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https://twitter.com/loogunda/status/1495712958294409221?t=6YVuGfAHGLzjlYv0v1ktzA&s=19 Rus propaganda last week feels like total amateur hour which is... hopeful? That means there is no coherent narrative playbook from the top until Ukrainians gently caress up for real and the random false flags so far are cheap improv.
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No, Russian propaganda is always terrible. The problem is it's also quite effective within Russia - most people still get their news from the TV and the only stuff on the airwaves is pushing the Kremlin line.
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cinci zoo sniper posted:Credit where it’s due to Ukrainian munitions, all these explosions and not a single casualty. Including when they “utterly obliterated a border guard site”. RIP cardboard "border checkpoint" in the middle of the woods, 2022-2022
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Alchenar posted:No, Russian propaganda is always terrible. The problem is it's also quite effective within Russia - most people still get their news from the TV and the only stuff on the airwaves is pushing the Kremlin line. It's also effective outside Russia, because 40-50% of people are even worse than the propaganda. I think Russian propaganda arm may operate on the same principles as the scammers who send Nigerian prince emails.
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Feb 21, 2022 12:33
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steinrokkan posted:RIP cardboard "border checkpoint" in the middle of the woods, 2022-2022 I crossed the border near Lugansk in 2008. It was a muddy patch in the middle of nowhere, surrounded by high fences and a gate at each end with a few small buildings made of cinderblocks and the kind of thin plywood used in old mobile homes. I had to bribe the Ukrainian side like $20 to let me out and the Russian side a pack of Marlboros to let me in. The landscape was pretty similar to what's in that video but the infrastructure was far more built up (which isn't saying much). There was at least a road, gates, fences, and so on. It felt like a set from a low-budget 80s or 90s action movie.
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Smeef posted:I crossed the border near Lugansk in 2008. It was a muddy patch in the middle of nowhere, surrounded by high fences and a gate at each end with a few small buildings made of cinderblocks and the kind of thin plywood used in old mobile homes. I had to bribe the Ukrainian side like $20 to let me out and the Russian side a pack of Marlboros to let me in. The landscape was pretty similar to what's in that video but the infrastructure was far more built up (which isn't saying much). There was at least a road, gates, fences, and so on. It felt like a set from a low-budget 80s or 90s action movie. This whole thing feel like an 80s movie to be honest.
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Smeef posted:I crossed the border near Lugansk in 2008. It was a muddy patch in the middle of nowhere, surrounded by high fences and a gate at each end with a few small buildings made of cinderblocks and the kind of thin plywood used in old mobile homes. I had to bribe the Ukrainian side like $20 to let me out and the Russian side a pack of Marlboros to let me in. The landscape was pretty similar to what's in that video but the infrastructure was far more built up (which isn't saying much). There was at least a road, gates, fences, and so on. It felt like a set from a low-budget 80s or 90s action movie. This forum has wayyy less comedy gold than it used to, but this post definitely brings back the old laughs from SA. I got such a good mental image from reading this. Possibly a largely inaccurate mental image, but I like it anyway.
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Majorian posted:Do you have evidence that they literally created concentration camps in Crimea in 2014? Because that's what the letter says they're going to do in Ukraine once they occupy the country. Look up Izolyatsia, Donetsk. It can be called a "camp" --- a torture camp.
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In fairness it's really difficult to tell the difference between a regular Russian prison and something that's intended to be a torture camp.
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https://twitter.com/ELINTNews/status/1495742010552111109?t=x1iWht6N6DEPmYq9TdTHYA&s=19 RIA is continuing to strain credulity here. Those Ukrainian drivers picked a bad time to mount a daring rescue mission!
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Generation Internet posted:https://twitter.com/ELINTNews/status/1495742010552111109?t=x1iWht6N6DEPmYq9TdTHYA&s=19 The fact that this statement is coming from the Russian Army itself is a major escalation.
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Generation Internet posted:https://twitter.com/ELINTNews/status/1495742010552111109?t=x1iWht6N6DEPmYq9TdTHYA&s=19 Russian military claims to have killed 5 Ukrainian saboteurs inside Russian borders. They are moving this to direct Russia-Ukraine confrontations Also, DNR has officially requested Russian military aid due to the dire situation lmao. Guess they got overwhelmed by their own artillery fire
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If only Russia had joined Nato in the 1990s they wouldn't have to be facing this Ukrainian onslaught all by themselves 
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Alchenar posted:No, Russian propaganda is always terrible. The problem is it's also quite effective within Russia - most people still get their news from the TV and the only stuff on the airwaves is pushing the Kremlin line. I wish I could find the article or interview but NPR interviewed an American who goes onto Russian state media to be the guy whose constantly saying, actually none of this is true and he says the way Russian media works is they basically flood with their points, let you make your point and then have someone shout you down or move on quickly from you. Essentially, its just a cacophony that only allows Kremlin based media points breathe. And of course the only talk of the United States is when bad things happen.
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GABA ghoul posted:Russian military claims to have killed 5 Ukrainian saboteurs inside Russian borders. They are moving this to direct Russia-Ukraine confrontations Yeah this is the most concerning part. https://twitter.com/NeilPHauer/status/1495726123686191106?t=l3HN2vfWiv8B2zUJHspxMA&s=19 Really feels like the final pieces of the justification.
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Generation Internet posted:https://twitter.com/ELINTNews/status/1495742010552111109?t=x1iWht6N6DEPmYq9TdTHYA&s=19 Remember, Russia officially recognises DNR and LNR as Ukrainian territories.
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https://twitter.com/oalexanderdk/status/1495739491813928966 Incredible. Generation Internet posted:https://twitter.com/ELINTNews/status/1495742010552111109?t=x1iWht6N6DEPmYq9TdTHYA&s=19 Edit: Full length Interfax article on the border incursion claim https://www.interfax.ru/russia/823442 cinci zoo sniper fucked around with this message at 14:12 on Feb 21, 2022 |
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Lmao, proclick if I ever saw one. I can't stop laughing at this, it's even below highschool play level
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GABA ghoul posted:Lmao, proclick if I ever saw one. I can't stop laughing at this, it's even below highschool play level Donetskii Amateur Dramatic Society DADS presents a special version of "Come and See". Premiers soon, reserve your tickets before they sell out! I'm not sure that this isn't a trollolol, it's just so bad. Is there proof that the actual DPR accounts have posted it? 
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Nenonen posted:Donetskii Amateur Dramatic Society DADS presents a special version of "Come and See". Premiers soon, reserve your tickets before they sell out! Yeah, I would go with out of context or troll too. This can't be serious. My first thought was actually civil defense/first aid exercise, but it's at night in bumfuck nowhere so probably not
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President Zelensky was quoted by the DPR Press Agency as saying "Somebody had to take Putin home and I noticed he was sitting on HIS SWEET ROSTOV so I grab his SWEET ROSTOV. Oh, just thinking about his SWEET ROSTOV I wish I had his SWEESWEESWEET ROSTOV"
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They've already removed the video. It look like some Ukrainians sent it to them as a prank, and journalistic standards in LDNR are understandably very low.
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steinrokkan posted:President Zelensky was quoted by the DPR Press Agency as saying "Somebody had to take Putin home and I noticed he was sitting on HIS SWEET ROSTOV so I grab his SWEET ROSTOV. Oh, just thinking about his SWEET ROSTOV I wish I had his SWEESWEESWEET ROSTOV" Mr. Zelensky, you admit to wanting ROSTOV. Your silence only incriminates you further. Mr. Zelensky why are you attacking autonomous Donbas?! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
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Paladinus posted:They've already removed the video. It look like some Ukrainians sent it to them as a prank, and journalistic standards in LDNR are understandably very low. Haha, I see. I just finally found the “reporter” this is supposed to originate from, and wanted to post that I couldn’t find the video on his Telegram channel. Probably still spreading elsewhere though.
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Ukraine v Russia: Mr. Zelensky why are you attacking autonomous Donbas?! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
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It's been know for a while, but obviously got some additional traction lately. Prior to becoming the glorious leader of Donbas freedom fighters, Denis Pushilin was deeply involved in the MMM pyramid scheme. No, not during the 90s, when millions of struggling ex-USSR citizens got duped out of their savings, and Mavrodi, its founder, got gaoled. It was during MMM's resurgence in 2010s, right before the 2014 events. Pushilin was even in the MMM party (there's a loophole in Ukrainian laws that allows you to essentially buy an existing party, rename it, and you don't have to go through the required registration process).   Shilling Pushilin. Paladinus fucked around with this message at 15:05 on Feb 21, 2022 |
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If you get too close the Polonium tea deploys itself. I also love that they are just sitting in chairs setup for the purpose with no desks, like kids in trouble at the principals office.
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He did claim earlier in the meeting that Biden did float a hypothetical moratorium over Ukraine’s NATO membership to him. https://t.me/rian_ru/146886 Edit: Someone at RIA is getting toilet duty https://twitter.com/liveuamap/status/1495754744983339015 cinci zoo sniper fucked around with this message at 15:32 on Feb 21, 2022 |
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Listening to this shitshow in the background and it's pretty hilarious. It's basically organized like a trial against NATO/Ukraine where every stammering halfwit in the government gets on the witness stands and tells his story and Putin sits in the middle on the throne and questions/heckles them or reminds them to get back on script. Jfc, I think the verdict of this show trial is pretty obvious
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And yet SOMEHOW this will be America's fault according to 20% of this board. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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https://twitter.com/maxseddon/status/1495768651013754887 certainly all sounds like a show to justify an oncoming war, but i guess nothing's for sure yet
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Putin will be defeated in the end by his newly developed fear of people coming within 60 feet of him creating memes that undermine his buff strongman persona
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Did you know: Ukraine is closer to having and being able to use nuclear weapons than North Korea
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Conspiratiorist posted:There's the cost associated in deploying troops, particularly reservists. Loss in fuel spent as well as from being taken out of depot conditions, and same goes for vehicles, equipment, and ammo, a lot of which is hard to replace or irreplaceable. I don't really understand the couple of posts you've made on this topic. Like, I understand that there's a maintenance cost on equipment, and that expendable supplies like munitions, food, and fuel have a cost associated with them as well. But I don't understand why this would cause multi-year procurement issues. Besides consumables, what is getting abandoned? If you brought 160,000 troops to your own border in trucks and tanks, couldn't those same 160,000 troops just, you know, drive them back (minus the trucks your soldiers traded for loaves of bread and iPhones)?
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BIG FLUFFY DOG posted:Putin will be defeated in the end by his newly developed fear of people coming within 60 feet of him creating memes that undermine his buff strongman persona Nah he’s really close but just really small. If you came upon him in a salt flat or somewhere without anything for reference you’d bump into him because you’d think he’s farther away.
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