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Omnicarus posted:If the US invaded canada it would also be because of Poutine. to support our allies, the curds? (sorry, i'm sorry)
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libs doing the whole "Vote!" thing but with ukraine/russia really encapsualtes how loving broken they are
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Feb 24, 2022 18:31
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Gresh posted:went to bed 4 hours ago and just woke up apparently they're gonna take kyiv soon
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Feb 24, 2022 18:31
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Joementum posted:to support our allies, the curds? And the MIL that's in on the gravy train
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Feb 24, 2022 18:31
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pissinthewind posted:libs doing the whole "Vote!" thing but with ukraine/russia really encapsualtes how loving broken they are they don't want to understand the world or why things happen they just want to be right online
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Feb 24, 2022 18:31
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gradenko_2000 posted:If we take the liberal interventionist view that it is imperative to stop Putin, that indeed any price must be paid to stop him, because the long-run cost will amount to thousands if not millions more lives as he takes even more than just Ukraine... yeah like libs and neocons have been screeching for regime change in russia for like a decade now
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Feb 24, 2022 18:33
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gradenko_2000 posted:If we take the liberal interventionist view that it is imperative to stop Putin, that indeed any price must be paid to stop him, because the long-run cost will amount to thousands if not millions more lives as he takes even more than just Ukraine... https://twitter.com/antontroian/status/1496892257638748163?s=20&t=qMr8i4n79jKBvkG7u9ox4g
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Feb 24, 2022 18:33
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the holy poopacy posted:Presumably they're not looking to completely absorb Ukraine. They smash Ukraine's military, carve off a couple choice bits, stick in a puppet government, maybe leave a few "military advisors" around, and now they have a buffer state under their thumb (which is what they wanted in the first place.) it's this imo it's also inline with what Putin said in his war speech yesterday: a military operation to demilitarize and denazify Ukraine essentially means turning Ukraine into a neutered buffer state that can never have an anti-Russian government and can never threaten Russia militarily
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Feb 24, 2022 18:33
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WoodrowSkillson posted:truly, less countries around russia would desire to be a part of a mutual defense organization after this whoopsie doodles
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Feb 24, 2022 18:34
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brugroffil posted:Weird how many countries have joined NATO and yet there has never been an attack on Russia. I guess "immediate" means "may decide to turn aggressive at some indeterminate point in the future and invade a nuclear power for ???" in 2008 NATO explicitly trained, financed and directed an attempted invasion of russia lol
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Feb 24, 2022 18:34
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i've been in work meetings all morning and am very late to this but what is the strategic value in capturing what is arguably the most blighted unusable land on the face of the earth not a rhetorical question i think i'm just dumb, is putin really trying to get an "i'll demolish the sarcophagus and turn all of continental europe into an irradiated wasteland" ace up his sleeve? e: or is it because he thinks ukraine/nato would do something stupid with it, which honestly is much more believable
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Feb 24, 2022 18:34
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vyelkin posted:it's this imo so a second Belarus
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Feb 24, 2022 18:35
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pancake rabbit posted:i've been in work meetings all morning and am very late to this but what is the strategic value in capturing what is arguably the most blighted unusable land on the face of the earth theres a highway nearby and bridges over the dniper
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Feb 24, 2022 18:36
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https://twitter.com/proetrie/status/1496634051775586310
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pancake rabbit posted:i've been in work meetings all morning and am very late to this but what is the strategic value in capturing what is arguably the most blighted unusable land on the face of the earth someone said there's an important bridge in the area so just river crossings e: V it hasn't been a power generating plant for decades but maybe they still have important substations for transmission there. Cutting off critical infrastructure is important!
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Feb 24, 2022 18:36
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pancake rabbit posted:i've been in work meetings all morning and am very late to this but what is the strategic value in capturing what is arguably the most blighted unusable land on the face of the earth It's part of da grid
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Feb 24, 2022 18:36
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Why are people freaking about this more than the war with Georgia? Isn't it basically the same thing but with a different country?
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Feb 24, 2022 18:37
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Gripweed posted:Why are people freaking about this more than the war with Georgia? Isn't it basically the same thing but with a different country? ukranians are considered white while georgians arent
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Feb 24, 2022 18:37
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Opioid posted:if the concern is NATO on their borders, won’t they just create an issue once they take over Ukraine? would the next step be demanding Poland leave NATO because it poses a threat and they don’t want a bordering nation to be a NATO member? when poland got invited the natsec ghouls were all saying ukraine was the buffer and russia should be happy with that
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Feb 24, 2022 18:37
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pancake rabbit posted:i've been in work meetings all morning and am very late to this but what is the strategic value in capturing what is arguably the most blighted unusable land on the face of the earth I’m guessing the nuclear plant was built there because the city is in a good location to move things like power lines (or troops) to several major cities.
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Feb 24, 2022 18:37
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I laughed at this more than I should have.
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Feb 24, 2022 18:38
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https://twitter.com/W7VOA/status/1496901934464180248?s=20&t=qMr8i4n79jKBvkG7u9ox4g
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Feb 24, 2022 18:38
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absolute hero
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Feb 24, 2022 18:38
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Malleum posted:in 2008 NATO explicitly trained, financed and directed an attempted invasion of russia lol how dumb do you think they felt after not blowing up the one tunnel into georgia pancake rabbit posted:i've been in work meetings all morning and am very late to this but what is the strategic value in capturing what is arguably the most blighted unusable land on the face of the earth  very direct road from russia to kyiv there
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Feb 24, 2022 18:39
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Look, NATO's long history of never attacking Russia forces Moscow to pre-emptive self defense measures of invading their neighbors in the interest of peace.
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Feb 24, 2022 18:39
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vyelkin posted:it's this imo in a way this has some similarity to the Sino-Vietnamese War, where the goals are measured in political aims, not territorial gains
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Feb 24, 2022 18:39
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Vernii posted:Look, NATO's long history of never attacking Russia forces Moscow to pre-emptive self defense measures of invading their neighbors in the interest of peace. 
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Feb 24, 2022 18:40
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if ur saying bad things about the people my guy said good things about it is you who are the alt-right maniacal laughter
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Feb 24, 2022 18:40
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https://twitter.com/pvermillions/status/1496133137319043082
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Feb 24, 2022 18:40
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lol
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Feb 24, 2022 18:41
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WoodrowSkillson posted:truly, less countries around russia would desire to be a part of a mutual defense organization after this honest question, which other countries do you think are going to join NATO after this? This is NATO's current membership:  there are a whole three countries in Europe that border Russia and are not already members of NATO: Finland, the country that Russia wants its neighbours to emulate ("Finlandization" is a term that was used for one potential end state for Ukraine); Belarus, Russia's closest ally and client state; and Ukraine. who else is going to join? Moldova, which already has part of the country occupied by Russia? Georgia, which already has part of the country occupied by Russia and which already lost a war to Russia over this in 2008? Armenia, a Russian ally that hates NATO member Turkey? NATO has made it clear that they're not going to support non-NATO members against Russia and they're not going to let in countries that have existing territorial disputes with Russia, and Russia has now made it clear that overtures to NATO can be catastrophic. Russia isn't surrounded by some infinite number of foreign countries that will decide to join NATO after this. Ukraine is by far the biggest, strongest, and most populous of Russia's European neighbours. Given that NATO already covers almost the entire continent, it should be comprehensible why Russia wants to draw a line in the sand here - there isn't much more for them to lose on the issue of NATO expansion.
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Feb 24, 2022 18:41
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Suzerainty is back,
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Feb 24, 2022 18:41
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pancake rabbit posted:i've been in work meetings all morning and am very late to this but what is the strategic value in capturing what is arguably the most blighted unusable land on the face of the earth it's a major electrical substation for Ukraine's electricity grid and it is right next to a big bridge on the highway to Kyiv
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Feb 24, 2022 18:42
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*slamming fist on keyboard* does putin not realize we are a global hegemony!
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Feb 24, 2022 18:42
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never mind there was an imminent threat go get 'em tiger
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Feb 24, 2022 18:42
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saw a ghoul earlier talking about russia invading the danzig corridor to connect with kaliningrad they can’t help but frame this as a marvel movie - a plucky group of multi-billionaires just need to abuse the mentally ill to stop Vladimir Thanos
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Feb 24, 2022 18:43
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lmao
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Feb 24, 2022 18:44
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belching a mouth full of Cheetos while waiting for a raid in FF14 “PUTIN HAS GONE TOO FAR aGAINST THE WEST”
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vyelkin posted:honest question, which other countries do you think are going to join NATO after this? and everybody advising Zelensky knew this and then encouraged him to terminate diplomatic talks anyways.
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