be a reference to the United Mexican States, then it follows that The Ukraine would be a reference to the Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic which is a bit more defunct these days.

MarcusSA
Sep 23, 2007

Maybe it’s just how some people talk.

Like I’m going to the rite aid.

I’m going to the Starbucks.

It’s not correct but I still say it. I don’t think the OP is intentionally insulting a nation of people because of an incorrect use of the word the.

Crab Dad
Dec 28, 2002

behold i have tempered and refined thee, but not as silver; as CRAB


Wont matter what we call it shortly because its gonna be back to being the satellite state of Russia again.

MarcusSA
Sep 23, 2007

Crab Dad posted:

Wont matter what we call it shortly because its gonna be back to being the satellite state of Russia again.

Also this tbh.

No one is gonna do anything and hopefully there isn’t a tremendous loss of life.

It’s gonna be bad though and I feel sorry for the people that are getting 0 support.

Jimmy Smuts
Aug 8, 2000

:(
Best case scenario, Ukraine successfully fights off Russia (unlikely but you never know). Likely scenario, Ukraine or chunks of it get annexed by Russia. Worst case scenario, the fighting spills into NATO countries and Article 5 gets invoked, and we all die of extreme sunshine

Howard Phillips
May 4, 2008

His smile; it shines in the darkest of depths. There is hope yet.
The Ukraine is literally half Russians, if that wasn't true there wouldn't be hundreds of thousands of ethnic Russian speaking separatists fighting for their freedom.

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Stultus Maximus
Dec 21, 2009

USPOL May

MarcusSA posted:

Maybe it’s just how some people talk.

Like I’m going to the rite aid.

I’m going to the Starbucks.

It’s not correct but I still say it. I don’t think the OP is intentionally insulting a nation of people because of an incorrect use of the word the.

Maybe once you're corrected in how to say someone's name you say it the right way.


Howard Phillips posted:

The Ukraine is literally half Russians, if that wasn't true there wouldn't be hundreds of thousands of ethnic Russian speaking separatists fighting for their freedom.

gently caress off tankie.

M_Gargantua
Oct 16, 2006

STOMP'N ON INTO THE POWERLINES

Exciting Lemon

Howard Phillips posted:

The Ukraine is literally half Russians, if that wasn't true there wouldn't be hundreds of thousands of ethnic Russian speaking separatists fighting for their freedom.

Ukraine.

Also I do not accept your propaganda, as it is stated to be deliberately misleading.

Howard Phillips
May 4, 2008

His smile; it shines in the darkest of depths. There is hope yet.
Not propaganda. I'm not taking any sides. But there are Russians living in Ukraine. Whether for generations before USSR or from Soviet times.

Godholio
Aug 28, 2002

Does a bear split in the woods near Zheleznogorsk?

Howard Phillips posted:

Not propaganda. I'm not taking any sides. But there are Russians living in Ukraine. Whether for generations before USSR or from Soviet times.

When you add a zero to the number of "freedom fighters" to jive with the official Russian story, it becomes propaganda. When you also deliberately type out the lovely version of the name immediately after a dozen posts pointing out why it's wrong, you've taken a side.

IncredibleIgloo
Feb 17, 2011





Sorry I only called it The Ukraine because of the scene in Seinfeld, not as some loving weird abstract way to confer that it is still a member of a nation that doesn't exist.

Grip it and rip it
Apr 28, 2020

Howard Phillips posted:

Not propaganda. I'm not taking any sides. But there are Russians living in Ukraine. Whether for generations before USSR or from Soviet times.

How do you define "russian" in this instance?

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LtCol J. Krusinski
May 7, 2013

by Fluffdaddy

Howard Phillips posted:

The Ukraine is literally half Russians, if that wasn't true there wouldn't be hundreds of thousands of ethnic Russian speaking separatists fighting for their freedom.

:stare:

You being serious, man?

Because… :stare:

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