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30.5 Days
Nov 19, 2006
Supposedly he'll do it after DCC wraps, I think it's safe to say that that's his moneymaker and he's gotta make hay while the sun shines. So uhhh for those on the patreon:

How bout that ending?

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asur
Dec 28, 2012

30.5 Days posted:

Supposedly he'll do it after DCC wraps, I think it's safe to say that that's his moneymaker and he's gotta make hay while the sun shines. So uhhh for those on the patreon:

How bout that ending?

I know we have to have drama, but I'm very disappointed with Katia being an idiot. It's also a little lame because there are just a few possible ways it plays out. Maybe I'll be pleasantly surprised though.

Everything else was great.

asur fucked around with this message at 23:58 on Feb 8, 2022

Telsa Cola
Aug 19, 2011

No... this is all wrong... this whole operation has just gone completely sidewaysface
Need a cultivation or litrpg series about instituting full socialism now. Thanks in advanced.

Megazver
Jan 13, 2006

Telsa Cola posted:

Need a cultivation or litrpg series about instituting full socialism now. Thanks in advanced.

Release That Witch is about instituting an absolutist monarchy with Chinese Socialist characteristics, I suppose?

It's good, if you are willing to tolerate a translation that's obviously just cleaned up MTL.

Cicero
Dec 17, 2003

Jumpjet, melta, jumpjet. Repeat for ten minutes or until victory is assured.
The nature of cultivation seems like it'd resist socialist organizing. Because you'd have a situation where one staunch capitalist cultivator really is worth like a million randos (in terms of combat, at least).

Polikarpov
Jun 1, 2013

Keep it between the buoys
That's just the Commonweal with Chinese Characteristics

90s Cringe Rock
Nov 29, 2006
:gay:
Second Commonweal, at least.

Argas
Jan 13, 2008
SRW Fanatic




I mean, I have a sci-fi setting in mind wherein the focal society is a socialist/communist cultivators.

People can cultivate their bodies, minds, even souls. So why can't people work together to cultivate society too?

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
i always did think of the rpg/wuxia power fantasy as slightly gross. anyway nobody has really written a collectivist power fantasy as far as im aware. there's not very much collectivist fiction in general.

Telsa Cola
Aug 19, 2011

No... this is all wrong... this whole operation has just gone completely sidewaysface

Cicero posted:

The nature of cultivation seems like it'd resist socialist organizing. Because you'd have a situation where one staunch capitalist cultivator really is worth like a million randos (in terms of combat, at least).

Yeah but theres nothing stopping someone from doing the reverse either, in that one staunch socialist could go "gently caress you fight me"

AARD VARKMAN
May 17, 1993
Combat is stupid give me cultivation entirely for every day use. Construction workers with a path of cement working, head of the construction clan singlehandedly logging a forest, an entire factory run by a single cultivator etc

Jarvisi
Apr 17, 2001

Green is still best.

AARD VARKMAN posted:

Combat is stupid give me cultivation entirely for every day use. Construction workers with a path of cement working, head of the construction clan singlehandedly logging a forest, an entire factory run by a single cultivator etc

I want to read a book about a good necromancer who runs a construction firm

asur
Dec 28, 2012

Telsa Cola posted:

Yeah but theres nothing stopping someone from doing the reverse either, in that one staunch socialist could go "gently caress you fight me"

The hoops the author would need to jump through to make the supposed socialist not a hypocrite seem pretty large and would likely appear contrived.

Beware of Chicken is the closest story I've seen and it's more inverting the selfish self centered cultivation trope than anything socialist.

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
The aforementioned Commonweal books are pretty much the only one I really know with a collectivist society that isn't cold war brain damage induced. But it's important to note that it's collectivist, not socialist. It's largely a classless society for the nonmagical but isn't defined in those terms. It is structured in what you could loosely consider syndicalism, though. The workplace (whether a farm or a workshop) is the basic unit of political structure, and in the case of farms often the basic unit of social structure as well. It's a lot less 'to each according to his needs' and more 'there is a minimum output we all need to survive and you will meet it' kind of vibe, but it seems to be less ideological and more just a reality of the piece of poo poo world that setting has.

LLSix
Jan 20, 2010

The real power behind countless overlords

Jarvisi posted:

I want to read a book about a good necromancer who runs a construction firm

Why a construction firm?

I forget which, but one of Simon R. Green's Hawk & Fisher books involves undead dock workers. I wouldn't be surprised if there's something like that in his Nightside series too.

branedotorg
Jun 19, 2009

Jarvisi posted:

I want to read a book about a good necromancer who runs a construction firm

how about necromancer lawyers? not KU but the craft sequence by max gladstone is 5 books in a post war world where souls are used as currency and dead god's bodies are mined for resources.

Megazver
Jan 13, 2006

Jarvisi posted:

I want to read a book about a good necromancer who runs a construction firm

There is a couple of cool RPG settings that explore "hey, what if necromancy was legal and used for labor and defense", but alas no novels. (As far as I am aware.)

https://www.drivethrurpg.com/product/172854/Drakonheim-City-of-Bones

https://www.drivethrurpg.com/product/3279/Hollowfaust-City-of-Necromancers

Cicero
Dec 17, 2003

Jumpjet, melta, jumpjet. Repeat for ten minutes or until victory is assured.

Megazver posted:

There is a couple of cool RPG settings that explore "hey, what if necromancy was legal and used for labor and defense", but alas no novels. (As far as I am aware.)
This is a side plot point in both The Wandering Inn (where it's cute) and Worth the Candle (where it's definitely not).

Happiness Commando
Feb 1, 2002
$$ joy at gunpoint $$

One of the newer chapters of Beware of Chicken has the cultivators repairing the town they busted up during an enormous fight. Not really a Path of Construction though.

30.5 Days
Nov 19, 2006

asur posted:

The hoops the author would need to jump through to make the supposed socialist not a hypocrite seem pretty large and would likely appear contrived.

Beware of Chicken is the closest story I've seen and it's more inverting the selfish self centered cultivation trope than anything socialist.

how do you feel about stakhanovites op?

30.5 Days
Nov 19, 2006

asur posted:

I know we have to have drama, but I'm very disappointed with Katia being an idiot. It's also a little lame because there are just a few possible ways it plays out. Maybe I'll be pleasantly surprised though.

Everything else was great.



I think I find the change believable but I hate that it's completely unsupported because floor 6 was just carl & donut with very little interaction with everyone else. It's like he wants to expand the cast but also doesn't want to leave leave carl's POV and carl is like notoriously solipsistic within the story so there's just constant random infodumping about other characters because we're stuck in the head of a character who doesn't really pay that much attention.

I suspect that there is going to be a cheat.

Remulak
Jun 8, 2001
I can't count to four.
Yams Fan

Megazver posted:

There is a couple of cool RPG settings that explore "hey, what if necromancy was legal and used for labor and defense", but alas no novels. (As far as I am aware.)

https://www.drivethrurpg.com/product/172854/Drakonheim-City-of-Bones

https://www.drivethrurpg.com/product/3279/Hollowfaust-City-of-Necromancers

Read a really fun KU trilogy about slave ghosts that I can’t loving find.

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Remulak posted:

Read a really fun KU trilogy about slave ghosts that I can’t loving find.

Oh, yeah, I know the one. To the point where they wouldn't even bother keeping living slaves, they'd just slash your throat and bind your ghost in an alley because it's easier. Don't remember the name either, but it was pretty good.

Roadie
Jun 30, 2013

Larry Parrish posted:

i always did think of the rpg/wuxia power fantasy as slightly gross.

You might like the Dungeon Crawler Carl series (often mentioned in this thread), as it emphasizes throughout how hosed it is to have a system that materially rewards lots of killing and how existentially awful the entities that set up and support that system are.

Roadie fucked around with this message at 11:26 on Feb 20, 2022

30.5 Days
Nov 19, 2006
Finished listening to the first book of Mother Of Learning. It was bad enough that the narrator was awful, but even worse, the book is really good. This thing has been finished for like two years and there's only one audio book out? So I guess I'm going to actually get on royal road and read.

At least I don't have to listen to that clown try to do accents any more, which all run the gamut from incompetent to racist.

AARD VARKMAN
May 17, 1993
Can I get some recommendations for Cultivation books/maybe LitRPG? I'd like something to get something new on my Kindle before I head to the airport for some epic VACATION READING, and I've read all the obvious stuff I think


Read so far in order of most to least liked

Dungeon Crawler Carl
Kaiju Battlefield Surgeon
Cradle
Mage Errant
A Thousand Li
The System Apocalypse (gave up after 2 books)

Cicero
Dec 17, 2003

Jumpjet, melta, jumpjet. Repeat for ten minutes or until victory is assured.
Accents being racist is an interesting topic, because using racial or cultural stereotypes is or at least can be racist, but in some sense an accent is nothing but a cultural stereotype.

I know what you mean though, even if I haven’t listened to MoL as an audiobook.

Xel
Jan 21, 2003

Cultivation I have enjoyed:
https://www.royalroad.com/fiction/42441/elder-cultivator
https://www.royalroad.com/fiction/39408/beware-of-chicken
https://www.royalroad.com/fiction/21188/forge-of-destiny
https://www.royalroad.com/fiction/37107/the-story-of-how-a-cultivation-universe-was-conquered

On Kindle Unlimited:
Ten Realms https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07F7QQGZ9/ref=ku_mi_rw_edp_ku
Silver Fox & The Western Hero https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08261T1YF/ref=ku_mi_rw_edp_ku
Street Cultivation https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07W9J75R3/ref=ku_mi_rw_edp_ku

Cicero
Dec 17, 2003

Jumpjet, melta, jumpjet. Repeat for ten minutes or until victory is assured.

AARD VARKMAN posted:

Can I get some recommendations for Cultivation books/maybe LitRPG? I'd like something to get something new on my Kindle before I head to the airport for some epic VACATION READING, and I've read all the obvious stuff I think


Read so far in order of most to least liked

Dungeon Crawler Carl
Kaiju Battlefield Surgeon
Cradle
Mage Errant
A Thousand Li
The System Apocalypse (gave up after 2 books)
It might help if you talked about what you liked or didn’t like in those series.

Sarah Lin has a bunch of stuff on Kindle and is a reliable progression fantasy standby, and notable for being one of the very few female authors in the genre. Her two current series, The Brightest Shadow and The Weirkey Chronicles, are both solid. The Brightest Shadow is epic, slow burn progression fantasy that’s very, uh, moody and contemplative, unusual structure too. The Weirkey Chronicles is Cradle with more realistic, less fun characters and a much ‘harder’ and more interesting magic system. What the two of them have in common is their main characters leaning towards being sort of melancholic.

The best Kindle LitRPG I’ve read is probably Wraith’s Haunt/Dungeon Lord, which starts pretty decent and steadily improves from there. Well, I dunno if it’s better than Carl, I only read one book of that and dropped it because the tone was a bit too grim for me.

navyjack
Jul 15, 2006



AARD VARKMAN posted:

Can I get some recommendations for Cultivation books/maybe LitRPG? I'd like something to get something new on my Kindle before I head to the airport for some epic VACATION READING, and I've read all the obvious stuff I think


Read so far in order of most to least liked

Dungeon Crawler Carl
Kaiju Battlefield Surgeon
Cradle
Mage Errant
A Thousand Li
The System Apocalypse (gave up after 2 books)

Well, since you liked Dungeon Crawler Carl and Kaiju Battlefield Surgeon, Matt Dinniman has a series on KU called Dominion of Blades. There are only 2 books, both published pre-DCC, but apparently he’s going back to them sooner rather than later.

AARD VARKMAN
May 17, 1993

Cicero posted:

It might help if you talked about what you liked or didn’t like in those series.

Dungeon Crawler Carl - really fun, the mechanics of it are cool, the characters are pretty likeable
Kaiju Battlefield Surgeon - this maybe i should have put as my #1, it covers so much ground and leaves you lots to imagine with all the choices not made, all in 1 book.

Cradle - this and the next 2 are cultivation and i pretty much like the same things about them: i like seeing all the different paths and ways they combine, especially the non-combat stuff. Cradle's characters and writing are generally a level above the other two though.
Mage Errant - this one in particular has my favorite cultivation "system" (it's Magic and Mana but whatever) just because it's easy to imagine such cool poo poo with the simple idea of word based affinities. i.e. you could have someone who had two affinities in like, Steel and Tomatoes and they'd have to figure out a way to make it work because you just are Born With Them. Very Cool.
A Thousand Li - this one was more Cultivation to read after ran out of the previous two lol

The System Apocalypse (gave up after 2 books). i dont know, too slow? if i'm reading something with stat blocks etc i want them to be be going Up satisfyingly quickly and making meaningful changes to the characters' abilities and i dunno, overall just kind of boring

.Z.
Jan 12, 2008

AARD VARKMAN posted:

Can I get some recommendations for Cultivation books/maybe LitRPG? I'd like something to get something new on my Kindle before I head to the airport for some epic VACATION READING, and I've read all the obvious stuff I think


Read so far in order of most to least liked

Dungeon Crawler Carl
Kaiju Battlefield Surgeon
Cradle
Mage Errant
A Thousand Li
The System Apocalypse (gave up after 2 books)

Seconding the Beware of Chicken suggestion for slice of life cultivation.

Young Master is Not Cannon Fodder for a wuxia series where MC is starts off as one of the rich, well born characters.
https://www.royalroad.com/fiction/33461/this-young-master-is-not-cannon-fodder

My Disciple Died Yet Again, As title suggests MC keeps dieing and reincarnating and her teacher keeps tracking her down.
https://www.novelupdates.com/series/my-disciple-died-yet-again/

Oh Great I was Reincarnated as A Farmer - Litrpg reincarnation story where the world is studying and exploiting litrpg game mechanics. MC hates farming and is stuck with the farmer class.
https://www.amazon.com/Great-was-Reincarnated-Farmer-Unorthodox-ebook/dp/B094CSB51K/ref=nodl_

.Z. fucked around with this message at 06:35 on Feb 21, 2022

doandroidzdream
Apr 27, 2019

AARD VARKMAN posted:

Can I get some recommendations for Cultivation books/maybe LitRPG? I'd like something to get something new on my Kindle before I head to the airport for some epic VACATION READING, and I've read all the obvious stuff I think


Read so far in order of most to least liked

Dungeon Crawler Carl
Kaiju Battlefield Surgeon
Cradle
Mage Errant
A Thousand Li
The System Apocalypse (gave up after 2 books)

To scratch your itch, may I recommend

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/59024114-prodigies - Prodigies (Heaven's Laws #1) by Apollos Thorne

https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/46261139 - Blood of Fate (World 99 #1) by Dan Sugralinov

and

https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/56638945-monsters-and-legends - Monsters and Legends: A LitRPG Cultivation Saga (Infinite Realm #1) by Ivan Kal

Happy vacay!

Kyoujin
Oct 7, 2009

.Z. posted:


My Disciple Died Yet Again, As title suggests MC keeps dieibg and reincarnating and her teacher keeps tracking her down.
https://www.novelupdates.com/series/my-disciple-died-yet-again/


I was looking for this a few days ago since I remember liking it. Not only is it finished now, there is also a TV series! Reviews for tv drama don't look so hot though.

AARD VARKMAN
May 17, 1993
Thank you all for the suggestions. I had a lot of read stuff in my Unlimited library so I downloaded all of thes.

This Young Master is not Cannon Fodder: A Cultivation Fantasy (Tianyi Book 1) by D.C. Haenlien
Soulhome (The Weirkey Chronicles Book 1) by Sarah Lin
Dungeon Lord (The Wraith's Haunt - A litRPG series Book 1) by Hugo Huesca
Monsters and Legends: A LitRPG Cultivation Saga (Infinite Realm Book 1) by Ivan Kal
Oh, Great! I was Reincarnated as a Farmer: A LitRPG Adventure: (Unorthodox Farming) by Benjamin Kerei
Silver Fox & The Western Hero: Warrior Reborn: A LitRPG/Wuxia Novel - Book 1 by M.H. Johnson

Not positive which one I'll start with yet but I'm mostly wavering between the first two :thunk:

LLSix
Jan 20, 2010

The real power behind countless overlords

AARD VARKMAN posted:

Can I get some recommendations for Cultivation books/maybe LitRPG? I'd like something to get something new on my Kindle before I head to the airport for some epic VACATION READING, and I've read all the obvious stuff I think


Read so far in order of most to least liked

Dungeon Crawler Carl
Kaiju Battlefield Surgeon
Cradle
Mage Errant
A Thousand Li
The System Apocalypse (gave up after 2 books)

https://www.amazon.com/Forge-Destiny-1-Yrsillar-ebook/dp/B08P8175Z1 Forge of Destiny is usually the number two cultivation recommendation right after Cradle. And it's on Kindle now.

So I'm a spider is good progression fantasy with a spider MC.

I usually also recommend Threadbare and Data Dragon Danika for LitRPG, but they're much more light hearted than the other things you like. Threadbare's MC is a teddy bear (golem) who goes on all kinds of actually rather serious adventures after the first arc, but the tone remains charming and playful. On the other hand, you said you liked seeing how path's combine in Cradle and Threadbare has a very extensive multi-class mechanic, so you'll probably love those elements.

Grimgar is a gritty low-power D&D-esque litrpg. The first book covers their extreme struggles to kill lone goblins. It's also very Japanese with all the usual sexist baggage that implies, although at least the bathing scene trope is somewhat inverted with the spying boys getting what they deserve.

Dr Subterfuge
Aug 31, 2005

TIME TO ROC N' ROLL
I like Dungeon Lord a lot but be warned the series is incomplete and the author has been working on the next book for years. Updates when they come are from the editor, who is only slightly less in the dark than everyone else.

AARD VARKMAN
May 17, 1993
it seems like 99.9% of the works in these genres are currently Work In Progress and I've just accepted it at this point

.Z.
Jan 12, 2008

Kyoujin posted:

I was looking for this a few days ago since I remember liking it. Not only is it finished now, there is also a TV series! Reviews for tv drama don't look so hot though.

Yeah, most of the drama adaptations of Chinese webnovels I've seen has been mediocre. The anime adaptations are almost always better, which isn't surprising given the subject matter. One I did enjoy was "Joy of Life", though it's supposed to be a very loose adaptation. I've never read the series it was based on, just had it suggested to me by a HK acquaintance.
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLTB73Ibi_X3H0oT42WnzzY_6lo3pQjNMW

AARD VARKMAN posted:

it seems like 99.9% of the works in these genres are currently Work In Progress and I've just accepted it at this point

You could always check out some of the completed, popular Chinese webnovels that influenced all the RoyalRoad authors. Only problem might be cost, a lot of this stuff is gathered under Webnovel and their pricing system is painful.
https://www.webnovel.com/stories/novel?sourceType=0&bookStatus=2&orderBy=1

But if I had to pick out titles:
King's Avatar - Not wuxia, but one of the most popular series. Top tier pro gamer gets booted from his team, makes new one. Spawned both a drama adaptation and an ongoing Anime adaptation that's actually pretty good iirc.
https://www.webnovel.com/book/the-king%27s-avatar_7176992105000305

Release that Witch - Dude reincarnates onto medieval world, proceeds to modernize things.
https://www.webnovel.com/book/release-that-witch_7931338406001705

Coiling Dragon - One of the OGs of the standard wuxia trope of born weak, become insanely powerful.
https://www.webnovel.com/book/coiling-dragon_8094085105004705

Tale of Demons and Gods - Not actually completed, but probably never going to be. Update rate dropped from a few chapters week to like 1 chapter a month when the author started doing other stuff. Dude dies at peak of his power, reincarnates into younger self in the past, uses that knowledge to get powerful sooner, etc.
https://www.novelupdates.com/series/tales-of-demons-and-gods/

Omniscient Reader - Korean series. Dude finishes reading a webseries that only he was the reader off towards the end. System apocalypse occurs and everything that starts happening is following the plot of the webseries. He uses this knowledge to get strong and survive. Actually, I'm not sure if this one's had much influence on RoyalRoad authors. Pretty sure the reader knows the future trope was popularized by some Japanese series. But I included this one since I'm pretty sure it's one of the sources for the ongoing Constellation/Sponsor trope in manwha series.
https://www.webnovel.com/book/omniscient-reader_12524375106746605

.Z. fucked around with this message at 06:35 on Feb 21, 2022

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90s Cringe Rock
Nov 29, 2006
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I like Weirkey's cultivation system of literally building a house in your soul. The actual story... is enough to keep me reading chapters as they're released.

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