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The Unnamed One
Jan 13, 2012

"BOOM!"

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i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

look not all ideas are winners

Koirhor
Jan 14, 2008

by Fluffdaddy

What is this guy some sort of Joker?

mastershakeman
Oct 28, 2008

by vyelkin
Friend has a question:

Did the Soviet union, china, or any other communist country produce utopian sci-fi? If so what was it like

The only major English language ones I know are trek and culture, and everything Russian I've read or seen is bleak.

Nonsense
Jan 26, 2007


Conan O Brien continues to appear in DC lore

Good Soldier Svejk
Jul 5, 2010

mastershakeman posted:

Friend has a question:

Did the Soviet union, china, or any other communist country produce utopian sci-fi? If so what was it like

The only major English language ones I know are trek and culture, and everything Russian I've read or seen is bleak.

The Soviet union produced the archetype for dystopian literature: We by Yevgeny Zamyatin.

Also tons of other good dystopian sci-fi in general the best of which spent a lot of time locked in desk drawers.

Utopian not so much, but that's just a rare genre in general. Sci-fi is not really the domain of unbridled optimism, it's for thinly veiled criticism of contemporary practices.

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

(and can't post for 27 days!)

mastershakeman posted:

Friend has a question:

Did the Soviet union, china, or any other communist country produce utopian sci-fi? If so what was it like

The only major English language ones I know are trek and culture, and everything Russian I've read or seen is bleak.

I dunno if there's anything in the Soviet literary canon, but they did produce some utopic sci fi cartoons.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBOVmZgLsxk
The Mystery of the Third Planet

Fairly trippy work where space travel is treated as a humdrum fact of life. The plot is they're trying to capture a rare alien and rescue it from poacher profiteers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Id-_4dq2Mgw
Kontakt

A young artist looking for inspiration in the elements has an encounter with a psychedelic space slug. They bond over the tune of Speak Softly Love (the Godfather theme).

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x72ikwc
The Return

A cosmonaut returning from deep space is unable to come out of hibernation, and is in danger of dying. The entire world directs its broadcasts to his spacecraft to wake him up. This version doesn't have any subtitles, but you can infer what's going on.


That's all I can recall off the top of my head. The Return used to have a version uploaded to youtube but I guess it doesn't anymore. Most Soviet sci fi animation tended to be a lot bleaker.

Shear Modulus
Jun 9, 2010



Antonymous posted:

its weird that Voldemort killed like maybe 100 brits and he's somehow hitler level "take over the world" global threat. The Worst Wizard Badguy of All Time.

I guess I'm used to american movies shutting out the rest of the world but at least our badguys kill like a city worth of people not just a double decker bus

were the people he killed like, wizards who were fighting him or like the wizard government or were they just random non-wizards because he bombed a bus station

Shear Modulus
Jun 9, 2010



josh04 posted:

please. you think the greatest writer of the 21st century doesn't have this one covered?

https://twitter.com/jk_rowling/status/544946669448867841?lang=en-GB

of course the token jew is named loving goldstein

Shear Modulus
Jun 9, 2010



drat horror queefs posted:

Moshe Stereotypeberg, Jew House, CPA

she had to clarify he was a "jewish wizard" because she thinks if she just said he was jewish everyone would think he was one of the bankers

Antonymous
Apr 4, 2009

Shear Modulus posted:

were the people he killed like, wizards who were fighting him or like the wizard government or were they just random non-wizards because he bombed a bus station

I believe he killed a bunch of muggles on the street or something which breaks the "don't let muggles know about wizards" rule too. he obv. also killed several people related to the characters of the book

he's basically like the vegas shooter except he lives on the back of a MIT professor's head for a while or w/e

Antonymous
Apr 4, 2009

harry potter has some good poo poo tho like Dumbdore not giving a poo poo about harry except as a disposable weapon, almost kind disliking harry cause he has to put up with some spoiled kid and make him feel special and help him do goddamn everything. you kinda find out he was just grinning and bearing it

and then snape actually caring b/c he simped Harry's mom. Wizard judas who will be hated by all but by murdering his friend, he saved everyone. true believer martyr type thing

and neville also being able to kill voldemort... the prophesy doesn't care which one does it they both can do it cause they both fit

idk they're pretty good books despite being british. never saw the movies

Antonymous
Apr 4, 2009

I wish all politics was explained with references to Scott Pilgrim

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

Antonymous posted:

I wish all politics was explained with references to Scott Pilgrim

don't be such a Harkonnen

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

(and can't post for 27 days!)

to get to the top of the Democratic Party you must first defeat the 6 ex-leftists

Blood Boils
Dec 27, 2006

Its not an S, on my planet it means QUIPS
Harry Potter is not good books, not even within British YA fiction

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

(and can't post for 27 days!)

they were good to him, ok?

Stairmaster
Jun 8, 2012

Lol just finished watching beyond outrage and that might be an all timer for ways to end a film

Shear Modulus
Jun 9, 2010



Antonymous posted:


and then snape actually caring b/c he simped Harry's mom. Wizard judas who will be hated by all but by murdering his friend, he saved everyone. true believer martyr type thing


don't forget about the time he robbed nakatomi plaza

Zvahl
Oct 14, 2005

научный кот

Shear Modulus posted:

don't forget about the time he robbed nakatomi plaza

now I have a jewish wizard. ho-ho-ho.

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

Blood Boils posted:

Harry Potter is not good books, not even within British YA fiction

It's weird the number of people in 30s and 40s who got obsessed with it like on our fav dating apps "Must love Harry Potter"

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

https://mobile.twitter.com/ATRightMovies/status/1495795840769830918

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

https://mobile.twitter.com/BatmanAnthology/status/1495877358200528900

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

https://mobile.twitter.com/NonsenseIsland/status/1495799364400435201

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

https://mobile.twitter.com/patriottakes/status/1495241593456054291

Toph Bei Fong
Feb 29, 2008



Pener Kropoopkin posted:

As far as I can tell there was never a millenia old demigod trapped inside the body of a preteen girl in the original Eternals comic, so that's a film original.

Close. It's a preteen boy in the Gaiman era of the Eternals

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

watching deep space nine s05 e25 and loling at how the b plot is about bajor doing a non aggression pact with the dominion because the federation wont commit to a military defense of bajor and siskos advice is to negotiate and stall for time and avoid even the appearance of antagonism

this is what liberals thought good guy statecraft was a generation ago

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?

Some Guy TT posted:

bajor doing a non aggression pact with the dominion because the federation wont commit to a military defense of bajor and siskos advice is to negotiate and stall for time and avoid even the appearance of antagonism

wow that seems awfully familiar

Laterite
Mar 14, 2007

It's Gutfest '89
Grimey Drawer
later he facilitates an off the books assassination of a nominal ally when they discover fabricated evidence of a dominion attack

lol

CaptainBeefart
Mar 28, 2016



Popeye go to the bathroom now!

Tungsten
Aug 10, 2004

Your Working Boy

mastershakeman posted:

Friend has a question:

Did the Soviet union, china, or any other communist country produce utopian sci-fi? If so what was it like

The only major English language ones I know are trek and culture, and everything Russian I've read or seen is bleak.

The Year 200 by Augustin de Rojas is a cuban science fiction novel about resurrected capitalists working to undermine a worldwide communist utopia

The Doomed City by the Strugatsky brothers isn't completely bleak iirc

Good Soldier Svejk
Jul 5, 2010

Tungsten posted:


The Doomed City by the Strugatsky brothers isn't completely bleak iirc

Hard disagree.
Great book but sat in a drawer for 20 years because it was too bleak to publish and it is dark and cynical as the Strugatskys get

Monday Starts on Saturday might be a happier/closer example. Or some of their Noon stories

But their later work is not particularly keen on the USSR

Tungsten
Aug 10, 2004

Your Working Boy

Good Soldier Svejk posted:

Hard disagree.
Great book but sat in a drawer for 20 years because it was too bleak to publish and it is dark and cynical as the Strugatskys get

Monday Starts on Saturday might be a happier/closer example. Or some of their Noon stories

But their later work is not particularly keen on the USSR

gently caress, you're right, it just seemed better than what i was going through at the time

edit: but the year 200 opens with some great luxury post-scarcity socialism

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!


Doomed City is great but very dystopian

I like that Hard To Be a God was specifically meant to be a cheerful fun space fantasy set in a world where communists had solved everything and invented powerful communist kung fu when they started writing it

Anime Bernie Bro
Feb 4, 2020

FUCK MY ASSHOLE, LOL

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

(and can't post for 27 days!)

Communist Thoughts posted:

Doomed City is great but very dystopian

I like that Hard To Be a God was specifically meant to be a cheerful fun space fantasy set in a world where communists had solved everything and invented powerful communist kung fu when they started writing it

Aleksei German's "Hard to be a God" is also the best worst movie ever made. Narratively it's awful, but I don't think there's many films that are more visually striking or oozing with atmosphere. You can practically smell the squalor. Well worth watching at least once and then never watching again.
https://youtu.be/11sMDQIgggA

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?

Communist Thoughts posted:

I like that Hard To Be a God was specifically meant to be a cheerful fun space fantasy set in a world where communists had solved everything and invented powerful communist kung fu when they started writing it

drat I just read the plot summary and it sounds like some Special Circumstances poo poo. awesome.

Good Soldier Svejk
Jul 5, 2010

indigi posted:

drat I just read the plot summary and it sounds like some Special Circumstances poo poo. awesome.

It reads a bit like Space Ivanhoe or something
Very much a love letter to that style of fiction at least

Action Jacktion
Jun 3, 2003

mastershakeman posted:

Friend has a question:

Did the Soviet union, china, or any other communist country produce utopian sci-fi? If so what was it like

The only major English language ones I know are trek and culture, and everything Russian I've read or seen is bleak.

Andromeda by Ivan Yefremov.

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Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

is there any good soviet science fiction in serial television form

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