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RC and Moon Pie posted:I'm positive I had this as a child. I had the record version of this.
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Groke posted:A tiger? In Africa? The second I find out there's a shape shifting spider castrating member of my species in a region is the second I leave that region. So logically there was at least one tiger in Africa and then they all fled in absolute terror which makes sense.
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Waste of Breath posted:Hell yeah, he's a top tier trickster. It's a shame the only mainstream invocation of him has been in American Gods, compared to the exposure Loki and Maui got. There was a recurring character in Static Shock who used the power of Anansi. I liked him a lot
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Feb 23, 2022 09:11
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Tiger obviously moved out of Africa because he got tired of having his balls stolen all the time.
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Feb 23, 2022 11:59
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Anansi ate my balls
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Feb 23, 2022 12:26
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A lot of these dorks need to watch The Meaning of Life.
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Magic Hate Ball posted:I'm pretty sure it's a monty python reference. It could be... or it could be a reference to The Phantom. Which, during the earliest years, was clearly set in India; but then retconned to being set somewhere in Africa. However the presence of tigers in the wild was well-established canon; the explanation was that a bunch of them had previously escaped from a zoo, and managed to establish themselves in the local ecosystem. (That whole comic kiiiinda qualifies for this thread, or at least many decades of it.)
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Feb 23, 2022 13:20
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Groke posted:It could be... or it could be a reference to The Phantom. Which, during the earliest years, was clearly set in India; but then retconned to being set somewhere in Africa. However the presence of tigers in the wild was well-established canon; the explanation was that a bunch of them had previously escaped from a zoo, and managed to establish themselves in the local ecosystem. The Phantom is in many ways a weird case in how a lot of it has kinda settled into... an African superhero basically, who specifically spends a lot of story arcs working with African people, with the President of Bangalla as his own Commissioner Gordon, and fighting unscrupulous white people who want to exploit them, but he's still specifically a white dude. I suppose more a case of 'could be way, WAY worse', but still.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:The Phantom is in many ways a weird case in how a lot of it has kinda settled into... an African superhero basically, who specifically spends a lot of story arcs working with African people, with the President of Bangalla as his own Commissioner Gordon, and fighting unscrupulous white people who want to exploit them, but he's still specifically a white dude.  The phantom is an ally to all
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Feb 23, 2022 14:03
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Yah, even back many decades ago the Phantom was definitely not a racist [1] and had a bunch of friends and allies among the black Africans, and treated those with a decent amount of respect FOR THE TIME, but... yeah... the stories from those days may not seem very progressive by modern standards. [1] However, let's just not think too much about how the entire family line for 400 years went out of their way to only find other white people to marry, generation after generation.
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Khizan posted:Tiger obviously moved out of Africa because he got tired of having his balls stolen all the time. One time he even tricked Tiger into going to a blacksmith and getting his balls smashed with a hammer Which honestly took far too little convincing But either way, yeah moving is probably the best course of action
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Feb 23, 2022 15:07
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Pfft. "The Phantom" is just a pale imitation of the real white hero of the jungle:  Fantomah!
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Fletcher Hanks' stuff didn't age poorly because it was pure WTF to begin with.
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I bought the book of his complete works. I'm genuinely scared to open it in case it's like a Pandora's Box of insanity.
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Amusing Phantom fact: In Norway, and nowhere else, the Phantom's wife is named "Sala Palmer" instead of "Diana Palmer". This is because, back when Norway was occupied by Nazi Germany during WW2, the occupiers banned newspapers from importing and printing new stuff (such as comic strips) from Britain or the USA. But they WERE allowed to reprint old stuff. So, one of the major papers somehow managed to get new strips anyway. And printed them, but with some superficial edits to make it look like part of an older storyline. This included changing some character names; so this new girl Diana got a recycled name from an earlier supporting character. And then that stuck after the war ended, and for 77 years and counting since then. I loving swear I am not making this up.
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Randalor posted:I bought the book of his complete works. I'm genuinely scared to open it in case it's like a Pandora's Box of insanity. in that book the editor who created the book tells a story. they first discovered hanks as an obscure early comics guy about which little was known. through some detective work they thought they discovered the man himself, improbably still alive but elderly. the editor goes to hanks house to discover it is actually the comic author's son, the author himself died years ago. the son asserts that his father, who definitely did make those comics, was also a violent wife-and-child beating good for nothing alcoholic who tended to hold grudges and had a history of violent acts against others. the elder hanks eventually abandoned his family who was glad to see him go. the son never saw his father again but learned that he froze to death on a park bench on manhattan as an elderly wino. so in a way it is indeed a pandora's box of insanity, and it does explain a lot about how these comics came to be hanks could get away with his style of work because at this time, in the dawn of comics, being able to produce shitloads of content was the most important thing. audiences were hungry for content and so it was cranked out as fast as possible on an assembly line basis - this is where we get the aesthetic of simplified shapes, flat colors, simple drawings, and basic narratives. they were being produced cheap and fast, and the more stories you could pound out the more money you could make. fletcher hanks was a one-man machine, he was older than your typical comics book guy (middle aged when a lot of artist/authors were in their 20s) and he would write, draw, ink, color, letter the whole thing himself. he'd then sell the story over to a publisher who just slapped it directly into print, so there was no editorial control at any step of the process from either peers or publisher - just the pure narrative power of a violent alcoholic focused on retribution and yeah, if anything his works have aged well - they were bizarre to begin with but he found an audience after his death in the alt-comix scene, where people could really appreciate the nuances of an impossible to kill superman who exists simply to wreak horrible vengeance on criminals. like that one superman comic where supes gets hit by a drunk driver and then convinces the driver he is a ghost and he will haunt the drunk man forever, that barely scratches the surface of the wild rear end revenge stardust inflicts on various brutish enemies of democracy and decency. superman would take them to a reformatory or something, stardust is more likely to use his transformation ray to turn them into ants and then scatter them in the anteater pen at the zoo or some hosed up poo poo Mr. Fall Down Terror has a new favorite as of 23:15 on Feb 23, 2022 |
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Also it is all about the retribution for Hanks. I don't have the collections but from what I've seen online his protagonists could intervene at any time in the schemes of the bad guys, but they elect to sit back and watch until said bad guys rack up a body count worthy of the unbelievably inventive and cruel ministrations of Stardust or Fantomah or whoever
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Phy posted:Also it is all about the retribution for Hanks. I don't have the collections but from what I've seen online his protagonists could intervene at any time in the schemes of the bad guys, but they elect to sit back and watch until said bad guys rack up a body count worthy of the unbelievably inventive and cruel ministrations of Stardust or Fantomah or whoever Yes, notably his heroes like Stardust or Fantomah didn't ever stop bad things from happening but they would show up to keep it from getting worse and then do something horrible to the villain.
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aged well: One like Putin, full of strength One like Putin, who won't be a drunk One like Putin, who wouldn't hurt me One like Putin, who won't run away!
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Stardust and Fantomah are both public domain now, iirc. The Non-Adventures of Wonderella has fun with that. I think there was one Alan Moore comic or something that had Stardust or an obvious equivalent frozen in a block of ice
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Ghost Leviathan posted:I think there was one Alan Moore comic or something that had Stardust or an obvious equivalent frozen in a block of ice
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Randalor posted:I bought the book of his complete works. I'm genuinely scared to open it in case it's like a Pandora's Box of insanity. Oh, it is glorious! Just prepare yourself to read the word "fiend" - a lot.
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I bought the first collected volume of Hanks when it came out (the second and the full set wasn't out yet). It starts with you laughing and face-palming at the total absurdity of it all, but the longer you go the more you start seeing how this clearly is not the product of a healthy mind. By the time you reach the last few there's a heavy knot in your stomach knowing there's another whole volume of this that we know of.
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I don’t know where else to ask this: is there still an SA greatest sagas thread, or was that thread concept retired? I remember some bad fights happening in one, so maybe the whole idea aged poorly and is verboten, but I liked having a place to ask about old half-remembered lore.
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I think it got closed because people were using it to drag up dumb QCS drama or just generally whine about posters they didn't like.
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We had a version of the thread that lasted multiple years before it was rebooted but then we went through like three of them in a year because drama kept happening so I think it’s been put on ice
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the latest one was filled with vile transphobia pretty much immediately because i guess that's just what the site is about now
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People kept going into the thread and saying things like “looks like a current saga is starting up over in BSS” and it was just some loving guy talking about aqua man and then a QCS thread would get posted about the guys aqua man opinions and why he has not been probated for them. They kept trying to ban current forums events and it never worked, people just kept using it as a way to try to work the refs for their posting enemies.
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Feb 27, 2022 19:37
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Yeah think about the kind of posters that post in a thread just for drama. Do you really want to be around them?
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It didn’t used to be like that at all. I’m sorry to hear if it, but I understand that it would be impossible to have a set of rules that would keep the thread like what it used to be.
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I AM GRANDO posted:It didn’t used to be like that at all. I’m sorry to hear if it, but I understand that it would be impossible to have a set of rules that would keep the thread like what it used to be. Yeah, there was just too much grudge posting. The last iteration of that thread got really gross.
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I wonder if you could make it work by instituting a “if this is current drama (within the past 90 days or something) it’s an instant week probation” rule
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Rule 1: Must be 1 year ago at least Rule 2: Some white-noise nobody whining about a ban/probe is not a "saga"
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the problem in the last thread wasn't current events, even, really, it was a couple of people saying really fuckin transphobic poo poo super quick and it looking like they got away with it. (the mods did probate for it in the end, but not before a fight started about it). this illustrates the larger point, which is that the "complaining about current probations" is really a reflection of the existing fractures in the community and how people are frustrated to at each others throats about a lot of moderation and style decisions. because of this, the thread just ended up being a repeated flashpoint for poo poo like d&d vs cspam, slurs vs no-slurs, etc. ideally, jeffrey would finally post the forum rules update dealing with all this poo poo, but we're currently still stuck in the mode where it's okay to use slurs sometimes in some places and not in others, probations get endlessly relitigated, etc. and i'm not trying to start an argument about any of this, just illustrating what it is and why we're unlikely to be able to have the thread with the forums in the current state they're in.
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I'm surprised to hear that. I mostly post in Games lately, where transphobia and sympathetic takes on prejudiced shitheads employed in the video game industry are given no quarter. I've been quite impressed by it.
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Mescal posted:I'm surprised to hear that. I mostly post in Games lately, where transphobia and sympathetic takes on prejudiced shitheads employed in the video game industry are given no quarter. I've been quite impressed by it. Despite S.A.'s generally good attitude re. trans-rights and the like, there are still crypto-fascist scum hanging around.
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Games generally has good mods. A certain other forum has the most recent sagas thread. It’s the Toxic Waste Dump, because PYF mods are demonstrably not very good at their job and apparently all asleep all the time.
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I'm a asleep a lot during the day, do you think I could hack it as a PYF mod?
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BIG FLUFFY DOG posted:People kept going into the thread and saying things like “looks like a current saga is starting up over in BSS” and it was just some loving guy talking about aqua man and then a QCS thread would get posted about the guys aqua man opinions and why he has not been probated for them. I've heard from multiple sources he fucks fish.
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