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Youth Decay
Aug 18, 2015

https://twitter.com/TheRickWilson/status/1496694268903182341

Trump doing his best to start WW3 despite being out of office. Should maybe think about not letting this guy on TV after sundown.

And in meme warfare news
https://twitter.com/Ukraine/status/1496716168920547331

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Charliegrs
Aug 10, 2009
CNN is showing video of armored units (either Russian or Belarusian) just driving right through the northern border into Ukraine from Belarus.

dr_rat
Jun 4, 2001
With all the people fleeing the Ukraine, how easy is it for them to actually get into another country to safety. I believe Poland said it would help out with people evacuating, but would it be easy for them to get into places like Moldova, Romania, Hungary, and Slovakia?

I mean who knows if they're checking passports at the moment, if not, oh god are the ques going to be long.

KillHour
Oct 28, 2007


Celexi posted:

I tried taking a screenshot but drm, cnn had a livestream of bielarussian tanks rolling into ukraine

If you're on a PC, it's not DRM - you can take a screenshot of video by disabling HW acceleration in chrome/edge/whatever. If you're on a phone you're SOL.

Youth Decay posted:

https://twitter.com/TheRickWilson/status/1496694268903182341

Trump doing his best to start WW3 despite being out of office. Should maybe think about not letting this guy on TV after sundown.

Earlier in the thread I was going to make a joke that if Trump was in office he would have complimented Russia on attacking Ukraine in his declaration of war on Russia for attacking Ukraine where he claims Russia was smart for attacking Ukraine - a genius move really. But now America's going to go in and kick Russia's rear end for attacking Ukraine and they're going to regret it mark his words.

Turns out I didn't need to bother.

KillHour fucked around with this message at 06:57 on Feb 24, 2022

eke out
Feb 24, 2013



Charlz Guybon posted:

Anyone seen anything else about the Belorussians getting involved? https://twitter.com/NatashaBertrand/status/1496717859107618820

yeah Belarus is effectively a vassal state at this point, no surprise to anyone that their involvement in this invasion is hand-in-glove

Despera
Jun 6, 2011

javi posted:

There's video of tanks coming over the Belarus border. Also looks like it's Belarus and Russia working together.

https://twitter.com/kaitlancollins/status/1496720167723843585

Belarussia is a Russian puppet state

Shes Not Impressed
Apr 25, 2004


https://twitter.com/DAlperovitch/status/1496725593240801280?s=20&t=MOSQ_ql4ysAA2R-ZmJgr1Q

Charlz Guybon
Nov 16, 2010
Holy poo poo.

https://mobile.twitter.com/Billbrowder/status/1496585861110059009

Also, the time delay here is ridiculous. Five minutes would be much better

Young Freud
Nov 26, 2006

Charlz Guybon posted:

Anyone seen anything else about the Belorussians getting involved? https://twitter.com/NatashaBertrand/status/1496717859107618820

Ah Jesus. I wonder if Putin now has enough troops to subjugate Ukraine now.


I'd imagine it's a rather target-rich environment. Bound to hit something.

Paladinus
Jan 11, 2014

heyHEYYYY!!!
The CNN video with tanks crossing Belarusian-Ukrainian border is actually from the checkpoint that is between three countries, so it's not conclusive that those came from the territory of Belarus. There are, however, reports that there was a short tank skirmish on the Belarusian-Ukrainian border near Novaya Huta, which is 100% Belarusian territory, but I couldn't find any videos to confirm this.

Celexi
Nov 25, 2006

Slava Ukraini!

dr_rat posted:

With all the people fleeing the Ukraine, how easy is it for them to actually get into another country to safety. I believe Poland said it would help out with people evacuating, but would it be easy for them to get into places like Moldova, Romania, Hungary, and Slovakia?

I mean who knows if they're checking passports at the moment, if not, oh god are the ques going to be long.

To get to Romania they would need to go through Odessa which the Russian troops won't be helpful, to Moldova through Transnistria, which is Russian controlled. Your only option is Poland.


On CNN Live explosions in Kiev!

Charliegrs
Aug 10, 2009

So who the hell is this guy and why should we believe what he is saying.

Come on people.

Youth Decay
Aug 18, 2015

dr_rat posted:

With all the people fleeing the Ukraine, how easy is it for them to actually get into another country to safety. I believe Poland said it would help out with people evacuating, but would it be easy for them to get into places like Moldova, Romania, Hungary, and Slovakia?

I mean who knows if they're checking passports at the moment, if not, oh god are the ques going to be long.

Romania has also offered to take refugees (I think the number was 500,000) and Slovakia has said they are readying their military to help with the inflow. Hungary and Moldova might be inhospitable (Orban was hesitant to condemn Russia, Moldova has its own Russian puppet separatist state to deal with).

dominoeffect
Oct 1, 2013

Does anyone know what AA capabilities Ukraine has aside from the Stingers it was supplied with?

sticksy
May 26, 2004
Nap Ghost

Charliegrs posted:

So who the hell is this guy and why should we believe what he is saying.

Come on people.

Cofounder and former CTO of Crowdstrike so presumably has pretty good info/natsec connections and insight

Sir John Falstaff
Apr 13, 2010

Young Freud posted:

Ah Jesus. I wonder if Putin now has enough troops to subjugate Ukraine now.

Belarus has 62,000 active military, Russia has a million. It's not nothing, but I suspect it probably won't make a pivotal difference.

Rad Russian
Aug 15, 2007

Soviet Power Supreme!

dominoeffect posted:

Does anyone know what AA capabilities Ukraine has aside from the Stingers it was supplied with?

Besides stingers (which don't do anything against high altitude fighters/bombers), not much. Mostly S-300s and Buk-M1s, i.e. old Russian stuff. Ukraine can only really stop drones and helicopters.

hostile apostle
Aug 29, 2006
:stadia::stadia::stadia::stadia::stadia:
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Charliegrs posted:

So who the hell is this guy and why should we believe what he is saying.

Come on people.

How's this as a source?

https://twitter.com/NatashaBertrand/status/1496726814378668033

Acebuckeye13
Nov 2, 2010
Ultra Carp

Charliegrs posted:

So who the hell is this guy and why should we believe what he is saying.

Come on people.

I believe it's coming from the Ukrainian military's facebook page.

https://www.facebook.com/UkrainianLandForces

what a loving age we live in

Triggerhappypilot
Nov 8, 2009

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dominoeffect posted:

Does anyone know what AA capabilities Ukraine has aside from the Stingers it was supplied with?

A small number of S-300s (not upgraded), KUBs, BUKs, and a small number of (also not upgraded) TORs. Around 50 fighters too, also not significantly upgraded.

Despera
Jun 6, 2011
drat he got burned

Shes Not Impressed
Apr 25, 2004


Charliegrs posted:

So who the hell is this guy and why should we believe what he is saying.

Come on people.

Are you with the Russian MOD denying it?

cr0y
Mar 24, 2005



So while I work on my previous big write-up that I talked about I just have to say that it's impressive how much information is still getting out.

Internet connectivity is going to degrade rather than improve and information flow is going to decrease in actual truth and increase in coordinated propaganda and misinformation as more and more physical strikes take place on physical Telecom infrastructure that could not be compromised via cyber attack. I think it is relatively safe to assume that any place that has any sort of Russian air presence is going to be experiencing widespread cellular and wireless jamming.

If you or someone you know is in this poo poo right now they need to be recording as much as they safely can and dumping it to offline storage as much as they possibly can to preserve evidence if they are not able to get it up under the public internet. If they have old cell phones that don't currently have data plans on them use them as cameras and never connect them to the internet, if they have SIM cards remove them as they should be treated as dumb devices without network connectivity.

Record loving everything. Copy it everywhere.

Establish as many paths of communication as possible between parties, this is obviously easier said than done but make sure you and your loved ones know what to check when it comes to possible updates from people who are not physically in the same vicinity.

cr0y fucked around with this message at 07:13 on Feb 24, 2022

Betty Wight
Jan 1, 2022

I think it’s now dawning on this thread that Putin has to be stopped. A poster above asked you to contact your representatives regarding refugees. I suggest one better: Ukraine needs immediate and substantial military aid. US and NATO air cover would provide substantial discouragement for the Russians to push any further. If Putin wants to start taking sovereign nations he needs to face a severe penalty.

The Bear needs another lesson from the Eagle.

FishBulbia
Dec 22, 2021

MoD declaring phase 1 complete, all Ukr air defenses allegedly neutralized

https://twitter.com/rianru/status/1496728200025899009

Vaginaface
Aug 26, 2013

HEY REI HEY REI,
do vaginaface!

eke out posted:

yeah Belarus is effectively a vassal state at this point, no surprise to anyone that their involvement in this invasion is hand-in-glove

Wasn't Lukashenko getting on Putin's shitlist? Is this an attempt to curry favor?

tagesschau
Sep 1, 2006

D&D: HASBARA SQUAD
THE SPEECH SUPPRESSOR


Remember: it's "antisemitic" to protest genocide as long as the targets are brown.

Charliegrs posted:

So who the hell is this guy and why should we believe what he is saying.

Come on people.

This was repeated by ZDF on live TV just now, citing Reuters as a source.

Inner Light
Jan 2, 2020



Betty Wight posted:

I think it’s now dawning on this thread that Putin has to be stopped. A poster above asked you to contact your representatives regarding refugees. I suggest one better: Ukraine needs immediate and substantial military aid. US and NATO air cover would provide substantial discouragement for the Russians to push any further. If Putin wants to start taking sovereign nations he needs to face a severe penalty.

The Bear needs another lesson from the Eagle.

That would be seen as intervention. Do you want USA intervening in Ukraine?

Tomberforce
May 30, 2006

Removed link - it is a bullshit fake video!

Can't really tell if this is a bullshit fake video or not to be honest. Allegedly Kyiv....

(CW: no violence in video - just planes passing overhead. Still scary poo poo though)

Tomberforce fucked around with this message at 07:46 on Feb 24, 2022

dominoeffect
Oct 1, 2013

Rad Russian posted:

Besides stingers (which don't do anything against high altitude fighters/bombers), not much. Mostly S-300s and Buk-M1s, i.e. old Russian stuff. Ukraine can only really stop drones and helicopters.


Triggerhappypilot posted:

A small number of S-300s (not upgraded), KUBs, BUKs, and a small number of (also not upgraded) TORs. Around 50 fighters too, also not significantly upgraded.

Thanks! Assuming the reports of 5 downed planes are true, what equipment do you think was most likely used? I'm not knowledgeable at all on AA, so I'm just curious how effective the stuff they have is.

dominoeffect fucked around with this message at 07:24 on Feb 24, 2022

Charliegrs
Aug 10, 2009

Shes Not Impressed posted:

Are you with the Russian MOD denying it?

I'm not denying anything. I just think people should post better sources than "random guy saying "Ukraine" shot down some planes". Like the original tweet didn't say anything about a Ukrainian official giving that information.

Like even if he is a good source it's not like people know who the hell he is so at least tell us who he is or it's functionally worthless.

But anyway it's good news. Shoot down all those fascist fucks.

Zotix
Aug 14, 2011



Betty Wight posted:

I think it’s now dawning on this thread that Putin has to be stopped. A poster above asked you to contact your representatives regarding refugees. I suggest one better: Ukraine needs immediate and substantial military aid. US and NATO air cover would provide substantial discouragement for the Russians to push any further. If Putin wants to start taking sovereign nations he needs to face a severe penalty.

The Bear needs another lesson from the Eagle.

Yeah, no I don't think that's going to happen.

Triggerhappypilot
Nov 8, 2009

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Tomberforce posted:

https://twitter.com/SAQI8732/status/1496730226679709698

Can't really tell if this is a bullshit fake video or not to be honest. Allegedly Kyiv....

(CW: no violence in video - just planes passing overhead. Still scary poo poo though)

IIRC this is a several year old video of a Russian airshow. no loving way anyone would be stupid enough to fly that low and slow even to intimidate your enemy.

Agricola Frigidus
Feb 7, 2010
Speaking of Nato - how likely is it that Finland and Sweden are joining up now?

KitConstantine
Jan 11, 2013

Zotix posted:

Yeah, no I don't think that's going to happen.

Not over Ukraine but Russia's other exes are getting nervous:

https://twitter.com/grantstern/status/1496723536156798982?t=nSYqBv3eiwUj8da3PwcOBQ&s=19

KillHour
Oct 28, 2007


Tomberforce posted:

https://twitter.com/SAQI8732/status/1496730226679709698

Can't really tell if this is a bullshit fake video or not to be honest. Allegedly Kyiv....

(CW: no violence in video - just planes passing overhead. Still scary poo poo though)

Edit: I'm wrong - that was compression artifacts, not editing artifacts but I believe the poster above me who said it was an air show.

Acebuckeye13
Nov 2, 2010
Ultra Carp

Tomberforce posted:

https://twitter.com/SAQI8732/status/1496730226679709698

Can't really tell if this is a bullshit fake video or not to be honest. Allegedly Kyiv....

(CW: no violence in video - just planes passing overhead. Still scary poo poo though)

That's almost certainly footage from an airshow with an air raid siren put on top of it. Aircraft are not going to fly that low, in that tight of a formation, in the middle of a combat zone.

punk rebel ecks
Dec 11, 2010

A shitty post? This calls for a dance of deduction.
Unless Russia invades a major NATO country like Poland, I can't imagine any world power intervening.

Celexi
Nov 25, 2006

Slava Ukraini!
https://twitter.com/ELINTNews/status/1496731004249247748


Russian peacekeeping, by murdering people?

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Paladinus
Jan 11, 2014

heyHEYYYY!!!

FishBulbia posted:

MoD declaring phase 1 complete, all Ukr air defenses allegedly neutralized

https://twitter.com/rianru/status/1496728200025899009

I suspect it's part of disinfo campaign to incite panic.

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