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Sinteres posted:Any chance we could get a rule against WW3 chat since the West has explicitly said they're not getting involved militarily? I mean, not long ago Russia insisted it was not going to invade Ukraine, so . . .
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Stay safe Ukrainian goons. And, yes, Russian goons too. War is hell.
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Heck Yes! Loam! posted:I do fear a copy cat effect or destabilization of other norms. I don't know how you counter this without going full WW3. Strengthen NATO and try to keep China and Turkey neutral or aligned against Russia so if the worst passes it's really Russia vs the world.
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They're showing (on CBS) that there are Russian troops in Moldova as well. Was this already reported on? I wasn't paying as much attention to this thread until the past day or so.
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Despera posted:Well putin literally just warned the west he would start ww3 Dude just wanted to sound generally menacing. Just being a bully, talking tough.
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MadJackal posted:This invasion must not go well for the world to avoid being doomed to various authoritarian wars of conquest over the next decade. Unfortunately the cat is about to be out of the bag that world powers aren't going to risk full scale wars over minor/moderate territory grabs of "lesser" nations. It's one thing to deploy some tens of thousands of troops and drones to the far away land of Afghanistan. It's another to draft up millions of soldiers to help defend territory against a nuclear power. Chapo Trap House said it best a few weeks ago: Putin was sharpening his axe and looking at America and said "Really? Are you REALLY going to go to war over U-loving-kraine? Really?" Yes we would likely win the fight, but we will definitely be wounded by the axe.
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I'm listening to Putin's speech, and I think he just snapped. He said (I paraphrase) that "anyone who tries to interfere with what we're doing will face an immediate rebuke the likes of which has never been seen in your country before." Edit: although I guess this isn't really new for him. dominoeffect fucked around with this message at 04:32 on Feb 24, 2022 |
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Feb 24, 2022 04:28
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Sax Mortar posted:They're showing (on CBS) that there are Russian troops in Moldova as well. Was this already reported on? I wasn't paying as much attention to this thread until the past day or so. In Transnistria? Since 1994. They would, however, be in position to attack Odesa. (Which is where I was born. My stomach really can't take this...)
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Cugel the Clever posted:Can people link these streams? This is Kharkiv, the explosion starts around t-20 minutes or so. Anybody know what that facility would be? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7ZbVufqW3s
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punk rebel ecks posted:Chapo Trap House said it best a few weeks ago: Putin was sharpening his axe and looking at America and said "Really? Are you REALLY going to go to war over U-loving-kraine? Really?" Yes we would likely win the fight, but we will definitely be wounded by the axe. The problem is we've been clear since 2014 we'd never go to war over Ukraine, so its a weird take. Putin is more like a paranoid lover who is seeing cheaters in every bush.
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Sax Mortar posted:They're showing (on CBS) that there are Russian troops in Moldova as well. Was this already reported on? I wasn't paying as much attention to this thread until the past day or so. They’ve been there for decades, look up Transnistria.
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CommieGIR posted:The problem is we've been clear since 2014 we'd never go to war over Ukraine, so its a weird take. Putin is more like a paranoid lover who is seeing cheaters in every bush. Putin was lying about not invading Ukraine for months, so he fully expects the Americans to be doing the same.
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CW: Rocket artillery barrages along the border
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Also if you watch the Kharkiv stream, avoid looking at the chat unless you want to be bombarded by an endless stream of inflammatory statements and every slur known to man.
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I can’t see how we can confirm that this is current footage.
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Why are people automatically assuming that Putin's threat means that he's going to nuke anyone who gets involved in Ukraine?
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punk rebel ecks posted:Unfortunately the cat is about to be out of the bag that world powers aren't going to risk full scale wars over minor/moderate territory grabs of "lesser" nations. It's one of those things where it only takes one military to miscalculate what "lesser" means and hit the wrong country before poo poo blows up literally in our faces. There is no "good" outcome here - the soft power checks on Russia have failed. I'm still not expecting WWIII, but I'm less convinced it won't happen than at any point when Trump was in office and that's saying something. This reminds me of that "Stabbed man: What are you going to do, stab me?" meme. MechanicalTomPetty posted:Also if you watch the Kharkiv stream, avoid looking at the chat unless you want to be bombarded by an endless stream of inflammatory statements and every slur known to man. I wonder if this is Russian troll farms trying to dilute the conversation as much as possible - they're all posting the same things. Fake Edit: Wow 10 minutes is a long time
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They're bombing multiple cities at once. Another account I follow mentioned the Russian strat bomber net going up. EDIT: holy gently caress theres small arms fire in Kyiv rumors are its VDV doing airfield seizure Ashmole fucked around with this message at 04:38 on Feb 24, 2022 |
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cinci zoo sniper posted:I can’t see how we can confirm that this is current footage. There's so much other poo poo going down it probably doesn't matter that much...
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Oh gently caress it’s happening isn’t it? Don’t cancel me, I’m not being Clancy whatever that means
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Ashmole posted:They're bombing multiple cities at once. Another account I follow mentioned the Russian strat bomber net going up. It went up prior to the Putin speech. So that is likely where some of the hits on the cities are coming from.
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I can't get over how Zhirinovsky was only and almost exactly
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The CNN reporter in Kiev said the Ukrainian Interior Minister confirmed the invasion has begun and there have been missile strikes in Kiev.
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OddObserver posted:In Transnistria? Since 1994. They would, however, be in position to attack Odesa. cinci zoo sniper posted:They’ve been there for decades, look up Transnistria. Thanks, honestly was unaware. I was thinking that was what would allow them to get to Odesa so quickly as well so I guess that confirms that.
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Gotta say if this is true I'm not expecting the invasion phase to last very long. https://twitter.com/AlSuraEnglish/status/1496690015946297346
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Sir Bobert Fishbone posted:I can't get over how Zhirinovsky was only and almost exactly Didn't take a big brain to see the timing of the Olympics, winter, mud, etc. and make some educated guesses.
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Sinteres posted:Gotta say if this is true I'm not expecting the invasion phase to last very long. that was fast
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Tomberforce posted:There's so much other poo poo going down it probably doesn't matter that much... You’re right, but I think it’s a fair ask of the thread to do some minimal due diligence for whether if footage can be reasonably attributed to the conflict. This thread will keep moving fast enough for a while, and so we don’t really want to have potentially random footage of MRLS fire in pitch black night.
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What is the Ukranians actual chance of holding a successful defense against Putin for a while? I'm assuming not good? gently caress I wish that rear end in a top hat died of a stroke right now
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CommieGIR posted:The problem is we've been clear since 2014 we'd never go to war over Ukraine, so its a weird take. Putin is more like a paranoid lover who is seeing cheaters in every bush. I would assume that this could be part of a plan of taking Ukraine in pieces over the years? KillHour posted:It's one of those things where it only takes one military to miscalculate what "lesser" means and hit the wrong country before poo poo blows up literally in our faces. There is no "good" outcome here - the soft power checks on Russia have failed. I'm still not expecting WWIII, but I'm less convinced it won't happen than at any point when Trump was in office and that's saying something. Yeah, I agree that in the long run a massive war may be inevitable. Russia: "Okay Ukraine is down, why don't we try a small NATO nation now to test those waters?"
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MadJackal posted:This invasion must not go well for the world to avoid being doomed to various authoritarian wars of conquest over the next decade. The game of capitalist imperialism is hardly new, even if a particularly ruthless and talented player is making one of his biggest moves yet. Just ask the people of Iraq, Afghanistan, or Yemen. Sad to say, I don't think that the success or failure of this particular play is going to change much, particularly with climate change shrinking and shifting the resources that greedy sociopaths around the world are trying to hoard for themselves and their buddies. Seriously, it really is instructive to see Putin as a Russian neocon in the vein of the psychos from the Project for a New American Century. Very little of what he's doing is new, it's just that we're getting a rare opportunity to see it from the outside. Darth Walrus fucked around with this message at 04:44 on Feb 24, 2022 |
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queeb posted:that was fast Wonder if the Turkish transports were a ruse?
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Sinteres posted:Gotta say if this is true I'm not expecting the invasion phase to last very long. true? gently caress that was fast
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TulliusCicero posted:What is the Ukranians actual chance of holding a successful defense against Putin for a while? They took control of Kyiv’s airport almost immediately. This may end up being one of the more lopsided wars in history.
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Sinteres posted:Gotta say if this is true I'm not expecting the invasion phase to last very long. Even in a crushing overall Russian victory over just a few weeks, that kind of seizure is really hard to sustain given the distance behind the front line.
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Sinteres posted:Gotta say if this is true I'm not expecting the invasion phase to last very long. There's no way this is true. To airdrop and take Kiev airport would take dozens of airplanes. We'd see videos of antiaircraft fire of which we're seeing none.
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queeb posted:that was fast That’s a random account with small number of followers, posting sensationalist claims no one else does, at a quick glance. I’d suggest to exercise some scepticism.
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So is everyone going to let Russia take a country? Not saying the US should get involved but gently caress. I don't think Putin's going to stop at Ukraine.
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cinci zoo sniper posted:That’s a random account with small number of followers, posting sensationalist claims no one else does, at a quick glance. I’d suggest to exercise some scepticism.
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