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Trivia
Feb 8, 2006

I'm an obtuse man,
so I'll try to be oblique.

BiggerBoat posted:

I remember not too long ago and even when I was growing up that Russia = Bad.

Watching RWM and Trump sucking Putin's dick to where all that is backwards now sure has been a thing

But Southern Strategy definitely isn't a thing no siree Bob.

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STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

Watching you sleep.

Butt first, let's
check the feeds.

BiggerBoat posted:

I remember not too long ago and even when I was growing up that Russia = Bad.

Watching RWM and Trump sucking Putin's dick to where all that is backwards now sure has been a thing

Russia was still bad to the right up until 2016. Its just Trump's naked embrace of all authoritarians and in particular Putin since he is himself so Pro-Trump that suddenly made Vladimir Putin their hero.

Although there probably was a little random hero worship of the guy during Obama's term. Trump after all didn't come from nowhere. But like Romney as recently as the 2012 election was calling Russia the greatest threat to America.

Twelve by Pies
May 4, 2012

Again a very likpatous story
Remember when Romney said that Russia was a threat during one of the debates and Obama said "The 80s called, they want their foreign policy back."

Ha ha, he sure did drone bomb a bunch of people in the Middle East.

BiggerBoat posted:

I remember not too long ago and even when I was growing up that Russia = Bad.

Watching RWM and Trump sucking Putin's dick to where all that is backwards now sure has been a thing

If you mention this around a right winger they will respond by saying "BUT AKSHUALLY Trump put the harshest sanctions on Russia that there's ever been, so he can't possibly have liked Putin!"

Never mind that Biden is also going to put sanctions on Russia and this proves that he is weak and pathetic.

azflyboy
Nov 9, 2005

STAC Goat posted:

Russia was still bad to the right up until 2016.

It was to some people.

I knew quite a few proto-chuds who were rabidly in favor of Putin before Trump announced he was running for president, because Putin was encouraging Russians to attack homosexuals, Muslims, and not-white people.

Oddly, several of these proto-chuds were former military, so I never quite managed to figure out how they squared their Putin worship with having been in an institution that spent a half century planning to fight Russia.

OgNar
Oct 26, 2002

They tapdance not, neither do they fart
He shoulda known that judgment was going to be swift on this.
$250 blown

Lemniscate Blue
Apr 21, 2006

Here we go again.

OgNar posted:

He shoulda known that judgment was going to be swift on this.
$250 blown



NFTs eat your heart out, because that's what $250 worth of jpg looks like.

Scholtz
Aug 24, 2007

Zorchin' some Flemoids

What are the repercussions for doing a charge back at Truth dot com?

azflyboy
Nov 9, 2005

Scholtz posted:

What are the repercussions for doing a charge back at Truth dot com?

Probably depends on who their payment processor is.

Most of the big payment processors will either just eat the chargeback or respond with a form letter telling the credit card company that dispute the chargeback (which the card company usually sides with), but some of the sketchy ones that handle really shady porn sites or "adult dating" services will threaten people with fraud charges if they try and do a chargeback.

I have no clue what payment processers think of Trump, but I'd assume gullible chuds are good business, so Truth may not have any issues with that side of the business.

greazeball
Feb 4, 2003



I thought that $250 thing was bunk, is there more evidence than a single screenshot from a different RW grift app?

At any rate, I bet payment processors are delighted to work with the grifters since they will definitely auto opt-in their users for any subscription fees and plenty of them won't remember to cancel even long after the app stops working fails to launch.

Skios
Oct 1, 2021

STAC Goat posted:

Russia was still bad to the right up until 2016.

I mean, Trump definitely mainstreamed support for Putin, but among the more hardcore Evangelical crowd there was definitely support for Putin even before then because he was hard on the icky gays.

OgNar
Oct 26, 2002

They tapdance not, neither do they fart

greazeball posted:

I thought that $250 thing was bunk, is there more evidence than a single screenshot from a different RW grift app?

At any rate, I bet payment processors are delighted to work with the grifters since they will definitely auto opt-in their users for any subscription fees and plenty of them won't remember to cancel even long after the app stops working fails to launch.

The only thing I can find are various places debunking the $4.99/wk charge that some places were stating.
Saying that it is free to download.
But thats it.
I mean who wants to DL it and give them some info to test it?

GoutPatrol
Oct 17, 2009

*Stupid Babby*

OgNar posted:

He shoulda known that judgment was going to be swift on this.
$250 blown



Rip to a real one

Twelve by Pies
May 4, 2012

Again a very likpatous story
Always love how the right wing attempts at social media that claim to champion free speech will immediately ban anyone they suspect of being even remotely liberal.

Jarvisi
Apr 17, 2001

Green is still best.

OgNar posted:

The only thing I can find are various places debunking the $4.99/wk charge that some places were stating.
Saying that it is free to download.
But thats it.
I mean who wants to DL it and give them some info to test it?

I would loving love to download it and see how long I can go without being banned, but it's ios only.

Kaiju Cage Match
Nov 5, 2012




OgNar posted:

He shoulda known that judgment was going to be swift on this.
$250 blown



As someone who is out of the loop, can I get an explanation of Devin Nunes and cows?

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

Kaiju Cage Match posted:

As someone who is out of the loop, can I get an explanation of Devin Nunes and cows?

Devin Nunes' family own a dairy farm that allegedly got some kickbacks. Someone made an account on twitter pretending to be one of the cows on the farm to blow the whistle and mostly make fun of Devin Nunes via retweets about him being a dickhead. Rather than laugh this off, Devin Nunes sued the cow account for defamation and lost like a giant idiot.

Nenonen
Oct 22, 2009

Mulla on aina kolkyt donaa taskussa
It's good that Devin Nunes finally has a safe space to stay in.

pop fly to McGillicutty
Feb 2, 2004

A peckish little mouse!

Zwabu posted:

So how are Fox (and friends) portraying current Russia/Ukraine events?

They're a mouthpiece of Russia



https://twitter.com/TuckerCarlson/status/1496302694088257539?s=19

Angry_Ed
Mar 30, 2010




Grimey Drawer

There's some bile fascination with how Tucker and other RWM figures have perfected cognitive dissonance and hypocrisy so they can pretend to decry racism and then say something incredibly racist in the same sentence.

HootTheOwl
May 13, 2012

Hootin and shootin
Oh, are you going to jail?

HootTheOwl
May 13, 2012

Hootin and shootin

Zwabu posted:

So how are Fox (and friends) portraying current Russia/Ukraine events?

Biden so weak Putin thinks he can walk all over him.
Why was biden so slow to respond to sanctions (which are also super weak and lame, unlike giving them lethal aid. How come Obama gave them blankets and there wa sno invasion under Trump. Really mkes you think!)

VitalSigns
Sep 3, 2011


He's right

Our real enemies are the billionaires and the millionaire mouthpieces they fund like Tucker Carlson

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug

VitalSigns posted:

He's right

Our real enemies are the billionaires and the millionaire mouthpieces they fund like Tucker Carlson

I mean... Putin is a billionaire and effectively funds RT as president for life.

pop fly to McGillicutty
Feb 2, 2004

A peckish little mouse!

VitalSigns posted:

He's right

Our real enemies are the billionaires and the millionaire mouthpieces they fund like Tucker Carlson

You're using lots of words to say "Putin"

Neito
Feb 18, 2009

😌Finally, an avatar the describes my love of tech❤️‍💻, my love of anime💖🎎, and why I'll never see a real girl 🙆‍♀️naked😭.

pop fly to McGillicutty posted:

You're using lots of words to say "Putin"

I'd argue that Zucc and Musk and the other billionares are just as much of a threat as Putin.

selec
Sep 6, 2003

CommieGIR posted:

I mean... Putin is a billionaire and effectively funds RT as president for life.

Nobody who works for Putin ever denied my insurance claim. Putin didn’t make anybody decide jail phone calls should cost more than outpatient surgery. Putin didn’t decide that corporations are people, my friend. Putin isn’t the Kochs, the Mercers, the Sacklers or the Waltons.

I know who my enemies are.

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug

selec posted:

Nobody who works for Putin ever denied my insurance claim. Putin didn’t make anybody decide jail phone calls should cost more than outpatient surgery. Putin didn’t decide that corporations are people, my friend. Putin isn’t the Kochs, the Mercers, the Sacklers or the Waltons.

I know who my enemies are.

He's a kleptocrat. He's all these people and more. And even more: He's a Right Wing fascist president-for-life.

Perfect fit for this thread.

Taerkar
Dec 7, 2002

kind of into it, really

Neito posted:

I'd argue that Zucc and Musk and the other billionares are just as much of a threat as Putin.

As far as we know neither Zucc nor Musk have the ability to launch nukes.

killer_robot
Aug 26, 2006
Grimey Drawer
Right wing chuds don't mind Russia right now because it's not Communists. Repubs don't hate Russia as an entity, they hate anything smacking of leftist politics and that's def not the guy in charge now.

The guy in charge now is a right wing, strong armed authoritarian chud who MAY have been a communist at some point in time working under the communists -- but Trump was also left wing once until he got better/memory holed.

He's one of them. They love it.

moonmazed
Dec 27, 2021

by VideoGames

selec posted:

Nobody who works for Putin ever denied my insurance claim. Putin didn’t make anybody decide jail phone calls should cost more than outpatient surgery. Putin didn’t decide that corporations are people, my friend. Putin isn’t the Kochs, the Mercers, the Sacklers or the Waltons.

I know who my enemies are.

only one thing can be bad at a time. got it

Bizarro Kanyon
Jan 3, 2007

Something Awful, so easy even a spaceman can do it!


Putin has been pretty adamant about recreating the Soviet Union. While it may not be communistic as before the 80s, it will definitely be totalitarian and a threat to our economic interests.

They will care when a non-Trump candidate is in office. Then it will return to Pinko Commies and a Red Scare that goes right with Texas’ current poo poo works.

VitalSigns
Sep 3, 2011

pop fly to McGillicutty posted:

You're using lots of words to say "Putin"

I mean ... yeah

The billionaires here are a more immediate threat, but yes Putin should be overthrown too hopefully by the Russian people

selec
Sep 6, 2003

moonmazed posted:

only one thing can be bad at a time. got it

It’s bad that Russia is being an aggressive regional power. Invasion is bad. But not my business.

dr_rat
Jun 4, 2001

selec posted:

It’s bad that Russia is being an aggressive regional power. Invasion is bad. But not my business.

You know that house that's on sale a few doors down from you, well I have it on good authority Putin just brought it.

Know who's thinking getting invaded by their neighbors isn't their business. :colbert:

Twelve by Pies
May 4, 2012

Again a very likpatous story
If Putin never would have invaded Ukraine if Trump was president, and it's actually a good thing that Putin did it, then doesn't that mean it's good that Biden won instead of Trump?

Neito
Feb 18, 2009

😌Finally, an avatar the describes my love of tech❤️‍💻, my love of anime💖🎎, and why I'll never see a real girl 🙆‍♀️naked😭.

Taerkar posted:

As far as we know neither Zucc nor Musk have the ability to launch nukes.

Give it time.

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

Twelve by Pies posted:

If Putin never would have invaded Ukraine if Trump was president, and it's actually a good thing that Putin did it, then doesn't that mean it's good that Biden won instead of Trump?

See, democrats formed the confederacy, which was bad, but the democrats are going after people who just want to celebrate the good old confederacy.

DarklyDreaming
Apr 4, 2009

Fun scary

Twelve by Pies posted:

If Putin never would have invaded Ukraine if Trump was president, and it's actually a good thing that Putin did it, then doesn't that mean it's good that Biden won instead of Trump?

Any answer would require more ideological, spiritual, intellectual and personal consistency than anyone who currently works in Right Wing Media

Sephyr
Aug 28, 2012

killer_robot posted:

Right wing chuds don't mind Russia right now because it's not Communists. Repubs don't hate Russia as an entity, they hate anything smacking of leftist politics and that's def not the guy in charge now.

The guy in charge now is a right wing, strong armed authoritarian chud who MAY have been a communist at some point in time working under the communists -- but Trump was also left wing once until he got better/memory holed.

He's one of them. They love it.

Pretty much. I remember way back in 2002 when I was researching David Duke, and his page was literally 60% fawning on Russia as the big repository of white, christian, deeply conservative reinforcements to push white power to its peak in the new century.

Brazil's megachud president Bolsonaro was there just last week with his son (and social media handler) to negotiate troll farms and such for the coming election, and actually said "Brazil can help with Russia's defenses". A local right-wing terrorist who firebombed a local humor show fled there, and brazilian police canceled his extradiction request so he can hang there and be happy.

There is still a split because Putin backs people they love to hate, like Maduro, but if people can turn a blind eye to the West fellating Saudi Arabia nonstop, they can accept pretty much anything as long as they see it harming someone they hate.

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OgNar
Oct 26, 2002

They tapdance not, neither do they fart
Teds Aunt Flo is in town again

https://twitter.com/tedcruz/status/1496590934125039625

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