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Zodium posted:they're strenuously disagreeing with that, instead opting for saying the problem is something intrinsic to (human) life. quote:Eventually a species gets good enough at that that they invent capitalism. [...] The great filter exists and we are in it.
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Feb 23, 2022 17:20
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I didn't read past the headline https://twitter.com/CNN/status/1496433738309414913?t=LawT0cHmOlMOVseNBgifIg&s=19
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Feb 23, 2022 17:41
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Mr Hootington posted:I didn't read past the headline my thumbs are putting cracks in my monitor right now
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Feb 23, 2022 17:44
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with fire not of fire
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Feb 23, 2022 17:46
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The gods were correct to punish Prometheus.
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Feb 23, 2022 17:47
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Lifting a finger to even alleviate the ongoing accelerating disaster would make a few of us sad, so you trifling little shits better get used to the fire. Stiff upper lip
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Feb 23, 2022 17:51
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Mr Hootington posted:I didn't read past the headline ok fine I'll start grinding my Fire Resist stat
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Feb 23, 2022 17:52
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Mr Hootington posted:I didn't read past the headline FIRE IS ENDEMIC WHAT ARE YOU WORRIED ABOUT? DOES NOT THAT AIR SMELL SO SWEET?
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Feb 23, 2022 17:52
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Mr Hootington posted:I didn't read past the headline 
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Feb 23, 2022 17:58
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Humanity Must Learn To Live With Mass Death
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Feb 23, 2022 18:02
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FistEnergy posted:ok fine I'll start grinding my Fire Resist stat they told me gearing up for Molten Core would have no usefulness in the "real world"
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Feb 23, 2022 18:03
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Mr Hootington posted:I didn't read past the headline beyond parody i mean i know it's been true for a while now but i mean look at this
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Feb 23, 2022 18:06
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looks like smoked meat is back on the menu
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Feb 23, 2022 18:06
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"capitalism is intrinsic to all life" is still just a variant on that. Rime posted:Is it? Non-capitalist societies existed and proliferated for all of human history, many of them persisting in stability for hundreds or thousands of years before dissolving. Capitalism, in the way we understand it, is younger than most of the nations practicing it. This is an ideology and social structure barely 300 years old. An eyeblink. It’s a mental pandemic rapidly burning itself out, along with its hosts, while a few pockets of independent thought continue to struggle through.
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Feb 23, 2022 18:07
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I say again, if society itself is not collectively conscious (this sure seems to be the case!) then individual free will is meaningless a miserable little collection of slime molds eating eachother and their substrate until none is left
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Feb 23, 2022 18:11
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Zodium posted:"capitalism is intrinsic to all life" is still just a variant on that. Capitalism and/or ideals of exponential growth don't need to be intrinsic to all life. They just need to pop up in a ruling class or two, have enough short term success to propagate, and then you're off to the races.
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Feb 23, 2022 18:13
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JeremoudCorbynejad posted:Humanity Must Learn To Live With Mass this but also it will
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Feb 23, 2022 18:14
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Zodium posted:"capitalism is intrinsic to all life" is still just a variant on that. capitalism is inimical to all life
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Feb 23, 2022 18:15
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Isnt capitalism just accounting invented for coloniation/slave economy? Like move your army to pillage different villages every few years vs capitalism what is different than the payout waterfall.
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Feb 23, 2022 18:16
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Maoism third-worldism is the light
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Feb 23, 2022 18:20
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Roughly around the time we killed God, we also invented a new god which is stupid and evil, and is destroying everything
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Feb 23, 2022 18:23
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Mr Hootington posted:I didn't read past the headline I'm not really worried about this, because the vast majority of economic activity takes place indoors (AKA a place where wildfires do not occur). We should also note that wildfires that engulf urbanized areas are not true "wild" fires. Ergo, not an issue, and we'll need to learn to live with this.
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Feb 23, 2022 18:34
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we'll just have to get used to heat domes that murder the elderly and infirm by the thousands we'll just have to learn to live with millions of acres of boreal forest turned to kindling because of pine beetles megadrought? better get used to getting up early to suck the dew off the grass just don't stop going to work
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Feb 23, 2022 18:39
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the development of capitalism depended on the particular historical circumstances on planet earth, like the presence of oil and the evolution of a species with the affordances to exploit its effectivities, not some universal teleology. the fermi paradox and attendant concept of a 'great filter' are nothing more than an expression of capitalist realism in the form of a pseudo-scientific prediction: that we would expect to see evidence of life, recognizable to a scientist in the 1950s as life, in outer space. why do we perceive no signs of intelligence elsewhere in the universe? because we have no idea what to look for besides signs of capitalist civilization, and unlike enrico fermi in the 1950s, we now know with extremely high certainty that capitalism is not a stable system we would expect to see signs of for very long on these scales. if there were a planet with a vast civilization living in harmony with the planet two systems over, we would have no way of knowing. since we would in fact not expect to see anything resembling our broken civilization anywhere for very long, the paradox is resolved, and the great filter becomes moot.SKULL.GIF posted:capitalism is inimical to all life
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Feb 23, 2022 18:42
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the epistemic rider is my favorite horseman.
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Feb 23, 2022 18:45
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learned a cool burd fact today. was feeding peanuts to animals in the central park north woods. saw redwing blackbirds, sparrows, starlings, bluejays, woodpeckers, crows, redtail hawks, cardinals, robins, and black and grey squirrels. anyway the bluejay shows up to the peanut party and does like his normal bluejay scream but then he starts doing the redtail hawk call and freaking the other animals out so he can jump down and grab some peanuts without having to tussle for them. very good impression too. scared the poo poo out of me i thought the hawk was right on top of me. anyway, no pesticides allowed in city parks is paying off pretty good
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Feb 23, 2022 19:09
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Mr Hootington posted:I didn't read past the headline well actually https://twitter.com/RogerPielkeJr/status/1440789136097505281?s=20&t=YW3b4HXshDwbOOkOjnF-6w
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Feb 23, 2022 19:28
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this guy seems like a tool https://twitter.com/RogerPielkeJr/status/1496524212412252161
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Feb 23, 2022 19:43
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I realize this isn’t what the article means, but yes we should learn to live with fire. Fire is a key component of many ecosystems even pre-climate change and our anti-fire obsessions have made it worse. Obviously a just society wouldn’t make defensible space and evacuation planning a personal responsibility but if you live near the wildland urban interface or rurally you should still prepare.
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Feb 23, 2022 19:45
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Hubbert posted:I'm not really worried about this, because the vast majority of economic activity takes place indoors (AKA a place where wildfires do not occur). i'm still amazed by how stupid this is every single time it comes up. i'm not sure which of these options is worse; that economists actually believe this, that economists actually believed someone would believe this, or that economists actually made someone believe this
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Feb 23, 2022 19:48
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FistEnergy posted:ok fine I'll start grinding my Fire Resist stat Man, I really don't want to grind for another Onyxia Scale Cloak.
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Feb 23, 2022 20:04
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Deep Dish Fuckfest posted:i'm still amazed by how stupid this is every single time it comes up. i'm not sure which of these options is worse; that economists actually believe this, that economists actually believed someone would believe this, or that economists actually made someone believe this pluto is a planet!!!
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Feb 23, 2022 21:17
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Forcing people to give up the cigarettes that they love has led to a massive decrease in the rate of ambient semi-purposeful burns which have caused the more recent fires to burn with a fury and intensity that a society of cool, mellow smokers would never yield
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Feb 23, 2022 21:22
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https://twitter.com/hausfath/status/1496547170324992010
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Feb 23, 2022 21:22
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Why did they buy these dumb graftmobiles instead of vans like pretty much all other postal services worldwide.
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Feb 23, 2022 21:30
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usps needs to operate as a business due to america sucking poo poo and its probably true that already established maintenance practices and standard fuel costs is cheaper over the short term on ice trucks than electricity and new training for mechanics and battery replacements would be on evs.
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Feb 23, 2022 21:33
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Yeah, but why buy fully custom vehicles instead of one of the many vans for left-hand drive already available? Not only is the fuel economy of these Oshkosh vehicles beyond terrible, there's no way maintenance and replacement parts on these exotic vans is cheaper than with a stock Sprinter van. And other postal services operate as a business as well, but still use electric vans. They very much are cost-effective.
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Feb 23, 2022 21:36
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also they probably have to buy domestically made vehicles or some other crap and the us ev market probably doesnt have too many reliable options available at massive fleet scale
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Feb 23, 2022 21:36
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this is america, fame. we gotta do it stupidly
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Feb 23, 2022 21:37
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^- what they said -^Fame Douglas posted:Why did they buy these dumb graftmobiles instead of vans like pretty much all other postal services worldwide. Because people recognize the LLV as a cultural icon and can’t imagine not replacing it with another icon?
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