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steinrokkan posted:If they aren't, how is posting pictures "cheerleading executions"? I don't know, you brought it up so you tell me?
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steinrokkan posted:What makes you assume Ukraine is executing POWs? That's a serious allegation to throw around This person would not be a POW. Like I, and others have said, a non-uniformed enemy combatant captured behind the lines is an unlawful enemy combatant, by category a spy or saboteur. Even under the current governing Geneva Protocols that govern armed conflict, Ukraine would be within its rights to have shot him where and when he was captured. That being said, I don’t think anyone is suggesting the Ukrainians actually did this.
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TheRat posted:I don't know, you brought it up so you tell me? ??? "cheerleading the execution of people whos pictures are linked in here"
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steinrokkan posted:??? ZombieLenin posted:Sucks to be that guy. I don’t know how Ukraine feels about capital punishment, but the Geneva Protocols still allow for non-uniformed combatants operating behind the front lines to be unceremoniously shot. How are u posted:It's what he deserves. They'll probably hold onto him, but they'd be well within their rights. Stuff like this is just grotesque.
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My Russian wife spent the past couple of hours arguing with her sister. The sister claims the war was started by the US, NATO and the EU and also somehow these three did nothing to stop the war. While Ukraine was committing genocide on the people of Donetsk and Lughansk. Meanwhile some of my Russian friends tried to go to protest against the war, but have been messaged on the way that protesters are being beaten and detained so they turned back. Instead they watched Threads with their teenage daughter to get her up to speed with the situation.
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While some posters debate the hypothetical execution of a spy https://twitter.com/AmichaiStein1/status/1496980437293535242?s=20&t=rNggpunWPXfyY3gr8imX2g https://twitter.com/ELINTNews/status/1496980171576037376?s=20&t=rNggpunWPXfyY3gr8imX2g
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Kavros posted:What that particular captured individual was doing, if accurate, puts one in "spies and saboteurs" category, which is deeply, deeply pressured against even in the highest, ponciest Marquess of Queensberry Rules styles of 'civilized' war. usually meant you just got unceremoniously shot. Yeah I'm not sure that he would actually qualify as a POW if facts alleged are true.
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ZombieLenin posted:Well, when you’re invaded by Russia and the fate of your loving country is on the line, don’t you think it’s best to say, “hey it’s okay for your families to leave, but men of fighting age need to stick around just in case.” im more referencing the fact that untrained conscripts are just an absolutely terrible military force, so the fact theyre resorting to this awful option illustrates ukraine's dire straits
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A big flaming stink posted:im more referencing the fact that untrained conscripts are just an absolutely terrible military force, so the fact theyre resorting to this awful option illustrates ukraine's dire straits Typically conscripts are trained.
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What was the point of the Russians capturing Chernobyl anyway?
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We're not even caught up on the news yet, but got home to see my fiancée having a breakdown at this poo poo and it sucks. It kinda felt coming on, but the actual thing kicking off did it in. She, we really, didn't think it would escalate to actual war. It feels awful. I don't know what to do. When she speaks russian to me I know it's serious. Mercifully she's safe and her family here in the US and back in Russia and Kazakhstan are safe. But I hate myself for not feeling her pain, and hate both of us because this is certainly far easier than the people who have loved ones never coming home have it. I don't even know if I should use english or my broken russian to comfort her. Part of me is pissed at the world for putting another target on her back as being a russian with a russian accent in the US she'll have to live with forever. It feels really selfish when people are dead but still. I ordered some god tier cajun banh mis and I'm going to make some sweet potato fries and some chili ketchup for them cuz I know she loves both those things. I wish I could do something better or more. In short gently caress war and gently caress nationalism, forever.
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A big flaming stink posted:im more referencing the fact that untrained conscripts are just an absolutely terrible military force, so the fact theyre resorting to this awful option illustrates ukraine's dire straits Agreed. And that age range is insane, what’s a 60 year old man gonna do? Just let them flee
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i am a moron posted:Rangers aren’t ‘SF’ imo they’re conventional quick reaction light infantry rolled up under SOCOM I would say the 75th Regiment is SF, no? There's a difference between Ranger school and RASP. Obviously, there are more elite levels in the US Army and other branches and further.....I really don't know what I'm talking about.
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Charliegrs posted:What was the point of the Russians capturing Chernobyl anyway? Ukrainian troops were guarding it. It has a bunch of bridges, on the route to Kyiv. Has sections of the Ukrainian power grid connected up to it.
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Charliegrs posted:What was the point of the Russians capturing Chernobyl anyway? It's on an important transportation route, is still a fairly important junction in the power grid, and had Ukrainian forces there for the preceding two reasons.
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Charliegrs posted:What was the point of the Russians capturing Chernobyl anyway? There’s a power juncture there, that’s still operational, but I don’t know if it’s internal or transit. If transit then it doesn’t mean much, since Ukraine did unplug from Russian and Belarus energy grids last night. In that case, the utility might be in flanking the ground forces between Belarus and Kyiv.
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Charliegrs posted:What was the point of the Russians capturing Chernobyl anyway? It was between them and Kyiv, there are bridges over the Pripyat river, and there were already some Ukranian troops there.
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Baronjutter posted:Spoke with family in St. Petersburg, they moved there recently from Kiev for job reasons and hoping to take advantage of better Russian pensions. They hate Putin and generally don't really get into politics like my family in Ukraine who are raving right wing anti-vaxxer conspiracy folk. They watched Putin's war declaration and found it quite compelling. "Everything is he said was unfortunately true about Ukraine".
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A big flaming stink posted:im more referencing the fact that untrained conscripts are just an absolutely terrible military force, so the fact theyre resorting to this awful option illustrates ukraine's dire straits Ukraine has mandatory military service.
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Pablo Bluth posted:https://www.saveecobot.com/en/radiation-maps#13/51.3847/30.0673/gamma/comp+cams+fire how does one read that map? Like, what's bad and what's ye gods we're doomed levels?
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WH Presser said that USAID is deploying a disaster response team to Ukraine for the humanitarian disaster. I'll hold off until I see it put out in a statement I can link here.
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Pablo Bluth posted:https://www.saveecobot.com/en/radiation-maps#13/51.3847/30.0673/gamma/comp+cams+fire Wait what? I hope neither side is dumb enough to destroy the containment shield?
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Pablo Bluth posted:https://www.saveecobot.com/en/radiation-maps#13/51.3847/30.0673/gamma/comp+cams+fire I'm very stupid, could they use this to poison the Kyiv water supply since it is downriver?
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The guy on the left looks like he’s seen some poo poo. That’s definitely the 1000 yard stare.
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Mooseontheloose posted:how does one read that map? Like, what's bad and what's ye gods we're doomed levels?
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Oh, that's interesting department: Sean Penn is on the ground in Ukraine filming a documentary about Russia’s invasion
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Mooseontheloose posted:how does one read that map? Like, what's bad and what's ye gods we're doomed levels? 1 mSv is the limit for your average Joe Public per year. The hot spots there are about .655 mSv per hour. It's not a ton. A CAT scan is like 20 mSv. Wikipedia says the maximum dose estimated for Fukushima refugees was 68 mSv. But it is nothing to sneeze at. tracecomplete fucked around with this message at 00:01 on Feb 25, 2022 |
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Mooseontheloose posted:how does one read that map? Like, what's bad and what's ye gods we're doomed levels? If you click on the dots, you can see readings from the past few days. Today's reading is 25x what yesterday's was.
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Shes Not Impressed posted:While some posters debate the hypothetical execution of a spy seems pretty loving bad for a modern army.
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keyframe posted:Wait what? Intentionally no, unintentionally is totally possible.
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:Part of me is pissed at the world for putting another target on her back as being a russian with a russian accent in the US she'll have to live with forever. It feels really selfish when people are dead but still. just pretend to be ukrainian. unless its' prairie canada they won't be able to tell.
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Pablo Bluth posted:https://www.saveecobot.com/en/radiation-maps#13/51.3847/30.0673/gamma/comp+cams+fire maybe just stirring dust and such from all the recent activity?
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TheRat posted:Stuff like this is just grotesque. I don’t mean to be flippant, but yes it is; then again so is invading a country without justification. Also I’m the category of grotesque is the entire process of warfare which is, even following the letter of the the ‘rules’ of war to exacting detail, is designed to kill, maim, or seriously injure the soldiers of the opposing belligerent. Legal weapons of war including those that kill by any number of methods outside of biological and chemical warfare, or for those who countries who are signatories to the 1997 treaty prohibiting the use of anti-personal mines—land mines. A great example of one of the more grotesque and legal weapons of war (they ALL are grotesque and sort of the anthesis of humane) are those designed to kill, maim, or injure by burning humans to death.
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It seems to be in nanosieverts per hour, which means the spike is to the scale of 10s of microsieverts per hour. I’m not a nuclear scientist and don’t really know how to translate individual device measurements to larger scale implications, but one sievert of exposure correlates to a significant elevation in cancer risk.
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Pablo Bluth posted:https://www.saveecobot.com/en/radiation-maps#13/51.3847/30.0673/gamma/comp+cams+fire Do you have any useful insight instead of scaremongering? What do these numbers mean?
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Dapper_Swindler posted:seems pretty loving bad for a modern army. It's worth keeping in mind that all armies in all wars have been overreporting enemy casualties A LOT, even when you take out the pure bragging nonsense kills.
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