[Asia/Oceania] Yellen says she hopes China wont mount retaliation against any steps Washington takes

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Marx Headroom: May 10, 2007; AT LAST! A show with nonono ~~commercials~~!; Fallen Rib

stop making me scroll past that dnd post already jesus christ

# ? Feb 24, 2022 15:57

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# ? May 27, 2024 09:45

JAY ZERO SUM GAME: Oct 18, 2005; Walter.
I know you know how to do this.
Get up.

skipmyseashells posted:

once america falls into a real war there�s gonna be liberals calling for leftist purges

'you're either with us, or against us'

# ? Feb 24, 2022 15:57

vyelkin: Jan 2, 2011

Dreylad posted:

if you recall the Syrian Civil War discourse, anything less that a near constant refrain of condemning Assad and ignoring ISIS meant that you wanted to hug & kiss the Lion of Damascus

assuming that there's a baseline level of knowledge among your fellow cspam posters that Putin is bad and Russia is an authoritarian capitalist country and therefore you don't have to end every post with Putin Delenda Est means that you love Putin and want to hug and kiss him on the lips

# ? Feb 24, 2022 15:58

speng31b: May 8, 2010

many noted cspam posters lust both physically and emotionally for putin to "invade their butt-holes"

# ? Feb 24, 2022 15:58

Archduke Frantz Fanon: Sep 7, 2004

finally the term tankie will mean something again for a new generations of leftists other than being an empty insult

thank you comrade putin

# ? Feb 24, 2022 15:58

Amp: Sep 10, 2010

i want putin to hit these back walls

# ? Feb 24, 2022 15:59

Frosted Flake: Sep 13, 2011; Semper Shitpost Ubique

Dreylad posted:

lol germany must be loving furious

Germany got hosed over too, which I hadn�t considered.

Who were parties to these negotiations?

Zelensky getting played/saving his country I can see with the US in his corner, but if Germany and France were directly involved, why were they not able to get him to close Minsk II and promise to backstop him against a right coup?

# ? Feb 24, 2022 15:59

Happy Noodle Boy: Jul 3, 2002

shirts and skins posted:

https://twitter.com/GirkinGirkin/status/1496854488933715972?t=yv6XQV3OlEzxwflTz7775Q&s=19

https://twitter.com/geekatronr/status/1496860725511348227?s=21

# ? Feb 24, 2022 15:59

Zurtilik: Oct 23, 2015; The Biggest Brain in Guardia

Tiler Kiwi posted:

deal from strength or get crushed every time

# ? Feb 24, 2022 16:00

shirts and skins: Jun 25, 2007; Good morning!

Smh at people bitching about scrolling, clearly been too long since you scrolled past 1500 Avatar memes in LF

# ? Feb 24, 2022 16:01

brugroffil: Nov 30, 2015

vyelkin posted:

assuming that there's a baseline level of knowledge among your fellow cspam posters that Putin is bad and Russia is an authoritarian capitalist country and therefore you don't have to end every post with Putin Delenda Est means that you love Putin and want to hug and kiss him on the lips

ask the admins to install a script that appends "Putin Delenda Est" to every post itt

# ? Feb 24, 2022 16:02

Lastgirl: Sep 7, 1997; Good Morning!
Sunday Morning!

Happy Noodle Boy posted:

https://twitter.com/geekatronr/status/1496860725511348227?s=21

Ah yes, the Palestinian air force

# ? Feb 24, 2022 16:02

Salean: Mar 17, 2004; Homewrecker

the conflict keeps getting compared to hoi4 when in fact its more like the world of tanks map prokhorovka

# ? Feb 24, 2022 16:02

Dante80: Mar 23, 2015

Flavahbeast posted:

maybe they shouldnt have been standing in contested regions while filming the liberation

yeah, gently caress those civilians, filming from their homes.

# ? Feb 24, 2022 16:02

Al-Saqr: Nov 11, 2007; One Day I Will Return To Your Side.

hmm I wonder if the Russians are having a hard time taking major urban centers they haven�t managed any so far

# ? Feb 24, 2022 16:03

Pablo Nergigante: Apr 16, 2002

Vladimir Poopin. Got his rear end

# ? Feb 24, 2022 16:03

Lastgirl: Sep 7, 1997; Good Morning!
Sunday Morning!

You do not got to hand it to Daddy Putin who is tucking Ukraine into bed with a forehead smooch

# ? Feb 24, 2022 16:03

brugroffil: Nov 30, 2015

Dante80 posted:

yeah, gently caress those civilians, filming from their homes.

I think this was mocking Russia's stated justifications

# ? Feb 24, 2022 16:04

spacemang_spliff: Nov 29, 2014; wide pickle

vyelkin posted:

Russian civil society has very little influence over what the Kremlin does. The most likely result is that a whole bunch of antiwar leftists get arrested and beaten up, and maybe sent to labour camps for a few years

well at least there's one thing that doesn't change in this crazy mixed up world, leftists getting persecuted for the crime of not wanting a daycare to eat a cruise missle. it's like an old sweater

# ? Feb 24, 2022 16:04

Algund Eenboom: May 4, 2014

vyelkin posted:

assuming that there's a baseline level of knowledge among your fellow cspam posters that Putin is bad and Russia is an authoritarian capitalist country and therefore you don't have to end every post with Putin Delenda Est means that you love Putin and want to hug and kiss him on the lips

I love Vladimir Putin, sexually and romantically, and while I jack him off to make him cum, I�m going to kiss him and fondle his testicles and prostate region.

# ? Feb 24, 2022 16:04

Dante80: Mar 23, 2015

brugroffil posted:

I think this was mocking Russia's stated justifications

oh, sorry bout that.

# ? Feb 24, 2022 16:05

Mr Hootington: Jul 24, 2008; I'M HAVING A HOOT EATING CORNETTE THE LONG WAY

26% of Americans wanted this lol

# ? Feb 24, 2022 16:05

Frosted Flake: Sep 13, 2011; Semper Shitpost Ubique

Al-Saqr posted:

hmm I wonder if the Russians are having a hard time taking major urban centers they haven�t managed any so far

Deep battle has them bypassed by the first echelon. The hope is that there are local or general surrenders before the second and third echelons have to clear them out.

The Ukrainians didn�t force them into the cities as all the roads are open and bridges apparently unblown, so why bother?

# ? Feb 24, 2022 16:05

Lastgirl: Sep 7, 1997; Good Morning!
Sunday Morning!

Algund Eenboom posted:

I love Vladimir Putin, sexually and romantically, and while I jack him off to make him cum, I�m going to kiss him and fondle his testicles and prostate region.

# ? Feb 24, 2022 16:06

Al-Saqr: Nov 11, 2007; One Day I Will Return To Your Side.

when Vladimir putin helped the fascist murderer of my anarchist Syrian friend get away with mass murder and genocide and sarin gas I said to myself �drat I wanna give putin a big ol� smooch on the lips�

# ? Feb 24, 2022 16:06

Tabletops: Jan 27, 2014; anime

Al-Saqr posted:

hmm I wonder if the Russians are having a hard time taking major urban centers they haven�t managed any so far

there are videos of Russian tanks essentially strolling around Kharkiv. and a video of the Russian flag being raised at Kharkivs central governors office. no idea on the validity of the second one

# ? Feb 24, 2022 16:06

DarkEuphoria: Nov 7, 2012

Algund Eenboom posted:

I love Vladimir Putin, sexually and romantically, and while I jack him off to make him cum, I�m going to kiss him and fondle his testicles and prostate region.

Lastgirl posted:

You do not got to hand it to Daddy Putin who is tucking Ukraine into bed with a forehead smooch

# ? Feb 24, 2022 16:06

Truga: May 4, 2014; Lipstick Apathy

careful now, this kind of posting got fyad closed :v:

# ? Feb 24, 2022 16:07

spacemang_spliff: Nov 29, 2014; wide pickle

Sinteres posted:

This isn't me, someone posted it in D&D:

I have become convinced that C-Spam has essentially become infiltrated by fascists who use left wing talking points and ideology to push people towards fascism.

The invasion of the Ukraine by Russia has no excuse under any leftist frame of thought. Putin�s Russia is not a leftist state in any way or form. It functions as a far-right Oligarchic Kleptocracy where the power of the capitalist Oligarchic corporations are protected completely by the state and by all rule of law. It is in no way an effective Democracy, and opposing party members are poisoned or arrested on trumped up charges.

Within the school of leftist thought you may claim that functionally the United States is the same, I believe there are quite big differences in terms of having somewhat more open elections and allowing freedom of opposing party members. Eitherway, leftists all agree that nothing about the United States political and economical system is �Good.� How you could point to a foreign economic and political system, which is much more unequal, and extremely worse for the proletariat masses as somehow being better because it opposes Westernism is the height of hypocrisy.

The invasion of Iraq was extremely illegal and wrong, but for all it�s bad, at the core of it�s government Sadam Hussein was a dictator that ruled without any elections and without the will of the masses. The only person that directed the nation's policy was him. Alternatively, Ukraine is a nation with an elected president, who represents at least marginally the will of people. The majority of Ukranians want to ally themselves with the west and NATO. Their right to self-determination means they should have every right to do so, just as much as Mexico should have every right to ally itself with China and Russia if its people so desired and elected politicians who would enact such a policy.

Beyond that the justification for war is grossly wrong. There may be Neonazi�s active in Ukraine. There are also Neonazi�s active in Russia, in the US, in nearly every country in Europe, in pretty much every country on the globe. The ideology of Russia is not far from the Neonazi, Putin and the Russian Military differ little from Hitler in their overarching ideology, and only in how willing he is to voice his beliefs publicly. Their concepts come directly from fascist books such as The Foundation of Geopolitics. Fascist politicians are extremely influential in Russian politics. Their main goal has been to push fascism throughout the world. On the world stage there can be no doubt. Beyond the Bourgeoisie, Russia represents the old system - From Monarchism to Imperialism to Feudalism. They are not a friend of the working class in any way or form, and the goal of Russia is to retrench the world back towards reactionary ideologies and nationalism by creating an alliance of fascist nationalist states similar to their own.

Saying you are invading Ukraine to denazify it is like saying you are invading Chile to decommunize it. Recent elections there did involve a coalition with communist parties, for example.

Russians activity in Syria leaves little imagination or justification to the effect that they represent the entrenched upper classes. The Syrian war was essentially a class conflict, brought on by a famine in the countryside that pushed the poor impoverished agricultors into the cities who were summarily ignored by the Syrian Dictator Bashar-Al Assad. The war started due to class conflict between the poor impoverished masses and the capitalist Dictatorship rulers. Russia could have supported left-leaning groups such as the YPG and other organizations focused on improving the conditions of the poor in Syria via socialism. They did not because they do not represent leftism nor are friends of leftists in any way or form. Russia will always side with the bourgeoisie and ruling classes and if you continue to support them and they win they will be happy to enact fascist dictatorships throughout the world.

When you defend the invasion of Ukraine you are essentially defending fascism. You are defending a reactionary response to democracy. You are defending Russian Imperialism, Russian Oligarchy, Nationalism and Fascism. There is no way around it.

For as much as you may hate NATO and the US or the West there is no defense for Russia and their actions here. There is nothing leftist about this and if members of C-Spam are defending the Russian invasion of the Ukraine they are defending fascism and inviting its spread through Europe, the US and the rest of the world. I have serious doubts that any of the posters who defend these things are actual leftists, if anything I believe they are fascists who have infiltrated the forums long ago and use left-wing talking points to push fascism. We can see that throughout the internet this has been a common tactic used by Fascists on other social media networks and forums.

In the days pre-internet, when thought was printed, the spread of news took forever - and the quantity of opinions was limited. Freedom of speech was essential. Just as with guns, we have evolved, in the past we had invented simple revolvers, and they may be acceptable for some self defense use. But as technology has advanced so have weapons, instead of revolvers we have AR-15s and semi-automatic weapons in the hands of common people who use them in ways that are irresponsible and dangerous. These weapons of mass war don�t belong in the hands of common people. As weapons technology has advanced so has the internet and social media. In this day and age freedom of mass speech and spread of misinformation from groups with very little actual power is as dangerous as a machine-gun.

I call on Jeffrey and the rest of SA to either shut down C-SPAM or investigate and ban potentially subversive fascist posters in that forum. They are not doing anyone any good and they are in fact potentially pushing people down a pigeonhole that radicalizes them towards far-right ideologies. I say this from personal experience. This is dangerous.

lol he managed to both call left wingers fascists but also defend the invasion of Iraq. hats off to them

# ? Feb 24, 2022 16:07

sexpig by night: Sep 8, 2011; by Azathoth

Al-Saqr posted:

hmm I wonder if the Russians are having a hard time taking major urban centers they haven�t managed any so far

is there even a real 'invasion force' going in? It seems like they're still in the air focused part where they're hammering bases and all. I imagine there's not much urgency on the ground for Russia.

# ? Feb 24, 2022 16:07

John Charity Spring: Nov 4, 2009; SCREEEEE

Tabletops posted:

there are videos of Russian tanks essentially strolling around Kharkiv. and a video of the Russian flag being raised at Kharkivs central governors office. no idea on the validity of the second one

that was from 2014 supposedly

# ? Feb 24, 2022 16:08

sexpig by night: Sep 8, 2011; by Azathoth

Algund Eenboom posted:

I love Vladimir Putin, sexually and romantically, and while I jack him off to make him cum, I�m going to kiss him and fondle his testicles and prostate region.

# ? Feb 24, 2022 16:08

Atrocious Joe: Sep 2, 2011

Sinteres posted:

This isn't me, someone posted it in D&D:

I have become convinced that C-Spam has essentially become infiltrated by fascists who use left wing talking points and ideology to push people towards fascism.

The invasion of the Ukraine by Russia has no excuse under any leftist frame of thought. Putin�s Russia is not a leftist state in any way or form. It functions as a far-right Oligarchic Kleptocracy where the power of the capitalist Oligarchic corporations are protected completely by the state and by all rule of law. It is in no way an effective Democracy, and opposing party members are poisoned or arrested on trumped up charges.

Within the school of leftist thought you may claim that functionally the United States is the same, I believe there are quite big differences in terms of having somewhat more open elections and allowing freedom of opposing party members. Eitherway, leftists all agree that nothing about the United States political and economical system is �Good.� How you could point to a foreign economic and political system, which is much more unequal, and extremely worse for the proletariat masses as somehow being better because it opposes Westernism is the height of hypocrisy.

The invasion of Iraq was extremely illegal and wrong, but for all it�s bad, at the core of it�s government Sadam Hussein was a dictator that ruled without any elections and without the will of the masses. The only person that directed the nation's policy was him. Alternatively, Ukraine is a nation with an elected president, who represents at least marginally the will of people. The majority of Ukranians want to ally themselves with the west and NATO. Their right to self-determination means they should have every right to do so, just as much as Mexico should have every right to ally itself with China and Russia if its people so desired and elected politicians who would enact such a policy.

Beyond that the justification for war is grossly wrong. There may be Neonazi�s active in Ukraine. There are also Neonazi�s active in Russia, in the US, in nearly every country in Europe, in pretty much every country on the globe. The ideology of Russia is not far from the Neonazi, Putin and the Russian Military differ little from Hitler in their overarching ideology, and only in how willing he is to voice his beliefs publicly. Their concepts come directly from fascist books such as The Foundation of Geopolitics. Fascist politicians are extremely influential in Russian politics. Their main goal has been to push fascism throughout the world. On the world stage there can be no doubt. Beyond the Bourgeoisie, Russia represents the old system - From Monarchism to Imperialism to Feudalism. They are not a friend of the working class in any way or form, and the goal of Russia is to retrench the world back towards reactionary ideologies and nationalism by creating an alliance of fascist nationalist states similar to their own.

Saying you are invading Ukraine to denazify it is like saying you are invading Chile to decommunize it. Recent elections there did involve a coalition with communist parties, for example.

Russians activity in Syria leaves little imagination or justification to the effect that they represent the entrenched upper classes. The Syrian war was essentially a class conflict, brought on by a famine in the countryside that pushed the poor impoverished agricultors into the cities who were summarily ignored by the Syrian Dictator Bashar-Al Assad. The war started due to class conflict between the poor impoverished masses and the capitalist Dictatorship rulers. Russia could have supported left-leaning groups such as the YPG and other organizations focused on improving the conditions of the poor in Syria via socialism. They did not because they do not represent leftism nor are friends of leftists in any way or form. Russia will always side with the bourgeoisie and ruling classes and if you continue to support them and they win they will be happy to enact fascist dictatorships throughout the world.

When you defend the invasion of Ukraine you are essentially defending fascism. You are defending a reactionary response to democracy. You are defending Russian Imperialism, Russian Oligarchy, Nationalism and Fascism. There is no way around it.

For as much as you may hate NATO and the US or the West there is no defense for Russia and their actions here. There is nothing leftist about this and if members of C-Spam are defending the Russian invasion of the Ukraine they are defending fascism and inviting its spread through Europe, the US and the rest of the world. I have serious doubts that any of the posters who defend these things are actual leftists, if anything I believe they are fascists who have infiltrated the forums long ago and use left-wing talking points to push fascism. We can see that throughout the internet this has been a common tactic used by Fascists on other social media networks and forums.

In the days pre-internet, when thought was printed, the spread of news took forever - and the quantity of opinions was limited. Freedom of speech was essential. Just as with guns, we have evolved, in the past we had invented simple revolvers, and they may be acceptable for some self defense use. But as technology has advanced so have weapons, instead of revolvers we have AR-15s and semi-automatic weapons in the hands of common people who use them in ways that are irresponsible and dangerous. These weapons of mass war don�t belong in the hands of common people. As weapons technology has advanced so has the internet and social media. In this day and age freedom of mass speech and spread of misinformation from groups with very little actual power is as dangerous as a machine-gun.

I call on Jeffrey and the rest of SA to either shut down C-SPAM or investigate and ban potentially subversive fascist posters in that forum. They are not doing anyone any good and they are in fact potentially pushing people down a pigeonhole that radicalizes them towards far-right ideologies. I say this from personal experience. This is dangerous.

Jeffery needs to de-Nazify C-SPAM

# ? Feb 24, 2022 16:08

In Training: Jun 28, 2008

Mr Hootington posted:

26% of Americans wanted this lol

is the us even going to do anything beyond sending more military equipment.

# ? Feb 24, 2022 16:08

vyelkin: Jan 2, 2011

spacemang_spliff posted:

well at least there's one thing that doesn't change in this crazy mixed up world, leftists getting persecuted for the crime of not wanting a daycare to eat a cruise missle. it's like an old sweater

people I know in Russia are doing things like going out to antiwar protests where they are almost certain to be beaten up and arrested and maybe worse, and writing and signing open letters calling for the war to stop and Putin to resign even though they know doing so might risk them losing positions like being professors at Russian universities, because they know they should stand up and do something and these are the avenues open to them

Russian leftists are very, very brave people but the state does not listen to them and actively represses them whenever they stick their head above water. Please, everyone posting in this thread, remember that neither of these countries is a monolith. Putin does not represent all Russians, the Azov Battalion does not represent all Ukrainians, and actual good people are going to suffer and die because of what is happening right now

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Crusader: Apr 11, 2002

https://twitter.com/ragipsoylu/status/1496863457513447424

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Pepe Silvia Browne: Jan 1, 2007

Algund Eenboom posted:

I love Vladimir Putin, sexually and romantically, and while I jack him off to make him cum, I�m going to kiss him and fondle his testicles and THE prostate region.

ftfy

# ? Feb 24, 2022 16:08

Tabletops: Jan 27, 2014; anime

John Charity Spring posted:

that was from 2014 supposedly

I had a feeling

# ? Feb 24, 2022 16:08

sexpig by night: Sep 8, 2011; by Azathoth

Crusader posted:

https://twitter.com/ragipsoylu/status/1496863457513447424

welp there's the start of the end if Ukraine is already acknowledging territory loss

# ? Feb 24, 2022 16:09

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Stanley Pain: Jun 16, 2001; by Fluffdaddy

sexpig by night posted:

is there even a real 'invasion force' going in? It seems like they're still in the air focused part where they're hammering bases and all. I imagine there's not much urgency on the ground for Russia.

Yes.

https://twitter.com/marceldirsus/status/1496852655918170119

# ? Feb 24, 2022 16:10

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