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Franks Happy Place posted:Buddy I promise you, if GIGN was the one taking an airport, everyone in possession of a rusty musket for 500 miles around the point of attack would have been warcrimed into oblivion the night before. Syria's not halfway around the world, but I think they have plenty of recent experience with airstrikes. Plus now Ukraine obviously, though it seems like they've been relatively cautious with their targeting so far (which I don't expect to continue if they get bogged down)
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Feb 24, 2022 22:06
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Paracausal posted:just catching up but wow, Putin is going to try and ride this out on his stolen billions and throw the rest of Russia to the wolves It lost only 45% because they closed market trading. It was in free fall, and rouble is at its lowest point since 2014, if not since devaluation. With extra sanctions from US announced, and from U.K. and EU somewhere close, Russian market is going to take additional battering in the days to come.
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Feb 24, 2022 22:07
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Al-Saqr posted:Are those Russians? Is there any indications that the Russians have broken into downtown Kharkiv? Not that I've seen. Here's the video I mentioned earlier about the bridge being blown. Apparently the car survived, yay! https://twitter.com/WarsontheBrink/status/1496944043338567691
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Popete posted:The economic damage this is going to do in the long run to Russia really does not seem worth it for fairly minor territorial gains unless I'm missing out on some vitally important reason for Russia to want to occupy Ukraine. We’re only 24 hours into this invasion the rest of Ukraine will get swallowed up over the next couple weeks if the momentum keeps up
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I kinda think putin had a stroke and got brain damage, or maybe just followed the trend of recent american presidents and developed dementia/alzheimer's. The latter is really hard to notice, as the transition is usually across years, and putin being a tyrannical despot probably doesnt have any checks and balances, or people close to him, which can curb his damaging behavior. It's often happens like the person acts almost completely normally, except for specific things, like just refuses to wear a jacket despite it being freezing outside. Or randomly invades a country despite there only being downsides to it. Even the most ardent putin supporters itt were super convinced, less than a week ago, that it was all a big biden/cia hoax and that putin would never ever attack, because it would be so stupid. I guess it could also just be a massively bloated ego and being incapable of understanding that ukraine might reject his demands and suddenly he realizes he'll lose his precious strongman identity if he doesn't go to war.
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TulliusCicero posted:Genuinely surprised: Germany's army is 4 guys with 3 helmets and 2 guns standing near a very nice tank that probably doesn't have any fuel or ammunition
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Popete posted:The economic damage this is going to do in the long run to Russia really does not seem worth it for fairly minor territorial gains unless I'm missing out on some vitally important reason for Russia to want to occupy Ukraine. Way earlier we had Russian posters (or those who had family there anyway) saying it was a bit of a running gag domestically that Putin loved spending all his time playing around with foreign policy type stuff, and couldn't give a poo poo about like important but dry domestic stuff. If we take that to it's extreme conclusion then perhaps he genuinely doesn't care about that kind of fallout.
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TulliusCicero posted:Maybe the airport got shelled so hard it opened a rift in reality, one where the Russians occupy the airport and one where the Ukranians repulsed them exist at the same time Gonna need Schrödinger's ATC (air traffic controller) to remedy that
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Feb 24, 2022 22:08
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Franks Happy Place posted:Buddy I promise you, if GIGN was the one taking an airport, everyone in possession of a rusty musket for 500 miles around the point of attack would have been warcrimed into oblivion the night before. French forgien legion still exists doesn't it? And still has some of the most well trained Merc forces as part of it? Like the stories of the gherkas alone is terrifying
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Popete posted:The economic damage this is going to do in the long run to Russia really does not seem worth it for fairly minor territorial gains unless I'm missing out on some vitally important reason for Russia to want to occupy Ukraine. i get the personal feeling that russia underestimated ukraine's ability to resist invasion
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ZENRUS is updated with new graphics! https://zenrus.ru Rouble dipped to 90 / USD for a while, but now is up a bit to 85
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Feb 24, 2022 22:09
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Majorian posted:Not that I've seen. You'd think they would barrier it off or something...
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Paracausal posted:just catching up but wow, Putin is going to try and ride this out on his stolen billions and throw the rest of Russia to the wolves I hope Putin had a well-diversified portfolio. Otherwise, he just made his own net worth drop by billions.
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Feb 24, 2022 22:09
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now we're getting into the cool zone https://twitter.com/COUPSURE/status/1496954831545810944
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Al-Saqr posted:We’re only 24 hours into this invasion the rest of Ukraine will get swallowed up over the next couple weeks if the momentum keeps up I thought the consensus was Russia wouldn't have the resources to take all of Ukraine (and hold it)? I suppose this is all just speculation, we'll know in a few weeks where things are likely headed.
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UCS Hellmaker posted:French forgien legion still exists doesn't it? And still has some of the most well trained Merc forces as part of it? France, like America, is probably killing somebody somewhere in the world right now this minute in a dirty war we've never heard of. They do like half the world's counterterrorism murders, its kind of their thing.
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Grape posted:Way earlier we had Russian posters (or those who had family there anyway) saying it was a bit of a running gag domestically that Putin loved spending all his time playing around with foreign policy type stuff, and couldn't give a poo poo about like important but dry domestic stuff. so what are the chances poo poo turns against him domestically.
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Feb 24, 2022 22:11
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Grape posted:Way earlier we had Russian posters (or those who had family there anyway) saying it was a bit of a running gag domestically that Putin loved spending all his time playing around with foreign policy type stuff, and couldn't give a poo poo about like important but dry domestic stuff. It's worth noting that he's shown a desire to shift more power to the Prime Minister, the post under the President, and appointed the closest Russia has to a technocrat to that post in 2020. He's been the head of the Russian government for twenty years, it may be that he's frankly bored of the administrative side of things and wants to deal with great politics.
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Feb 24, 2022 22:12
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steinrokkan posted:Congrats to proud Ukrainian tools What? Grape posted:Way earlier we had Russian posters (or those who had family there anyway) saying it was a bit of a running gag domestically that Putin loved spending all his time playing around with foreign policy type stuff, and couldn't give a poo poo about like important but dry domestic stuff. He has very clear disdain for doing domestic politics, and frequently comes out of touch when talking to normal people. Got forbid he gets asked a question, that’s “a litre of milk costs £17” territory right there.
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Revelation 2-13 posted:I kinda think putin had a stroke and got brain damage, or maybe just followed the trend of recent american presidents and developed dementia/alzheimer's. The latter is really hard to notice, as the transition is usually across years, and putin being a tyrannical despot probably doesnt have any checks and balances, or people close to him, which can curb his damaging behavior. It's often happens like the person acts almost completely normally, except for specific things, like just refuses to wear a jacket despite it being freezing outside. Or randomly invades a country despite there only being downsides to it. Someone I know is pondering if Putin has a terminal illness or something. Perhaps there is something there?
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I think that a Russian conventional military victory is a sure thing but this really does seem like Putin has potentially bitten off more than he can chew in the long run. Like at minimum pretty much the entirety of Eastern Europe, even mostly neutral countries like Finland, seem really incensed by this which will probably strengthen their ties to NATO in the long run, and whats the plan for Ukraine exactly? Occupation of half the country with a simmering irregular war against the Russians? Attempting to topple the government and replace it with a rickety pro-Russian puppet most of the country will hate?
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Popete posted:I thought the consensus was Russia wouldn't have the resources to take all of Ukraine (and hold it)? debatebly but it sounds like Putin is gonna take the whole thing, especially if his dead start pilling up.
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The United States generally has a warped view on France but yeah they are one of the top "Do not gently caress with" nations in the world.
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cinci zoo sniper posted:What? The tweet says Ukrainian tools are getting the upper hand
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Paracausal posted:now we're getting into the cool zone My new favourite strategy, taking American astronauts hostage.
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Paracausal posted:now we're getting into the cool zone Holy poo poo they are actually going to do a (comparitively tiny) colony drop  We in Gundam now. Is this the 00 Timeline or UC If that's true that's tantamount to a small warhead
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Popete posted:I thought the consensus was Russia wouldn't have the resources to take all of Ukraine (and hold it)? My point isn’t this my point is that at this point it’s too early to tell that Ukraine is gonna put up a long term heroic resistance, right now overall the momentum is with the Russians and the real telltale signs of how the war is going will be over the next four-five days if Russia can take any major urban centers or not. We’re only one day into this.
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I feel like the French army is perfectly fine but the us right made a big deal with France being super weak so the us left has to talk up that the French army is actually the strongest in the universe and could fight god when it’s mostly just a normal army that is not super special In either direction.
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steinrokkan posted:The tweet says Ukrainian tools are getting the upper hand Oh I’m blind, sorry. I was losing my mind trying to figure out what was the joke there.
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Yureina posted:Someone I know is pondering if Putin has a terminal illness or something. Perhaps there is something there? There has been a lot of media speculation about that over the years, frequently revolving around the fact that he doesn't move his right arm when he walks. But it was always bullshit, because that's actually KGB/FSB tradecraft. So I wouldn't place too much hope/expectation on that hypothesis.
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Alchenar posted:https://twitter.com/eucopresident/status/1496950779332096000/photo/2 He has a wife and two young kids. I wonder if they're safe. On one hand, it would be unfair if he used his position as president to get them out. On the other, they're probably in more danger than your average Ukrainian.
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Al-Saqr posted:My point isn’t this my point is that at this point it’s too early to tell that Ukraine is gonna put up a long term heroic resistance, right now overall the momentum is with the Russians and the real telltale signs of how the war is going will be over the next four-five days if Russia can take any major urban centers or not. We’re only one day into this. Yes, overall momentum toward conventional military victory.... and then what?
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khwarezm posted:I think that a Russian conventional military victory is a sure thing but this really does seem like Putin has potentially bitten off more than he can chew in the long run. i think he just doesn't care at this point. he wants his imperial glory and even if that means losings dozens of soldiers a week in a lovely occupation after a grinding horror show campaign and his economy decimated/etc.
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cinci zoo sniper posted:We have no details. We (kind of) know it was 31st VDV, so almost literally the best infantry brigade Russia has, think Russian MARSOC. We also know that they held the airfield for half a day, and that Ukrainians ended up escalating to tanks and artillery fire. If I had to make a guess, they got blow up alongside their cover. If only I'd played more Europa Universalis, I would be able to use my sun tzu war mind to confidently extrapolate the outcome of this against Russia's next 7 turns of gameplay, like i'm watching happen elsewhere. Instead, I'll just go "big if true" because that's pretty much .. yeah.
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Paracausal posted:now we're getting into the cool zone Between this and fighting over Chernobyl, it's been a weird loving day.
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Do we know what's happening with the Russian and Ukrainian navies? Was the Kuznetsov part of the 'drills' and it's fulfilling its role as a mobilea smokescreen over the Black Sea or was it still dry docked at the time?
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William Bear posted:He has a wife and two young kids. I wonder if they're safe. Given Russia's history of how it deals with the families and children of defeated heads of state, yeah, I'd be worried about his wife and children's safety.
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Dapper_Swindler posted:i think he just doesn't care at this point. he wants his imperial glory and even if that means losings dozens of soldiers a week in a lovely occupation after a grinding horror show campaign and his economy decimated/etc. Yeah I'm with you on this, dude doesn't care about anything else at this point than his "Greater Russia, Putin Restorer of borders" delusion That's why I think he's terminal: this is last days in the bunker poo poo
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