[Premodern history] the year of the two fatal eruptions

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Alhazred: Feb 16, 2011

https://twitter.com/aniceburrito/status/1491811157983825930

# ? Feb 14, 2022 21:15

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# ? Jun 2, 2024 10:35

ContinuityNewTimes: Dec 30, 2010; Я выдуман напрочь

Alhazred posted:

https://twitter.com/aniceburrito/status/1491811157983825930

# ? Feb 14, 2022 21:34

Some Guy TT: Aug 30, 2011

https://mobile.twitter.com/AlisonFisk/status/1493651410445029386

# ? Feb 15, 2022 22:43

Real hurthling!: Sep 11, 2001

greek guyishly: "you see that thing? i'm calling it a river horse"

# ? Feb 15, 2022 22:48

Azathoth: Apr 3, 2001

Real hurthling! posted:

greek guyishly: "you see that thing? i'm calling it a river horse"

don't try to ride it though

...

poor dumbastocles...

# ? Feb 15, 2022 22:57

Alhazred: Feb 16, 2011

Here's something I find fascinating. This lump of pitch was used as chewing gum by girl from Denmark 6000 years ago.

Scientists have been able to extract enough dna from the lump to know what she might have looked like and they also found remains of what she had eaten which was mallard and nuts:

# ? Feb 16, 2022 15:44

FizFashizzle: Mar 30, 2005

https://twitter.com/artifacthub_/status/1493510789382094851?s=21

Taking my wife back to the bone hut y�know what I�m saying

# ? Feb 16, 2022 16:58

Barry Foster: Dec 24, 2007; What is going wrong with that one (face is longer than it should be)

FizFashizzle posted:

https://twitter.com/artifacthub_/status/1493510789382094851?s=21

Taking my wife back to the bone hut y�know what I�m saying

That is metal as gently caress

# ? Feb 16, 2022 17:08

sullat: Jan 9, 2012

Barry Foster posted:

That is metal as gently caress

I don't think there's any metal involved in it.

# ? Feb 16, 2022 21:10

Dameius: Apr 3, 2006

sullat posted:

I don't think there's any metal involved in it.

Nope, just the bone dome if you know what I mean.

# ? Feb 16, 2022 21:25

i say swears online: Mar 4, 2005

in phoenicia they call it getting some bronze dome

# ? Feb 16, 2022 22:16

Some Guy TT: Aug 30, 2011

https://mobile.twitter.com/OptimoPrincipi/status/1493877111752437761

# ? Feb 17, 2022 02:19

Charlatan Eschaton: Feb 23, 2018

Alhazred posted:

Here's something I find fascinating. This lump of pitch was used as chewing gum by girl from Denmark 6000 years ago.

Scientists have been able to extract enough dna from the lump to know what she might have looked like and they also found remains of what she had eaten which was mallard and nuts:

# ? Feb 17, 2022 05:41

Some Guy TT: Aug 30, 2011

https://mobile.twitter.com/AlisonFisk/status/1494364313200562179

# ? Feb 18, 2022 16:42

MonsieurChoc: Oct 12, 2013; Every species can smell its own extinction.

Anyone know what's the best book on Oda Nobunaga?

# ? Feb 18, 2022 17:01

Zvahl: Oct 14, 2005; научный кот

MonsieurChoc posted:

Anyone know what's the best book on Oda Nobunaga?

the only primary source that has been translated (still!) is ota gyuichi's The Chronicle of Lord Nobunaga, I can't vouch for the quality of the translation though

if you aren't deep into sengoku poo poo I'd start with Chaplin's Sengoku Jidai. Nobunaga, Hideyoshi, and Ieyasu: Three Unifiers of Japan, or maybe War and State Building in Medieval Japan by Ferejohn and Rosenbluth, neither is going to get up nobunaga's rear end quite so much as the first one but if you're looking in English most of it's going to be broader than what you're looking for

# ? Feb 18, 2022 17:13

Jel Shaker: Apr 19, 2003

holy heck, fall of civilization podcast just released a new episode after 1+ years

# ? Feb 18, 2022 17:58

Zvahl: Oct 14, 2005; научный кот

MonsieurChoc posted:

Anyone know what's the best book on Oda Nobunaga?

also digging down a bit deeper into things I have not personally read, people seem to have a high regard for Japonius Tyrannus by Lamers, and while I'm put off by the book's ability to be neutral about a lot of things given the title it seems regarded but dry

# ? Feb 18, 2022 19:39

MonsieurChoc: Oct 12, 2013; Every species can smell its own extinction.

Zvahl posted:

the only primary source that has been translated (still!) is ota gyuichi's The Chronicle of Lord Nobunaga, I can't vouch for the quality of the translation though

if you aren't deep into sengoku poo poo I'd start with Chaplin's Sengoku Jidai. Nobunaga, Hideyoshi, and Ieyasu: Three Unifiers of Japan, or maybe War and State Building in Medieval Japan by Ferejohn and Rosenbluth, neither is going to get up nobunaga's rear end quite so much as the first one but if you're looking in English most of it's going to be broader than what you're looking for

Zvahl posted:

also digging down a bit deeper into things I have not personally read, people seem to have a high regard for Japonius Tyrannus by Lamers, and while I'm put off by the book's ability to be neutral about a lot of things given the title it seems regarded but dry

Thanks, I'll see if I can find them.

# ? Feb 19, 2022 00:39

etalian: Mar 20, 2006

FizFashizzle posted:

https://twitter.com/artifacthub_/status/1493510789382094851?s=21

Taking my wife back to the bone hut y�know what I�m saying

The "This guy fucks" dwelling

# ? Feb 19, 2022 13:28

Big Beef City: Aug 15, 2013

Pre-modern history: Welcum 2 da Trunk Bunk

# ? Feb 19, 2022 13:40

Mr. Sharps: Jul 30, 2006; The only true law is that which leads to freedom. There is no other.

FizFashizzle posted:

https://twitter.com/artifacthub_/status/1493510789382094851?s=21

Taking my wife back to the bone hut y�know what I�m saying

one upside of climate change turning the permafrost into regular frost is a burgeoning mammoth scrimshaw trade. there�s a shop here where I�m pretty sure you could buy all the requisite parts needed for a mammoth bone zone of your own

# ? Feb 21, 2022 01:00

Centrist Committee: Aug 6, 2019

Jel Shaker posted:

holy heck, fall of civilization podcast just released a new episode after 1+ years

I�m waiting for the upload with accompanying visuals

# ? Feb 21, 2022 08:30

sullat: Jan 9, 2012

etalian posted:

The "This guy fucks" dwelling

Do you sleep in a hut made of mammoth bones?

No, I sleep in a hut with my wife.

# ? Feb 21, 2022 17:24

Some Guy TT: Aug 30, 2011

https://mobile.twitter.com/AlisonFisk/status/1495676797744259072

whats hnefatafl

# ? Feb 22, 2022 01:29

Agean90: Jun 28, 2008

Some Guy TT posted:

https://mobile.twitter.com/AlisonFisk/status/1495676797744259072

whats hnefatafl

Yet Another Regional Varient Of Chess. In this case only one side has a king, starts in the center of the board, and has to escape to win.

# ? Feb 22, 2022 01:42

Ghostlight: Sep 25, 2009; maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me

a derivative of latrunculi

# ? Feb 22, 2022 01:43

i say swears online: Mar 4, 2005

Agean90 posted:

Yet Another Regional Varient Of Chess. In this case only one side has a king, starts in the center of the board, and has to escape to win.

that rules

# ? Feb 22, 2022 01:48

Agean90: Jun 28, 2008

Board game history seems interesting, like I say it's a regional variant of chess but like there's this entire family of board games based off like a persian boardgame thats the precursor to chess and a bunch of it's other cousins, like species radiation spreading out on trade routes and getting changed by whatever locality it takes root in

# ? Feb 22, 2022 01:52

indigi: Jul 20, 2004; ^{how can we not talk about family

when family's all that we got?}

Some Guy TT posted:

https://mobile.twitter.com/AlisonFisk/status/1495676797744259072

whats hnefatafl

nothing much what�s hnefatafl with you

# ? Feb 22, 2022 02:35

Peanut Butler: Jul 25, 2003

Agean90 posted:

Board game history seems interesting, like I say it's a regional variant of chess but like there's this entire family of board games based off like a persian boardgame thats the precursor to chess and a bunch of it's other cousins, like species radiation spreading out on trade routes and getting changed by whatever locality it takes root in

rogue is a chesslike

# ? Feb 22, 2022 02:38

Antonymous: Apr 4, 2009

There are a lot of things whose form seems to hang on way too long, like chess or the orchestra or formal attire...

Like there's nothing less tribal about a black silk tie than a Kente Cloth. If anything the tie is more frilly and decorative, more "exotic". Orchestra was where musicians tested out new music but now it's all classic german stuff. Shakespeare pays the bills at a lot of theaters. Chess had house rules that became whole new games but now it's codified sorta. In China they have their own forms but people get married wearing white and learn violin and piano as the gold standard of musical instruments...

It's like time stopped right when aristocracy was replaced in Europe and that's all we get worldwide as the high class stuff and it's sort of an untouchable relic much like how a pharoh might wear the same hat as a predecessor millenia earlier, while that predecesor picked it because it looked nice

# ? Feb 22, 2022 03:18

Ghostlight: Sep 25, 2009; maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me

some might say there was an "end" to "history"

# ? Feb 22, 2022 03:37

Peanut Butler: Jul 25, 2003

Ghostlight posted:

some might say there was an "end" to "history"

stop it professor fukuyama you have already been permabanned

# ? Feb 22, 2022 03:52

Dameius: Apr 3, 2006

Does anyone know of any good surveys on the history of Vietnam? It got touched on for me when I took a piracy class and we covered the South China Sea but never went that deep. I always wanted to circle back and learn more about their dynamic with China over the centuries. It can be a broad overview, I'd just like to pick up a basic functional literacy in their history. Also doesn't need to be a book, any kind of media or recorded presentations/open courses would be fine too.