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jadebullet posted:So I haven't started Ogres yet, but to Greaseass Goldtooth get his proper palanquin that he has for the model, or is he just a wheelbarrow boy the entire campaign? He's wheelbarrow boy. I guess a carpet of gnoblars would be challenging.
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My review of Cathay: Units are fun. They play roughly like a cross between Empire and the Dwarves. Most of the units have at least 80 armor. Good defensive infantry with lots of good ranged units and artillery. Main downside is limited magic choices and the lords & heroes are not great. The legendary lords are fantastic, but the generic lords and heroes are really fragile. No melee-focused lords/heroes like empire captains or thanes, etc. The compass system is interesting, but not really impactful. You will probably keep it in the same place most of the time and only occasionally spin it. The harmony system is neither good, nor bad. It's something extra that you need to keep track of. The bonuses are nice and it's not super hard to keep things balanced, but there aren't any interesting choices which stem from it. It's mostly just busywork but not to the point that it's annoying. Defending the Great Bastion is interesting. I don't know if it gets progressively harder, but you can park an army inside with - 65% upkeep. Every once in a while you need to venture beyond the wall to kill some kurgans in order to knock the threat meter down by 20%. I've yet to see a full-threat invasion because keeping the meter down isn't hard. At least not so far.
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Lord Koth posted:This is somewhat funny. Praag honestly seems like it would be a great map... for the empire. It has massive elevations right behind the walls which would be great for artillery, except kislev
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# ? Feb 20, 2022 01:40 |
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always attack every other LL in Tzeentch's wacky carousel if you get the chance, I have been punked there twice now, first by N'kari and then by Katarina after I didn't destroy them even though I had the chance because we weren't at war the first time I was just teleporting around randomly so fair enough, the second time I actively revealed as many sigils as I could and actually found the right portal fairly quickly, too bad that it was on my starting island and I couldn't get back there no matter what I did Katarina came in two turns after me and got to the end in like three jumps I'm absolutely livid rn, goddamn birdman bullshit
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# ? Feb 20, 2022 01:55 |
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brakeless posted:always attack every other LL in Tzeentch's wacky carousel if you get the chance, I have been punked there twice now, first by N'kari and then by Katarina after I didn't destroy them even though I had the chance because we weren't at war Just according to keikaku
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# ? Feb 20, 2022 02:03 |
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brakeless posted:always attack every other LL in Tzeentch's wacky carousel if you get the chance, I have been punked there twice now, first by N'kari and then by Katarina after I didn't destroy them even though I had the chance because we weren't at war One thing that you could do if you don't mind being cheaty, and honestly gently caress the demon realms. You can load a save from when you first entered and the path to the end will remain the same.
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# ? Feb 20, 2022 02:03 |
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Yeah I actually had a thank god for slaanesh realm mechanics moment when skarbrand was about to beat me so at least I got my third to last reward which was -1 turn to all global recruitment for ogres which ok hell yeah
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Skuzal posted:One thing that you could do if you don't mind being cheaty, and honestly gently caress the demon realms. You can load a save from when you first entered and the path to the end will remain the same. I'm just gonna outfit Miao with a triple gold chevron bullshit AP crossbow doomstack and pincushion the other contestants, starting with kairos
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# ? Feb 20, 2022 02:12 |
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Anyone know how I get more of the Cultist of Nurgle hero? I think I got one from an event but I can't figure out any way to get more.
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# ? Feb 20, 2022 02:17 |
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All of the cavalry I've used so far (Kislev and Cathay) has been completely worthless and just a waste of slots in an army. Is that true for other races?
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# ? Feb 20, 2022 02:21 |
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All the stuff I have seen so far is pretty bad stats wise and is entirely useful for speed and charge.
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# ? Feb 20, 2022 02:25 |
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If you're Ogres, play as Skrag because he actually can run down units and you'll get some decent fights rather than endless AI retreats. Skrag has the zoomies and the computer ain't ready for it.
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AnEdgelord posted:Geasus never had a Palanquin, just a horde of gnoblars crowd surfing him wherever he wanted to go Yeah, that. Does he have his hoard of Gnobblars at any point? Edit: new page answer makes me sad.
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# ? Feb 20, 2022 02:38 |
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lol Xen Long has an Astronomicon, it’s in the Cathayan tech tree
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# ? Feb 20, 2022 02:40 |
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I broke up with my girlfriend mid-vacation and all I want is to be back home playing Warhammer 3. I played the loving poo poo out of #2 during the pandemic and I'd definitely call it an All-Time Favorite Game at this point. I was on the last prologue battle yesterday when the game crashed and it was time to leave. I'm torn about what faction to do on my first campaign. The main appeal of these games for me is seeing a bunch of puny humans get overrun by different kinds of monsters, and the fact that 6/8 of the factions are different types of monsters isn't super interesting to me. Is there one that starts right on the humans' doorstep? My only real demand from CA was improved pathfinding during sieges, but I guess I'm out of luck. The pathing on open ground even seems weird sometimes. I remember it took my lord for-loving-ever to walk through one of my units, moving like he was wading through battle and not like he was walking past a bunch of guys who work for him. The ice lore sucks, right? I like the skating animation for the wizardess, though. How are the other new magics?
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# ? Feb 20, 2022 02:40 |
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Ice lore is great? Great slowdown ability which is ideal for giving you more time to shoot at people which stacks with frostbite, decent little cheap damage wind, and some utility/damage spells too.
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# ? Feb 20, 2022 02:45 |
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It's just great when I tell units to go on a capture point and they run in the opposite direction. No, uh, hang on, I'm checking my notes....it's the opposite of great.
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# ? Feb 20, 2022 02:51 |
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Defensive mode is also a bit borked. If you're fighting something with an sem and an animation takes it too far away it'll bug out.
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# ? Feb 20, 2022 03:01 |
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I don’t feel like humans are out of reach for most monster factions. Skarbrand doesn’t stay home, Nurgle is set up to invade Kislev, Slaanesh is in a corner and can head south pretty safely as well as direct mechanics relating to squishier races. Tzeentch has Cathay. Obviously ogres are Cathay or you are next to Altdorf. Also for Nurgle, cultists are at tier 3 minor settlement buildings took me a minute to find em Twigand Berries fucked around with this message at 03:08 on Feb 20, 2022 |
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All of the ME starts and presumed WH3 faction starts on the prototype IE map from the files. GEE, LOOK AT THAT GIANT CHORF-SHAPED HOLE IN THE DARKLANDS.
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# ? Feb 20, 2022 03:10 |
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Where the hell are you getting this money Karl Franz? I have smashed your full army stack 3 times, burned 2 of your cities to the ground, and you keep on coming? Dude is like the dang Terminator.
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# ? Feb 20, 2022 03:10 |
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What’s hilarious to me is that Khorne can explode exponentially like a virus while Nurgle has me playing every battle so I make sure I hunt down every last fleeing loving knoblar for sku…infections.
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# ? Feb 20, 2022 03:10 |
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Both kislev lores of magic have their uses. I like them.
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# ? Feb 20, 2022 03:11 |
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Funky See Funky Do posted:All of the cavalry I've used so far (Kislev and Cathay) has been completely worthless and just a waste of slots in an army. Is that true for other races? I've had a lot of success with War Bears and Khorne Juggernaut Cavalry edit: Gonkish posted:
I would no be shocked if the Daemon factions got moved around a lot more drastically for the IE map, especially because i'm not sure why you would add the Antarctic provinces if you were gonna put something there AnEdgelord fucked around with this message at 03:19 on Feb 20, 2022 |
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Gonkish posted:
At the center of the world……GOLD
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# ? Feb 20, 2022 03:13 |
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I’m sure skinks will do just fine vs Slaanesh
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# ? Feb 20, 2022 03:15 |
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AnEdgelord posted:I've had a lot of success with War Bears and Khorne Juggernaut Cavalry The monstrous cav is generally fine/great, but the actual horse mounted Kislev/Cathay cavalry have been noted by a bunch of people as not terribly useful. Jade Lancers are just pure junk, especially considering their price point, and Kislev horse cavalry don't have a good normal/AP damage split meaning they're liable to bounce off medium and heavy targets. People have been using the Tzeentch ponies though, so there's still at least one normal (not monstrous) cavalry unit that's considered decent.
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# ? Feb 20, 2022 03:21 |
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Those bad cav are economically good cav in MP. Once mods come out I will enjoy the cav more once I find an army cost cap mod.
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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:Where the hell are you getting this money Karl Franz? I have smashed your full army stack 3 times, burned 2 of your cities to the ground, and you keep on coming? Dude is like the dang Terminator. Gelt's clearly shipping him wealth from off-map.
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# ? Feb 20, 2022 03:24 |
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Yvonmukluk posted:Gelt's clearly shipping him wealth from off-map. Genuinely want to do a low-effort meme of a Terminator shouting "Summon the Elector Counts!"
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Gonkish posted:
Kislev is going to be loving cramped yeesh. I hope if this turns out to be close to the final IM map, that Norsca goes full tundra biome and not chaos shithole, so at least Kislev and Dorfs can occupy it.
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# ? Feb 20, 2022 03:32 |
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Funky See Funky Do posted:All of the cavalry I've used so far (Kislev and Cathay) has been completely worthless and just a waste of slots in an army. Is that true for other races? What difficulty are you playing? On normal my winged lancers reliably break infantry units.
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# ? Feb 20, 2022 03:33 |
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Third World Reagan posted:Those bad cav are economically good cav in MP. People aren't using Jade Lancers in MP either, and Peasant Horsemen also aren't used for much. Cathay might as well only have Longmas for how much the other two are used, and those aren't remotely economical. Kislev sees somewhat more use of the cheap cavalry, but even there it seems to be somewhat matchup specific and more weighted towards horse archers and Warsleds rather than melee/shock horse cavalry. This is also partially helped since a bunch of units currently in the Daemon/Ogre rosters don't have good armor, so the bad split doesn't matter as much. Lord Koth fucked around with this message at 03:37 on Feb 20, 2022 |
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Lord Koth posted:People aren't using Jade Lancers in MP either, and even Peasant Horsemen aren't being used for much. Cathay might as well only have Longmas for how much the other two are used, and those aren't remotely economical. Kislev sees somewhat more use of the cheap cavalry, but even there it seems to be somewhat matchup specific and more weighted towards horse archers and Warsleds rather than melee/shock horse cavalry. It is interesting that now we're getting more land battles in MP Cathay doesn't seem nearly as bad, the Harmony mechanic is really strong and having a full mixed unit force from the get-go makes them really strong. It seems that domination is playing to all their weaknesses at once which is what really hurts them there. I think Skaven are going to suffer very similarly and only won't be as bad out of the gate because they've already had like 3 rounds of DLC to patch up their roster. Cathay really seem to play like Skaven 2.0 with slightly less summon bullshit and slightly stronger line units.
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# ? Feb 20, 2022 03:38 |
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Gonkish posted:
Is there such a thing as Warhammer India? I know there's a Warhammer Japan though I don't know if its supposed to be on that map; looks like it's just off the edge if real life geography is anything to go by. Edit: Like it will never not be funny to me that Warhammer Canada is a bleak, nightmarish wasteland of ice and snow run by a cabal of sadomasochistic torture-slavers. Which I guess isn't technically inaccurate but like, did someone at GW have a bad vacation up here once or just really loving hated poutine or something? MechanicalTomPetty fucked around with this message at 03:53 on Feb 20, 2022 |
# ? Feb 20, 2022 03:46 |
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I'm really struggling with Katarina in my first campaign attempt. I'm playing on hard /normal and it's baffling to hear people breeze through these campaigns. Like the previous games, it seems like it's very critical to get XYZ done early on, otherwise your neighbors will sandbag and you'll never have a force strong enough to break out and hold territory beyond your little pocket.
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MechanicalTomPetty posted:Is there such a thing as Warhammer India? I know there's a Warhammer Japan though I don't know if its supposed to be on that map; looks like it's just off the edge if real life geography is anything to go by. Yes, Warhammer India is just called 'Ind' and all we really know about it is that there a good beastmen called Tigermen and some kind of Naga who live there and sometimes try to invade Cathay. They've never really gone any deeper into the lore or had any kind of army list and CA has said there's currently no plans to develop it out like they did for Cathay.
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# ? Feb 20, 2022 03:53 |
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MechanicalTomPetty posted:Edit: Like it will never not be funny to me that Warhammer Canada is a bleak, nightmarish wasteland of ice and snow run by a cabal of sadomasochistic torture-slavers. Which I guess isn't technically inaccurate but like, did someone at GW have a bad vacation up here once or just really loving hated poutine or something? They switched Canada and the USA to avoid the criticism of being too on the nose wrt their USA analogue. The murderelves being in the same place as the nazi ratmen, evil beast people, and status obsessed undead was just all too much, it would be too tempting not to add literal mormons to the lore next. EDIT: Or I guess it's possible that someone at GW is related to some First Nations people or to someone who just happened to be in the way of whichever mass murdering informant the rcmp was letting rampage around the provinces at the time. Regulus74 fucked around with this message at 04:08 on Feb 20, 2022 |
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NoNotTheMindProbe posted:What difficulty are you playing? On normal my winged lancers reliably break infantry units. I always play normal battle/vh campaign. If monstrous cavalry is performing well and cavalry cavalry isn't then it's probably a mass issue. They should smash into infantry and reliably disrupt a formation but most (maybe all) of the times I charged into something with non-monstrous cavalry it just stopped on impact. E: gently caress, I thought only random event armies could attack caravans not an Ogre doomstack. Well, I guess that's that source of income done. Funky See Funky Do fucked around with this message at 04:11 on Feb 20, 2022 |
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Regulus74 posted:They switched Canada and the USA to avoid the criticism of being too on the nose wrt their USA analogue. Uh, the rats are based in Not-Europe with outposts in Not-South America and Not-Asia, the evil beast people are everywhere and the status-obsessed undead are in Not-Arica. None of them are really in the same place at all
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