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Paladinus posted:Is there anything they produce that Russia can't get from China? A legitimate question. Modern semiconductor chips.
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BoldFace posted:C'mon Joe, let's see Google, Microsoft, Apple, and Amazon banned from Russia. They can still use Facebook. This would be interesting, if only to see how much those companies would follow the rules. When it comes to taxes and other laws and stuff, they all say they're international and not bound by the US
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The oligarchs will surely revolt against putin when they can't get their PS5s.
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projecthalaxy posted:This would be interesting, if only to see how much those companies would follow the rules. When it comes to taxes and other laws and stuff, they all say they're international and not bound by the US US could very trivially instantly nuke every single iPhone in Russia. There’s only that much Tim Cook will do when there’s an FBI assault team storming his mansion on grounds of treason accusations.
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Paladinus posted:Is there anything they produce that Russia can't get from China? A legitimate question. Semiconductors E: damnit beaten
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cinci zoo sniper posted:US could very trivially instantly nuke every single iPhone in Russia. There’s only that much Tim Cook will do when there’s an FBI assault team storming his mansion on grounds of treason accusations.
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https://www.politico.eu/article/eu-sanctions-limit-moscow-access-eu-financial-markets/ Financial markets curbs already. Get the rouble zen counter ready, folks.
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BoldFace posted:C'mon Joe, let's see Google, Microsoft, Apple, and Amazon banned from Russia. They can still use Facebook. Banning Apple and Intel/AMD/Nvidia exports to Russia would hurt them a lot though.
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cinci zoo sniper posted:US could very trivially instantly nuke every single iPhone in Russia. There’s only that much Tim Cook will do when there’s an FBI assault team storming his mansion on grounds of treason accusations. That's not how treason works, but the US could trivially slap sanctions on companies interacting in sectors of the Russian economy in a way that would force American companies out of the market.
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In other news I've spent my entire lunch break staring at this "we will begin shortly" screen on President Biden's speech. I was hoping to be able to watch his remark
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Banning iPhone exports would increase chances of a Medvedev coup 100x.
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Sinteres posted:That's not how treason works, but the US could trivially slap sanctions on companies interacting in sectors of the Russian economy in a way that would force American companies out of the market. Sure, I didn’t intend to make that a legally precise statement. My intent was to say that US sanctions regimes may have legislative underpinnings in national security, leaning in on which would provide the federal government with more than adequate leverage over any “too big to fail” company.
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https://twitter.com/AFP/status/1496195210740744195?s=20&t=YyCIdtxom6LxFvSvoBpqyQ Russia establishes diplomatic ties with DPR and LPR
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from an alt history perspective i wonder how different this would go down, if at all, if trump got re-elected
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cinci zoo sniper posted:Modern semiconductor chips. Ah, yes, makes sense. Although it looks like China's trying to ramp up their production, too. https://www.scmp.com/tech/tech-war/article/3163668/us-china-tech-war-chinese-semiconductor-output-surged-33-cent-last
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bump_fn posted:from an alt history perspective i wonder how different this would go down, if at all, if trump got re-elected 60% chance nothing happens, and 40% chance last person he had dinner with is a MIC lobbyist and there’s 3 million American soldiers marching through the Ukrainian steppe until Mongolia.
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bump_fn posted:from an alt history perspective i wonder how different this would go down, if at all, if trump got re-elected I suspect the US would have been talking only to Putin 1 on 1 with Ukraine and the rest of the EU being frozen out. We'd probably say we had a peace deal and Russian would have eaten up the entirety of the disputed regions weeks ago. GOP House and Senate members would act very concerned but do nothing. The EU would likewise feel (and be) hosed over, but not do much.
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bump_fn posted:from an alt history perspective i wonder how different this would go down, if at all, if trump got re-elected Is the piss tape real or not in this hypothetical scenario?
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Trump was a really big fan of nukes and he would have really liked a good chance to use them
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GABA ghoul posted:Is the piss tape real or not in this hypothetical scenario? He would just say drinking piss disinfects COVID-19.
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cinci zoo sniper posted:He would just say drinking piss disinfects COVID-19. *wiping mouth* it doesn’t???
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BoldFace posted:C'mon Joe, let's see Google, Microsoft, Apple, and Amazon banned from Russia. They can still use Facebook. Ban Facebook to Russia. Only Russians can use Facebook and all Russian websites are replaced with Facebook
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cinci zoo sniper posted:He would just say drinking piss disinfects COVID-19. *zips up* it doesn't???
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I know this wouldn't affect The Discourse about covid-19 and the tape but isn't the narrative that the tape happened in like 2014 which was firmly in the before time?HisMajestyBOB posted:Ban Facebook to Russia. Only Russians can use Facebook and all Russian websites are replaced with Facebook I like this idea. Zuck can finally be named a baron like he wants
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In reality the tape is likely fictional, since the associated lore, e.g., the Steele dossier, has not held up well at all.
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https://twitter.com/michaelh992/status/1496192950463782915?t=f5Um3VVyEew5pLE13gETsQ&s=19 Russian consulate in Odessa is allegedly burning documents.
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Shes Not Impressed posted:It's Kyiv, by the way. After what happened when Poland convinced us to change the English names for their cities, it's probably just best to glass the next Slavic city that puts in a request for a name change.
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Groda posted:After what happened when Poland convinced us to change the English names for their cities, it's probably just best to glass the next Slavic city that puts in a request for a name change. Well if that's how you feel I've got
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Someone a while back had a quick and concise explanation as to why Putin is doing this now and not during the Trump administration when Trump was obviously more pliable. I didn't save the post.  Does anyone have a quick explanation?
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Doctor Butts posted:Someone a while back had a quick and concise explanation as to why Putin is doing this now and not during the Trump administration when Trump was obviously more pliable. I didn't save the post. it’s funnier
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Doctor Butts posted:Someone a while back had a quick and concise explanation as to why Putin is doing this now and not during the Trump administration when Trump was obviously more pliable. I didn't save the post. If I remember the correct piece, it said that Biden is more predictable than Trump, who could’ve gone aggro for a number of reasons.
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Doctor Butts posted:Someone a while back had a quick and concise explanation as to why Putin is doing this now and not during the Trump administration when Trump was obviously more pliable. I didn't save the post. springtime mud?
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Doctor Butts posted:Someone a while back had a quick and concise explanation as to why Putin is doing this now and not during the Trump administration when Trump was obviously more pliable. I didn't save the post. The quick explanation is that Trump was a pliable moron who would be likely to get swayed by the military chiefs and other hawks to do god knows what. Just like he basically gave a blank check to them vis a vis Syria. Remember when Trump smoked something like hundred of Russian Wagner mercs like it was nothing?
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Trump could have just as easily launched a predator missile up an oligarch's rear end as he could have done nothing at all. He was extremely unstable as far as world leaders go. Remember when he assassinated the head of Quds Force? I'm sure Putin does, and while Trump wouldn't have attacked Russia, his response or lack of response can't be quantified by Russia and so the risk was much higher
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Groda posted:After what happened when Poland convinced us to change the English names for their cities, it's probably just best to glass the next Slavic city that puts in a request for a name change. this post is dumb for a variety of reasons but you also realize that 'glass' is typically used in reference to nuking places in the desert right
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Trump never ever did a deal where he wasn't sure he was screwing the other person. Like Putin he has a zero-sum view of the world. He also doesn't care about costs if he isn't the one paying them and was willing to take extreme diplomatic risks (see: the killing of Solemani which every previous President had rejected as too escalatory). Trump might have decided he didn't care. He might also have decided that Putin's win would be his loss and that was unacceptable.
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Groda posted:After what happened when Poland convinced us to change the English names for their cities, it's probably just best to glass the next Slavic city that puts in a request for a name change. It's not the fault of the Polish language that Germans and Russians kept invading and took all their vowels away. E: Actually maybe less bad than I remembered. Just Wroclaw, Rzeszow, Szczecin, and Bydgoszcz that stand out as needing more vowels. Saladman fucked around with this message at 20:21 on Feb 22, 2022 |
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Yeah I would not want to gamble my whole operation on President Trump not listening to all the generals and natsec guys telling him how 0wnage it would be to finally win the cold war and maybe even fire nukes everyone else was too scared but not you sir you're so brave and smart mr President may i shake your hand
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