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David Pratt posted:I know this is the VST thread, but... you should be able to achieve that with built-in devices in many DAWs. Here's how I do it in Bitwig for example. Yes, that is the most common approach. According to this article, though, the steeper the filter the more likely that taking these measures disrupts your stereo image. He includes an animated illustration in the "high pass that side" section of the post. Now what does this SOUND like? I don't know. I just like experimenting with new techniques and tools. He lists the NUGEN plug as the best available for this application, although he has some complaints about it too. (Though I believe they have fixed the polarity issue he highlighted since the article was published.)
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i’m not at all saying that you should just ignore phase issues all together but i used to be super neurotic about it until someone i look up to a lot said that they use OTT on the master and realized that nothing matters do whatever sounds good people who sell tools have a financial incentive to overrepresent how useful those tools are
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Higher dB slopes definitely (scientifically, though perhaps not so much audibly) affect phase more, that's why linear phase EQs are a thing. When I was going through one of my six monthly djent binges I watched a bunch of Misha Mansoor's Cubase vids and he explained about it a bit in one of them. Then uses a 96 dB hi shelf on his kick and snare anyway.
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Linear phase eq isn't the standard because the phase shifting introduced by eq is part and parcel of what we like in the sound of eq. The situation described in the article is a technical and super unusual one. On top of that it's not an issue at all to the person making the mix; it's only a problem if you're mastering someone else's material and don't have access to stems. If you somehow have a bass sound where the right channel is the inverted version of the left channel in your own mix, just, like, flip one of the bass' channels. I can see how the plugin useful to someone, but I can't say I've ever painted myself into the corner of needing it. I'll happily edit the patch on the synth not to be wide or something like that.
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I haven't got as far as "properly" mixing anything for a while but I'm fairly certain Frequency2 eq in Cubase Pro has the ability to mono-ise particular bands. Ozone definitely does (maybe even the free version), and I'm pretty sure FabFilter ProEQ 3 does too. I wouldn't necessarily discourage people from buying specialised plugins if that's what they want or they think it will improve their workflow or whatever, but I would absolutely advocate looking at options that do more besides too. Ozone is probably my one 3rd party effect must-have Swiss army knife soundgooderizer that isn't an ampsim (Cubase's ampsim is mostly trash, but not good Trash like Izotope Trash2) NonzeroCircle fucked around with this message at 19:21 on Jan 25, 2022 |
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watho posted:nothing matters do whatever sounds good Exactly this. If it sounds good to you it is good. There is no such thing as objectively well-mixed music, it depends entirely on your context and intent. See for example Norwegian black metal, 100 gecs, etc, etc. That being said, if you want to have fun nerding out on EQ phase that is also cool and good.
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watho posted:i’m not at all saying that you should just ignore phase issues all together but i used to be super neurotic about it until someone i look up to a lot said that they use OTT on the master and realized that nothing matters do whatever sounds good I generally agree. You just have to be at the level where you're able to translate what you hear in your head to something you can hear on your speakers. There have been occasions in the past where I did encounter audible issues that, at the time, I didn't know how to fix; I literally couldn't get it to the point where it sounded good. Now that I've more or less reached that point (*), I'm interested in more subtle things like this that aren't necessarily game-changing, but might streamline my workflow. I don't really use templates, but I've got a mixing chain in Cubase I use pretty regularly, and now the NUGEN plugin is part of my new WaveLab mastering chain. (*) It's cool to be able to take an idea and reliably turn it into something I can share with others, but it now also means that if someone doesn't like my music I can't blame the gear or technology. They just don't like my taste!
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David Pratt posted:Exactly this. If it sounds good to you it is good. There is no such thing as objectively well-mixed music, it depends entirely on your context and intent. See for example Norwegian black metal, 100 gecs, etc, etc. After spending like a decade messing with mid-range heavy bass patches and side chaining percussion just as de rigeur getting my amateur uk bass poo poo not to clip listening to Loveless was a trip lmao
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Sweet_Joke_Nectar posted:RC-20 is $20 rn at plug-in boutique This is one of those every project plugins like Decapitator.
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Audio Damage just put some bunch of still usable legacy plugins up for free, bringing the number of free plugins they have up to 35. I bought ADverb a while ago and love it for an 80's drum sound, and Rough Rider Pro is a multi band version of its popular free compressor. https://www.audiodamage.com/pages/free-and-legacy
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Waves just released a new sampler plugin called CR8. It looks pretty straightforward, similar features to TAL-Sampler, but it has an AI-based sample browser that analyzes and tags your library. https://www.waves.com/plugins/cr8-creative-sampler#introducing-cr8-creative-sampler (The intro price is $10 USD, by the way.) And the sample browser is available separately as a free standalone app: https://www.waves.com/plugins/cosmos-sample-finder#introducing-cosmos-sample-finder I currently have it analyzing my drum sample folder (38K samples). It's been chugging away for an hour, with an hour more to go- but it's pretty cool. It does use folder/filenames as cues, when present, but supposedly does deeper analysis based on the sample itself. I already have a great use for it, though. Whenever I open up old DAW projects there's always a bunch of complaints that Battery and Kontakt can't find certain samples. This will definitely help me track things down for Battery, and should be at least partially useful for Kontakt. (Sometimes when Kontakt can't find a given WAV, it's really looking for a file embedded in an NKI, not just a free-standing WAV, so Cosmos prolly won't fix those issues.)
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Does anyone know of a fairly decent (and preferably free) recorder VST? (the thing you blow into, not recording  )
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Kiwillian posted:Does anyone know of a fairly decent (and preferably free) recorder VST? (the thing you blow into, not recording https://fracturesounds.com/product/emotional-recorder/ this is a good one 
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Kiwillian posted:Does anyone know of a fairly decent (and preferably free) recorder VST? (the thing you blow into, not recording You could also use a (harsh) filter on a flute or clarinet, and play it badly  Make your own fun!
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DaWolfey posted:https://fracturesounds.com/product/emotional-recorder/ this is a good one Sadly, this needs the full version of Kontakt 
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You could also look for an ocarina VST, since they sound pretty much the same.
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Audio Damage (as mentioned earlier by OutOfPrint) and Toneboosters (V3 Portable is what I downloaded) have both put out freeware packs of their old, no longer supported plugins. No guarantees they'll run on new systems, probably not VST3 even, but the Toneboosters V3 pack for sure has some nice tools in it. Their V4 plugins are more expensive than the V3s used to be, and some users feel that the old ones actually did things a little better in some cases, though obviously you'll need to buy the newer stuff if you want current gen support, re-scalable GUIs, and more visual feedback also. Also the Surge synth got updated to a new shiny version this year. You can do so much for free right now, factoring in also Airwindows and Analog Obsession plugins. Hope everyone is doing well. Edit: Good news, maybe, Voxengo could be back up! ... Still a little unclear on what happened, and frankly the current communication from him could be a lot better. I don't want to speculate too much but people have been posting stuff from his vk.com profile where he's talked about a bunch of, frankly conspiracy nonsense, after having posted quite normally before a certain point after which it's all a mess. And then the statement he's put out about the recent outage is less than clarifying as well, seemingly showing up after the site returned but dated right before it went down: quote:February 14, 2022: Dear Voxengo users, I hadn't heard anything about that. Seems to obliquely blame this stressed-out business partner who is now, according to this press release, out of the picture. Doesn't really get into the questions that have understandably been put to him, about customer information leaking, and other matters related to the unexpected downtime. It's an unusual situation given the above context. But I have been able to log in with my normal credentials and the web site appears to be working as anticipated, has my licenses in the user area so I've made sure to back those up this time, and someone else verified that the installers have identical hashes to the installers before this outage occurred as well. Agreed fucked around with this message at 21:15 on Feb 23, 2022 |
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uh, here's a thing https://bedroomproducersblog.com/2022/02/22/kia-movement-instrument/ KIA (Yes, The Car Manufacturer) Released A FREE Virtual Instrument quote:KIA released move.ment, a freeware virtual instrument in VST plugin format for Windows and macOS. The promotional video is ridiculous https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FpbDEnVbckA&t=59s Someone download it and tell us if it sounds any good.
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Agreed posted:Edit: Good news, maybe, Voxengo could be back up! ... Still a little unclear on what happened, and frankly the current communication from him could be a lot better. I don't want to speculate too much but people have been posting stuff from his vk.com profile where he's talked about a bunch of, frankly conspiracy nonsense, after having posted quite normally before a certain point after which it's all a mess. "I would suggest to rat against corporations that do not have a public logotype. Voxengo had a logotype initially, but in an unprofessional way, which was changed later. It's a legitimately purchased and licensed work of art." "Gogle is GO to gle... Glegoo ?" "Google logotype is extremely unprofessional. It does not have a leading logotype behind its naming."
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It gets much weirder than that on his vk.com profile, to put it mildly, and his site now also has a message noting he is on vacation until the 27th of February and will not be answering support email til then. At GS mods shut his most recent product announcement thread down after deleting a ton of speculation about his mental health. I have never known him to act like this / communicate like that, and it is not how he handled an outage back in the 2010s, I really don't know. I hope he will be OK and things can get back to normal - he is certainly a very gifted audio DSP coder, generous with support over two decades now.
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Plugin Alliance is running an any with few exceptions $29.99 coupon code now: ANY-2999-1. This is code one of three, expires midnight 2/26 PST. I just picked up this and will try it later tonight when I can get to my computer: https://www.plugin-alliance.com/en/products/bx_console_focusrite_sc.html Their amp sims are great and bx_masterdesk goes on every song I make. It's definitely worth a look.
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Checked the installation manager, I'm at 55 plugin alliance VSTs at this time - if you go in past a certain point you get a $75 voucher every month, and at least while I've been a customer they've always had some opportunity to use it wisely to get some of the products at like $12-$15 each. For example, I just got the Amek 200 EQ and Lindell 50 at $24 for both with the $75 voucher, a few days before this sale started. I paid average of $10 per for their amp sims, have just about all of those now (which got me into Igor Nembrini's personal releases under his own brand - the most recent of which, Hivolt 103 is for certain my favorite Hiwatt sim at this time - his amps are sensitive to gain staging but when you get the levels correct, they're goood). The easy "good deals" are when they run products at $39.99 and you can use a monthly $25 (or survey, when they have that going on) voucher to get them down to under $15, but there are other good opportunities if you're after the plugins too if you are attentive to flash sales and snipe with vouchers. Folks will often give them away toward the end of the month, check around places where Plugin Alliance is discussed on the 'net for chances to get those if you aren't invested yet. It takes time and strategy to get those prices, though, $29 is like industry standard for "nice" plugins and I do believe many of these PA products are very nice, having used them on my tracks last year and this year. Agreed fucked around with this message at 03:32 on Feb 28, 2022 |
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Sweet_Joke_Nectar posted:RC-20 is $20 rn at plug-in boutique Rc-20 owns
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Agreed posted:Checked the installation manager, I'm at 55 plugin alliance VSTs at this time - if you go in past a certain point you get a $75 voucher every month, and at least while I've been a customer they've always had some opportunity to use it wisely to get some of the products at like $12-$15 each. For example, I just got the Amek 200 EQ and Lindell 50 at $24 for both with the $75 voucher, a few days before this sale started. I paid average of $10 per for their amp sims, have just about all of those now (which got me into Igor Nembrini's personal releases under his own brand - the most recent of which, Hivolt 103 is for certain my favorite Hiwatt sim at this time - his amps are sensitive to gain staging but when you get the levels correct, they're goood). If anyone is in need of a $75 voucher hit me up next month. Nothing new is coming out and I have everything I need... Gave the last three out over on GS but goons > GS imo
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So Aurora DSP of Poland are doing a 100% of revenue donation "sale" / charitable event with -50% off prices if you use the coupon "SupportUkraine" at checkout, supporting the Ukraine Red Cross - link for anyone who would like to contribute directly themselves without worrying about a plugin. When their "Rhino" virtual amp came out I tried it and thought it had some neat capabilities but unusual low frequencies. In retrospect it was worth a closer look, that doesn't end up being the case when accounting for the various tone shaping options. Having bought it to contribute, I've made an impression video jamming with it while I mess with the controls some: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4ECLLenRJI A lot of elements in it could use some form of automatic gain compensation, but lacking that you'll need to use the output level slider to adjust things manually as you change settings sometimes (as you can see in the video). I have a post's worth of stuff in the video description if you click through, please feel free if you want to know more! But here are some quick thoughts I posted on GS earlier: "I think the sim loads up with way too much bass, and it gives an unusual impression of the sound at first, but it is no coincidence that this has six different low frequency adjustments across 5 of its different sections, all of which are subtractive (only some boost, ones you'd expect). There's good stuff in this and it has, in my opinion, a nicely presented toolkit for getting different tones without ever seeming too concerned about copying specific amps. I think I will be using it, I like its lead characteristic and it sounds like it might be pretty easy to mix. Really like the "quadrant" IR loader - it's got me installing their free FenrIR software to see if it does something similar that I might pair with other sound sources [narrator: FenrIR does not have the quadrant loader], but it's quite cool being able to load up 4 custom IRs and drag between them to mix easily. My current tools rely on me adjusting each IR individually and this is a lot quicker, albeit at the cost of individual panning controls for each IR that I do make use of in some of my other software - can be helpful in getting your stereo image how you want, but I have not felt held back by Rhino's IR loader at all personally, quite the opposite. I think it has well-selected stock IRs, too, you can do a lot to shape your sound before you get into your personal collection and folks in a hurry for their tone will probably appreciate that." I feel this has good potential for sound design with my synths. Even that big rear end lows thing will probably be really cool in the right context. Synths love guitar amps, and this one is pretty far-out in how it can go outside the lines of conventional, skeuomorphic amp sims trying to give you a close emulation of specific gear. If I haven't mentioned yet, I'm going nuts for Dr. Bonkers cabinet IRs. Just about the best I've used, really quick to work with too. His approach is less about drowning you with a ton of options some of which are questionably useful and more about giving you a bunch of actually good sounding IRs that put you where you want to be quicker. I really appreciate this - back in the 2000s I didn't care going through massive packs and finding The One even if it took a while, but I have three kids now and one of 'em's still only about 4 months old, I don't get to sit down and play as much as I used to and I need to use my time more efficiently if I am going to get things recorded. I own two of his packs so far, being his Hiwatt 4x12 and his Harry Kolbe Soundsmith 4x12 packs, and they are both great and also combine well together. Really pleased, definitely getting more as I see the need. Eyeing his Vox 1x10 cab IR now, to combine with Nembrini's great DC30 amp sim. ---- Edit Feb 28: G-Sonique, plugin developer from the Slovak Republic, has offered to give software as a reward/incentive for anyone who donates to a Ukrainian charity and shows them proof. Details elsewhere. Agreed fucked around with this message at 19:21 on Feb 28, 2022 |
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I only own a single Izotope plugin (VocalSynth), but they're offering me a "loyalty offer" to get some of their bundles at a steep discount until the end of the month. Music Production Suite 4.1 for $299USD: https://www.izotope.com/en/shop/music-production-suite-4.html Mix & Master Bundle Advanced for $199: https://www.izotope.com/en/shop/mix-master-bundle-advanced.html Both bundles include Ozone 9, Nectar 3, and Neutron 3 (which I think are $199 each if bought separately?), which I'm kinda interested in. Anyone here use any of these products? (Ozone, Nectar, Neutron)? Have they helped you achieve results you couldn't otherwise? I'm always looking for ways to tweak my workflow, but I'm also trying to be wise about my spends...
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ozone has a really really good automatic release algorithm on its maximizer. i also use trash 2 a lot. never really hosed that much with neutron i don’t find channel strip type plugins that useful
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I use Ozone 9 regularly, and Neutron 3 and Nectar 3 less frequently- I don't do much with vocals atm but Nectar is solid and has a lot of common vocal processing tools in one place. Neutron's AI stuff is really neat, and it's something I really need to explore more, especially as instances of it in a project can 'talk' to each other. It's not as much as an instant magic bullet like Ozone often appears to be but it can quickly get things to a tweakable polished state- it won't do all the work for you but it'll get you nearby. It's like a train rather than a taxi. If you don't have things that tread similar ground already (looking at you, FabFilter Pro Q3 etc) then it's decent for more techy things like sorting out frequency masking between tracks. As with a lot of these things, it's whether the workflow works for you or not. All the recent Izotope stuff is NKS compatible so if any Native Instruments hardware is part of your setup, like a Maschine or one of their keyboard controllers, they integrate very well with that. Trash 2, Breaktweaker and Iris 2 are must haves whenever they are offered as freebies or for under a tenner on Plugin Boutique. Trash 2 is so far beyond just a distortion unit its unreal. The latter two are a bit out there as instruments but the sample libraries they come with are incredible and come supplied in standard formats so you can use them however.
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yeah i’ve owned breaktweaker for 6 years now and i’ve only ever used it in one released song. the fact that it’s called breaktweaker but can’t really be used for working with breaks is very funny to me
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I haven't really been able to get what I want out of Trash 2. I know that's a me thing so someday, I'm sure I'll get through it all. That day is not today, though.
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there’s a few shapes that are very good bread and butter ones. push-pull is good for more subtle stuff while crunchy grunge and crungey grunch are great for a little more heavy but not too out there drive. the multiband mode is great for when you want to keep the sub clean when you’re doing some heavily distorted basses or kick drums, the compressor is pretty drat good, and the convolver and delay are very situational but i used them sometimes. the fact that there’s a pre and a post filter is always useful because sometimes you love how a boost pre distortion affects the sound but need to turn it down a bit afterwards to help it sit well in the mix.
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Radiapathy posted:I only own a single Izotope plugin (VocalSynth), but they're offering me a "loyalty offer" to get some of their bundles at a steep discount until the end of the month. I have a few of their VSTs and they hound me every day with loyalty offers. I only buy their more toy-like ones though, I've had such fun just playing a Trump speech through stutter edit so many times. Anybody ever play with reMIDI?
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Thanks for the input on Izotope. I am half-sold on getting the cheaper "Mix & Master" bundle. That Total Balance Control looks like an interesting approach at referencing. I try to mix on monitors whenever possible, but my monitors are pretty small and I have to keep the volume down when working late at night, so I'm interested in tools that help visualize potential problems. I just noticed I have a Trash 2 license; I think it was a Plugin Boutique freebie or something. I should check it out.
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Radiapathy posted:I only own a single Izotope plugin (VocalSynth), but they're offering me a "loyalty offer" to get some of their bundles at a steep discount until the end of the month. Those are decent crossgrade prices, just be aware that they do similar sales like this a few times per year, so don't feel pressure to act now. Also, completely ignore izotope's MSRP, they exist just to make the sales look good. Their Elements packs supposedly cost $129 each, but these are all packs they've given out for free in the past, and probably aren't worth more than $10-30 a pop based on what they contain. For reference, I believe I got Ozone Advanced for ~$100, which then opened up $200 crossgrade to MPS sale in the future (so $300 total, in line with your offer, minus what you paid for VocalSynth). The discounts do tend to be larger when they're about to release a new version of something (in hopes that you'll then want to upgrade to the new version when it's released). I think Ozone Advanced is great for being able to quickly self 'master' WIP tracks, or just tracks in general that you're never going to bother actually paying someone to master. RX is also great if it covers any of your needs, just be aware that MPS only comes with Standard, so pay attention to whether your need something that's only offered in Advanced (also note that you can use Spleeter, which is what izotope uses under the hood, to manually accomplish their Music Rebalance feature). I mainly did the MPS crossgrade to get VocalSynth and RX, so I'm not as familiar with the other products. IMO the main perk of Nectar is it comes with Melodyne Essential, but I don't record vocals all that often. I've used it in conjunction with VocalSynth a few times, and while it's nice to have all those tools contained in a single interface, I'm not sure it's offering too much that you can't get elsewhere (e.g. dynamic EQ based on sidechain input). I haven't had much opportunity to really dive into Neutron. It looks pretty powerful for getting an acceptable mix quickly, but it also seems like you need to commit to using Neutron on almost every track/bus to really get the most out of it. Outside of its AI stuff (which is what seems to work best when using it on all tracks), it again doesn't offer too much that you can't get from stock effects or cheap/free plugins, but like Ozone the benefit seems to be that it can get you to an acceptable place quickly and without having to have too much skill/technique/experience mixing. Neutron has much less appeal than Ozone for me, as mixing (and control of the mix) is part of the skill set I've been developing as a producer, whereas mastering is something I don't want to think about/learn.
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oh yeah RX is very specialized in what it does but if you have a use for it it’s so loving good. i know that was a hell of a non-sentence but like for me it’s just a very good tool for getting recordings done in not ideal situations up to snuff and it also has some very good batch processing tools. it’s relatively niche stuff for this thread but it’s saved me quite a few headaches
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