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“I’m so sick of siege battles!” -Introduces campaign stuff that has lots of open field battles “No! It can’t take me away from my sieges!”
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Feb 21, 2022 01:08
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NoNotTheMindProbe posted:You want your first camp ASAP. They prevent meat usage for any armies in their range and have access to all the best buildings. The Ivory Road province is a long noodle province and you will run out of meat travelling up and down it without a camp to park at. Is there a marker for how far the range is on those camps? There doesnt seem to be any demarcation of the range on the map.
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Feb 21, 2022 01:09
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Twigand Berries posted:“I’m so sick of siege battles!” tbf, the prince battles are basically glorified siege battles I'll say I do enjoy the chaos realms for all the open field battles, though.
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Feb 21, 2022 01:12
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Kanos posted:I mean, yeah, this is pretty much the only way to actually win street fights with them. It's still a lot slower than other factions whose infantry does damage and who have the mobility to reliably hit from multiple angles. At least in Hard/Hard I've experienced Cathay having pretty good auto resolve going for them (and I think I saw it mentioned it's not as bad as some others on VH), and your replenishment is alright as well, so you actually should be able to a sustain auto resolve casualties fairly well if you go with that.
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Feb 21, 2022 01:12
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I'm having a lot of fun with Kislev myself. Armoured Kossars have pretty good guns but I've mostly been using them as footslogging melee infantry while I use Winged Lancers and Gryphon Legion to own any nerds that the boys can't handle. Also really enjoy Streltsi and Ice Guard. I honestly didn't think I'd like Kislev because armour piercing ranged units are the video game equivalent of Ambien for me. But after my extremely stupid rear end was introduced to the 'melee mode' button that has existed for more than a decade (thanks again poster who told me about that!) I'm all for it. Katarin's a good character - though Kostaltyn seems cooler in cutscenes, where he's a calm religious guy, as opposed to the screaming maniac that he is in the actual game. Plus I find it really fun trying to hold Kislev together. The Norscans keep pouring through the border and getting owned, while the Daemon Prince keeps crossing the ocean to kick my rear end. Plus Skrag in the south and Skaven in Hellpit. Lot's of varied enemies to fight.
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Feb 21, 2022 01:12
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I like the idea of the bastion as a vehicle to produce massive siege battles with 2+ armies per side on an interesting map, but the enemy side of the equation feels kinda placeholdery. Firstly, the small precursor stacks become irrelevant after the early game and my Miao campaign fell into a loop where they would spawn every few turns and get autoresolved by one halfway decent army, keeping the threat meter permanently low and turning the whole thing into busywork like sweeping leaves off your porch. It would be better to just have a few massive attacks come in over the course of a campaign. Secondly, when you have the rogue armies mechanic enabling weird and varied army comps since game two, why would you make it so that you only get attacked by extremely samey Norscan armies with like five different units? It's a perfect opportunity to give Cathay fights against all sorts of demons, hell all sort of factions even. Throw a lost and maddened lizardman stack in there. You could throw all kinds of bullshit at the wall if you gave the player some advance intel of what's coming and a chance to customize the defending armies. Instead it's mammoths and marauders and basic trolls forever. It feels like a huge amount of wasted potential. Oh well, no doubt it will get a second look at some point. brakeless fucked around with this message at 01:16 on Feb 21, 2022 |
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Feb 21, 2022 01:12
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Twigand Berries posted:“I’m so sick of siege battles!” I had fun with the Nurgle army fight, the Katarin fight, the Plaguefather fight and was a bit tired by the second Nurgle army fight when I got the immunity, then the same army respawned for my fifth fight before the Gardener. If another natural Nurgle army appears between me and the mansion then, uh.. well, that'll be a lot of fights. And I'm using some cheesiness to survive so much fighting since Meow can Legend-style Earthblood up wounded Teracota in any fight no matter how inconsequential. Chaos dangerous but it's a little much. Kanos posted:Their infantry hold perfectly fine but they have functionally no offensive power so in situations where infantry having offensive power is a big benefit(wall fights, street fights) they fall short. Cathay takes a lot longer to do the settlement/siege battles that comprise 70% of your fights, which is unfortunate. Yeah true their infantry aren't punching too hard though they have a nice availability of anti-large and get in some nice damage whenever it comes up which is pretty often with their common enemies. The ranged are pretty sick, I was using the iron hail shotgunners early game. The crossbows are pretty easy quareller tier as well.
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Feb 21, 2022 01:14
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CuddleCryptid posted:Is there a marker for how far the range is on those camps? There doesnt seem to be any demarcation of the range on the map. I think it's the red reinforcement ring.
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Feb 21, 2022 01:17
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i am definitely looking forward to the more-fun wave of dlc lords for the monogod factions
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Feb 21, 2022 01:21
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Twigand Berries posted:“I’m so sick of siege battles!” CA somehow did the impossible and increased the number of sieges per campaign because now you literally can't fight a level 1 poo poo settlement without walking through a city maze for 15 minutes.  I started off really loving the minor settlement battles but at this point I've done so many that I'm so loving sick of them that I never want to see them again.
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Feb 21, 2022 01:23
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you can sidegrade yin/yang buildings into their counterpart 
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Feb 21, 2022 01:24
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Y'know, I miss the giant Sigmar statue battle map 
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Feb 21, 2022 01:29
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CuddleCryptid posted:Is there a marker for how far the range is on those camps? There doesnt seem to be any demarcation of the range on the map. mouseover the camp itself and it shows a dashed circle
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Feb 21, 2022 01:30
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Panfilo posted:What's your strategy with Greasus? His settlements are small and hard to defend. When do you put down the first camp? More or less immediately, the earlier you get it down the sooner you never have to worry about meat again and also the sooner you advance your unit roster, and west of Amblepeak is a great place - both Karak Zorn and Fire Mouth are high priority early game targets and also it's a crossroads.
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Feb 21, 2022 01:46
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I really like Kislev, heavy armoured guys with pistols and melee weapons? Yes please Ice guard are good too but I really only have them in Katarin's army
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Feb 21, 2022 01:48
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Broken Cog posted:I'll say I do enjoy the chaos realms for all the open field battles, though. Fighting in Khorne's realm is one giant metal album cover and I love it
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Feb 21, 2022 01:49
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The Obliterating the Odds achievement, for winning a 10-to-1 battle, seems to refer to units, not models. Where and with who should I try to get this?
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Feb 21, 2022 01:49
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I'm coming up on the third rift round and have exactly two camps: Amblepeak and Zharr Naggrund. Camp limit isn't really a thing, by the time you hit it you've probably won the game and also won the painting the map stage.
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Feb 21, 2022 01:49
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Dr Christmas posted:The Obliterating the Odds achievement, for winning a 10-to-1 battle, seems to refer to units, not models. Where and with who should I try to get this? got it with ogres iirc but I'm pretty darn sure it wasn't two enemy stacks
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Feb 21, 2022 01:51
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Doomykins posted:you can sidegrade yin/yang buildings into their counterpart even in the light of recently released information, this government still stands by our decision to tear down and rebuild the labor bureau in Kunlun three times these past six months
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Feb 21, 2022 01:52
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Doomykins posted:you can sidegrade yin/yang buildings into their counterpart How do I do this? Juggling harmony on the campaign is like, the most "it's there" thing ever.
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Feb 21, 2022 01:53
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Dr Christmas posted:The Obliterating the Odds achievement, for winning a 10-to-1 battle, seems to refer to units, not models. Where and with who should I try to get this? bring two units to a twenty stack
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Feb 21, 2022 02:11
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CuddleCryptid posted:Is there a marker for how far the range is on those camps? There doesnt seem to be any demarcation of the range on the map. There's a dotted yellow circle; its fairly far out from the camp, so it can be easy to miss, especially in mountainous terrain.
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Feb 21, 2022 02:11
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At this point i'm spending most of this campaign just trying to keep my "buffer" allies alive so I don't have to go push into chaos territory while i wait for the next set of chaos rifts to open.
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Feb 21, 2022 02:12
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So I'm all about starting the game for my papa nurgle but I'm reading it's a hard campaign with bad units. Is that true?
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Feb 21, 2022 02:15
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Finally did my first Chaos rift (Slaanesh) and wow, that was tedious. I do not like this campaign. E: Do all of the rifts take 8 turns to complete?
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Feb 21, 2022 02:19
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Finished demon prince. Just like vortex it was fine once but I'm ready for combined map/mod that gets rid of the race
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Feb 21, 2022 02:19
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drat Dirty Ape posted:So I'm all about starting the game for my papa nurgle but I'm reading it's a hard campaign with bad units. Is that true? While i haven't played Nurgle, some of my more satisfying wins as Greasus the SHOCKINGLY OBESE have been killing Nurgle stacks with a bunch of cheap gnoblar archers, so... I do rather dread that campaign.
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Feb 21, 2022 02:20
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smug jeebus posted:Finally did my first Chaos rift (Slaanesh) and wow, that was tedious. I do not like this campaign. I did Khorne in like, 3. Spawned in and kept getting attacked. I don't think i've done a single one of these long quest battles. They're so boring, I just autoresolve them now. I get to stage 2 and just roll my eyes.
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Feb 21, 2022 02:25
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Dr Christmas posted:The Obliterating the Odds achievement, for winning a 10-to-1 battle, seems to refer to units, not models. Where and with who should I try to get this? Legend suggested beating up a greenskins stack, then attacking the remnants in a second battle with a solo caster lord. Presumably you could bring some SEMs too though if you don't whittle their forces down too hard.
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Feb 21, 2022 02:29
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I had an interesting situation occur during my Miao Ying campaign. A settlement I gained through confederation came under siege by the Tzeentch faction that starts next to it. I had no reinforcements nearby so I was ready to chalk it up as something to reclaim/rebuild later. But incredibly, the neighboring Greenskins of the Leafcutter Tribe decided to throw their lives on the line for an epic showdown between mortals and daemons. Bless those orky heroes who gave their lives so that I could go on living. o7
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Feb 21, 2022 02:34
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Third World Reagan posted:Did SFO some how work into some sort of brain worms mode where people needed it otherwise factions did not have the tools to compete? I'm assuming you're referring to my post since "tools to compete" was the phrase I used, and no, to clarify my language, by 'everything' I mean 'all of SFO's changes', not 'the entire game' quote:I trust SFO to give WH3 factions the tools they need to compete - it did a great job of emphasizing strengths and making everything competitive without watering down what made factions unique in WH2. It made its changed factions competitive with one another without resorting to giving every faction a watered-down roster that can do everything, which is the methodology of the (bad) other large overhaul mod for WH2, Regulous or whatever it's called. This was in reference to me saying that I was worried the Warhammer 3 factions wouldn't be able to compete with WH1/2 factions
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Feb 21, 2022 02:36
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Dr Christmas posted:The Obliterating the Odds achievement, for winning a 10-to-1 battle, seems to refer to units, not models. Where and with who should I try to get this? A Miao Ying doomstack. Which is Miao Ying with the Von Carstein blade and the Talons of the Night spell in human form most of the time. And one unit permanently hidden. Here's DameOffensive's first stream of it. Two of the tricks with it are she gets excellent animations in human form so almost no one can get at her, and that she actually has two healing caps; one in human form and one in dragon form.
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Feb 21, 2022 02:37
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Third World Reagan posted:Did SFO some how work into some sort of brain worms mode where people needed it otherwise factions did not have the tools to compete? It just makes all the factions more fun IMO, and more distinct too.
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Feb 21, 2022 02:39
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I still really wish SFO had more modularity to it so the idiosyncratic preferences of its creator in terms of overall game balance weren't tied in as much with the added faction mechanics, and the lack of that means it'll never fully replace vanilla for me in even a majority of my gameplay, but at the price of free it's hard to complain about having it available as another way to play the game.
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Feb 21, 2022 02:46
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SFO is largely modular, but things have to be changed through sub-mods instead of through an in-game menu (which would be nice). There are hundreds of pages of mods for SFO in the WH2 workshop (so many it's annoying finding what you're looking for), and you can find things like removing the massive Growth nerfs and stuff like that
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Feb 21, 2022 02:54
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How do I get my ogre units that are part of the camp garrison to replenish? When I mouse over the little x'd out replenishment icon on the units, it just says "local effects" are stopping replenishment...
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Feb 21, 2022 02:55
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drat Dirty Ape posted:So I'm all about starting the game for my papa nurgle but I'm reading it's a hard campaign with bad units. Is that true? Ku’gath has a pretty safe area he starts in, so you can get set up easily enough. His units feel like an anvil with no hammer, just grind down enemy armies in a test of endurance, especially starting out. Powerful magic lore definitely helps, and the plagueridden hero is super helpful on a rotfly. I’d say he really struggles against a full stack of Tzeentch ranged unless you’ve kitted out an army for it. I’m going to heavily, heavily suggest doing the realm of Tzeentch first or second as nurgle. Because at least then the wandering armies aren’t full stacks. The AI has apparently picked up focus firing, so keep any single entities out of range until the ranged is tied up in melee or you’ll see just how fast Ku’gath’s 15k+ hp evaporates. As for the survival battle itself, I think the Tzeentch battle as nurgle has got to be the most painful matchup possible. Wouldn’t feel bad autoresolving that. First wave was painful, second and third I realised that instead of defending the point I could just block every single enemy spawn point with a wall of nurgle fodder so they couldn’t use ranged attacks. Outside of Tzeentch, haven’t really had a problem fighting the other factions. Oh and if you’re defending a settlement, nurgle has a unique barricade which provides constant healing instead of the usual MD barricade, and it’s ridiculous how much value you can get out of it with some nurglings/plaguebearers.
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Feb 21, 2022 03:08
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drat Dirty Ape posted:So I'm all about starting the game for my papa nurgle but I'm reading it's a hard campaign with bad units. Is that true? The units are definitely terrible, but the campaign isn't actually that hard because you have a pretty safe/cozy start point and aren't being shanked from every single possible direction at once like, say, Kislev. Rush the Crumbling Ague plague - it gives you, among other things, vanguard deployment for your entire army, which means you can negate Nurgle's greatest problem of being shot to itty bitty pieces while waddling along at slower-than-dwarf speed. As Catfish says, get the Tzeentch realm out of the way ASAP. Tzeentch is pretty much kryptonite for Nurgle's entire faction and you have absolutely no answer for anything Tzeentch has, and the realms scale in difficulty based on how late you do them, so you want to make sure Tzeentch's realm is set to mega baby mode or you're going to pray for death. The other daemon factions aren't so bad for you - Khorne and Slaanesh hit hard but they have to engage you in melee where your toughness and stacking debuffs actually matter and you can hit back.
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Feb 21, 2022 03:15
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Any suggestions for best practices to maximize Kislev economy? Not clear on how building effects stack basically do I build hallowed forest and farm in every place or no? I figure getting the +5% faction wide bonus to markets in all big cities and getting markets would be good.
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