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Beyond was written by a massive Trek-loving nerd. It had a few issues with the villain and twist and the pacing of that reveal but to be honest that was probably in part because it was so rushed they didn't have time to refine.
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if just liking trek was enough then every fanfic would be a masterpiece. instead, only the fanfic about kirk and spock's ambulatory penises which was performed live at a con is a masterpiece.
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Feb 20, 2022 03:44
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MikeJF posted:Beyond was written by a massive Trek-loving nerd. It had a few issues with the villain and twist and the pacing of that reveal but to be honest that was probably in part because it was so rushed they didn't have time to refine. Simon Pegg ran out of ideas two minutes after finishing hot Fuzz. He "wrote" another WOK rip off. More time on the script wasn't going to do poo poo if that was his starting point. Unless you're talking about Jung?
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Feb 20, 2022 07:27
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people didn't like the 2009 star trek movie? i thought it was fun. at least the me from 13 years ago did hmmm.
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Feb 20, 2022 07:51
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it's fine if you watch it idly and don't think about any aspect.
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Feb 20, 2022 07:55
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Trek 2009 made Trek sort of mainstream fun and accessible again for all of a year. I've been thinking the best part of the three nuTrek movies are the opening acts and with Into Darkness I wished that somehow the entire film could have been built more around that opening act and stretched out into an entire movie.
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Feb 20, 2022 09:29
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Lazy_Liberal posted:people didn't like the 2009 star trek movie? i thought it was fun. at least the me from 13 years ago did hmmm. Was an alright movie I guess, but didn't hit the Trek spots for me. Plus I didn't care for rebooting Kirk and Spock and crew. If anything I am thankful they exist because Quinto Spock sucks and makes Disco Spock all the better. Will forever be alarmed at how much I like Disco Spock.
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Feb 20, 2022 10:08
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Lazy_Liberal posted:people didn't like the 2009 star trek movie? i thought it was fun. at least the me from 13 years ago did hmmm. People liked it, the 2009 movie resurrected the dead franchise against all odds. What else should it have possibly done? And that's why some goons and many trekkies hate it; its popular with the general population, so it has to be oversimplified/stupid/not *my* Star Trek/all hat no cattle/SFX-showcase/...
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Feb 20, 2022 11:12
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I don't know how the J.Michael Straczynski Trek reboot idea that was apparently being suggested around 2004 would have turned out as an alternative. From what I remember of the pitch, I get the feeling it MIGHT have veering a bit into some mystery box BS but given that I was a big fan of B5 in the 90s, it's possible with a budget and creative control (and MAYBE some benefit of the doubt from Trek fans when it came to a reimagining) it might have been successful.
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Feb 20, 2022 11:31
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Get Will Weaton to make a Trek, he's a huge Trek nerd.
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Feb 20, 2022 12:06
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Lazy_Liberal posted:people didn't like the 2009 star trek movie? i thought it was fun. at least the me from 13 years ago did hmmm. Post/username ccccombo!
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Feb 20, 2022 13:34
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Just put all the poo poo away, make a paramount plus movie following the last actually canonical Star Trek show, Deep Space Nine and make an actually great movie about how scary and intelligent Romulans are without the Cardassians and Klingons in a large-scale political thriller interrupted by the still actually scary Borg since Voyager and First Contact never happened and they’re going to have to put aside their differences and learn to work together to save their people. Successful partially thanks to a new returned and much more powerful Ben Sisko who gets to punch Q again and also thanks to the intelligence and bravery of the all new awesome crew of the newly minted non-Sovereign class Enterprise E, this launches a brand new five year mission to explore strange new worlds seek out new life and new civilisations to boldly go where no one has gone before, tackling new modern issues in that inimitable Star Trek way and bringing the world together to imagine again a bright future without money or disease, just some friends who work hard to to help folks out who need it because that’s just who they are
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Feb 20, 2022 15:31
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Throw in some swarms of drones and giant CGI space monsters, and I'll call Alex to get started on an outline for the season long story arc.
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Feb 20, 2022 15:34
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Wondering when we'll move on from various Mass Effect retreads.
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External Organs posted:Wondering when we'll move on from various Mass Effect retreads. Star Trek: Andromeda
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Cthulu Carl posted:Star Trek: Andromeda i have a bad feeling about SNW all of a sudden
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chaosbreather posted:Just put all the poo poo away, make a paramount plus movie following the last actually canonical Star Trek show, Deep Space Nine and make an actually great movie about how scary and intelligent Romulans are without the Cardassians and Klingons in a large-scale political thriller interrupted by the still actually scary Borg since Voyager and First Contact never happened and they’re going to have to put aside their differences and learn to work together to save their people. Gowron is still alive and is head of the Klingon High Council with no explanation.
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Feb 20, 2022 16:46
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punishedkissinger posted:i have a bad feeling about SNW all of a sudden All of a sudden? Did you just look up SNW's IMDB writing credits?
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Lazy_Liberal posted:people didn't like the 2009 star trek movie? i thought it was fun. at least the me from 13 years ago did hmmm. The only good thing about it is the cast. Every single other thing about it sucks assssss. I hate it, it’s poo poo.
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“Hi, Christopher” was good
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Star Trek 09 was a fun stupid action movie but after Into Darkness blasted bloody diarrhea in everyone’s mouths 09 caught some collateral damage on the “jj trek was always total rear end”
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Feb 20, 2022 17:43
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One of those JJ things was on in the background once and I saw Spock order Kirk loaded into a torpedo tube and fired onto a planet and I remember thinking "this looks dumb". Which one was that?
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Prurient Squid posted:One of those JJ things was on in the background once and I saw Spock order Kirk loaded into a torpedo tube and fired onto a planet and I remember thinking "this looks dumb". Which one was that? that was 2009 and there were a lot of little space things around that entire segment that made no sense
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Prurient Squid posted:One of those JJ things was on in the background once and I saw Spock order Kirk loaded into a torpedo tube and fired onto a planet and I remember thinking "this looks dumb". Which one was that? That was an escape pod and he shot him at a starfleet outpost but missed I think? But yeah that was dumb.
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In Star Trek 2009's defence I had my first makeout session to the DVD menu looping in the background after we watched it ah to be a young gay nerd again fun times now I'm an oldish gay nerd
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JJ trek are movies more about who's banging who and what everyone feels about that instead of anything else which is why I hate them.
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You gave your girlfriend radioactive jewelry? You gave your girlfriend a tracking device?
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CainFortea posted:JJ trek are movies more about who's banging who and what everyone feels about that instead of anything else which is why I hate them. There's lots to criticise but I don't really remember that being what they're about. There's like one relationship.
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Feb 20, 2022 19:15
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Mulaney Power Move posted:that was 2009 and there were a lot of little space things around that entire segment that made no sense JJverse requires an overactive suppression of disbelief.
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remember how in Star Wars you could see the laser beam going from one planet to another from the surface of a third planet, none of which were anywhere near each other that's that patented JJ Abrams Space Understanding
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The jj movies were comic book movies about star wars and once both of those things got big/came back there was no reason for the Star Trek reboots to exist anymore lol
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Dabir posted:remember how in Star Wars you could see the laser beam going from one planet to another from the surface of a third planet, none of which were anywhere near each other Turbolazer fire has an arc trajectory similar to 17th century cannons.
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Tighclops posted:The jj movies were comic book movies about star wars and once both of those things got big/came back there was no reason for the Star Trek reboots to exist anymore lol I would honestly believe that the Trek 09 was just JJ trying to show the Star Wars people that he could do a Star Wars movie.
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For some reason I just had a flashback to the Plinkett review of First Contact and Mike Stoklasa's intricated argument about how that one room that can only be reached by a jeffries tube and contains a portal to space covered by a forcefield has no purpose at all.
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"Hey, this is LaForge... why the gently caress did most of the Jefferies tubes just become exposed to hard vacuum...?
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chaosbreather posted:Just put all the poo poo away, make a paramount plus movie following the last actually canonical Star Trek show, Deep Space Nine and make an actually great movie about how scary and intelligent Romulans are without the Cardassians and Klingons in a large-scale political thriller interrupted by the still actually scary Borg since Voyager and First Contact never happened and they’re going to have to put aside their differences and learn to work together to save their people. This sounds ok but doesn’t have enough ninja flips or beloved side characters being eviscerated
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DS9 continuation you say? I give you Star Trek: Rugal
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Michael Dorn has been shopping The Worf Adventures or whatever around for decades and I guess even Paramount+ doesn’t want it
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Endless Trash posted:Michael Dorn has been shopping The Worf Adventures or whatever around for decades and I guess even Paramount+ doesn’t want it The real sticking point is probably casting the right person for the role of the series Big Bad, Ba'rel.
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