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EvilHawk posted:https://twitter.com/LindseyMastis/status/1497189682878291981 Two hundred!?
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Nenonen posted:Rest assured, Ukraine, your northern ally is coming to save you This actually goes against Eurovision rules which says that politics and political statements are not allowed, that's why Hatari got in trouble during the Israel contest.
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EvilHawk posted:https://twitter.com/LindseyMastis/status/1497189682878291981 They also insist they suffered no losses so lol As usual, use Russian state sources only as source for mockery
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This footage https://twitter.com/RALee85/status/1497148586240327686 seems to have been recorded in the vicinity of this area. So it does look like the Russians have established a foothold around Hostomel and surroundings.
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I'm wondering who is going to fortify Rodina-mat and try to weaponize 'ol tin tits
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Somaen posted:https://twitter.com/bazabazon/status/1497172726779371523 They're flying Russian flags though?
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https://twitter.com/iaponomarenko/status/1497194377306902532ummel posted:They're flying Russian flags though? Erm, what’s your expectation here?
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This is surreal to watch. I can't imagine waking up one day and just being handed a rifle and told to fight a professional army. https://twitter.com/michaelh992/status/1497176351111008265
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ummel posted:They're flying Russian flags though? the post wasn't explicit but the Kadyrov Chechens are fighting on the side of the Russians in Donbas already. this is just an extension.
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https://twitter.com/iaponomarenko/status/1497191462240460824 Seeing photons of a kindergarten shelled, with corpses out in the view. Not linking. mightygerm posted:This is surreal to watch. I can't imagine waking up one day and just being handed a rifle and told to fight a professional army. Volunteering means something different than what you just said.
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cinci zoo sniper posted:[url]https://twitter.com/iaponomarenko/status/1497194377306902532[./url] Misread as going to Ukraine to as fight for Ukraine. gently caress. My brother-in-law just got conscripted at the Moldova border too, despite receiving a medical waiver for training when he was a kid. ummel fucked around with this message at 14:24 on Feb 25, 2022 |
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I can accept that attempting to split Ukraine in half and installing a Russian puppet is Putin's likely plan, and he can definitely capture the capital and put a puppet "in charge" but the obvious next question is "And then what?", and I don't think Putin has a good answer for that. He's been attacking Ukraine for 8 years, then put out a ridiculous nonsense rant about how Ukraine isn't real, rolled in with tanks and bombs, and then asks Ukrainian soldiers to turn on the Ukrainian government. Then he's expecting to quickly pop in an obvious puppet and he thinks that the people will just smile and nod and leave the puppet in place? That's nuts. That puppet isn't going to have enough support from the people to enforce his will, so the Russian troops would have to stay, and that means a long and bloody occupation because you can't pacify 22 million very angry people with 200,000 troops. Sheer lunacy.
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Charlz Guybon posted:In 1904 the Russian navy on it's way to the Pacific sank a British fishing fleet in the channel because they were convinced they were Japanese torpedo boats. That's overstating things quite a lot. They sank one trawler and damaged a half-dozen others, as well as shooting a couple of their own ships. Efficiently slaughtering a fishing fleet was kind of beyond their gunnery and coordination capabilities.
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cinci zoo sniper posted:https://twitter.com/iaponomarenko/status/1497191462240460824 The president ordered compulsory conscription.
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fatherboxx posted:What the gently caress is this It's a 25000 dollars fire and forget weapon. But sure put a table ontop and see if that works. (it loving won't)
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fatherboxx posted:What the gently caress is this That’s called wishful thinking
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Tankers have a long and storied history of doing pretty much anything to make their vehicles more survivable. Sometimes it has some niche advantages, more often it just adds weight and additional garbage to the vehicle. I assume nobody ever cracks down on it because they reckon the tankers will fight better if they feel they've got additional protection, whether that protection physically does anything or not.
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Kamrat posted:This actually goes against Eurovision rules which says that politics and political statements are not allowed, that's why Hatari got in trouble during the Israel contest. This has nothing to do with that. Rules prohibit acts from being political. But boycotts are nothing out of ordinary. Russia boycotted the 2017 ESC when host Ukraine didn't grant visa to their chosen rep because she (Yuliya Samoylova) had visited occupied Crimea. Arab members have boycotted ESC since the 80's because of Israel. Armenia boycotted ESC when it was held in Azerbaijan. And so on. Also, Belarus is currently totally suspended from EBU because of repressing their journalists and therefore isn't in ESC. Finland can boycott ESC, it's her prerogative. Whether EBU agrees to exclude Russia depends presumably on the Executive Board?
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Affi posted:It's a 25000 dollars fire and forget weapon. But sure put a table ontop and see if that works. (it loving won't) It actually works.
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Somaen posted:https://twitter.com/bazabazon/status/1497172726779371523 well war crimes for sure now.
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Tanks used to put wooden logs up as additional side protection. The additional protection was negligable to non-existent afaik but the crews must have felt better.
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Nenonen posted:This has nothing to do with that. Rules prohibit acts from being political. But boycotts are nothing out of ordinary. Russia boycotted the 2017 ESC when host Ukraine didn't grant visa to their chosen rep because she (Yuliya Samoylova) had visited occupied Crimea. Arab members have boycotted ESC since the 80's because of Israel. Armenia boycotted ESC when it was held in Azerbaijan. And so on. Also, Belarus is currently totally suspended from EBU because of repressing their journalists and therefore isn't in ESC. Yes, what I was commenting on was the call for ESC to bar Russia as I don't think they can do that.
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Switzerland won't even freeze bank accounts for Russian leaders involved in this invasion. Not surprising, but still wholly pathetic. The proposed measures prevent them from putting more money into their Swiss accounts, but not from spending or using what they currently have. Also apparently 80% of Russian commodities trading goes through Switzerland? https://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/switzerland-faces-dilemma-over-russia-sanctions/47376184 I guess taking neutrality seriously has been a thing for 150 years, but still sometimes, god drat.
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My mom's friend from the Hostomel area apparently stayed put until this morning like an idiot and is now she and her daughter are stuck in traffic on the way west. Glad they're ok but wtf. Apparently rockets hit Vorzel and Bucha and destroyed some houses.
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Lord Stimperor posted:Tanks used to put wooden logs up as additional side protection. The additional protection was negligable to non-existent afaik but the crews must have felt better. AFAIK it's also common enough for Orthodox priests to bless military hardware, including tanks and planes and anti-aircraft, which I can't imagine improves the armour rating either
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It sounds like Russia is willing to accept a Ukrainian surrender, with ceasefire talks in Minsk. Sadly feels like a matter of time whether that happens before or after Kyiv falls.
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EvilHawk posted:It sounds like Russia is willing to accept a Ukrainian surrender, with ceasefire talks in Minsk. Sadly feels like a matter of time whether that happens before or after Kyiv falls. I don't think Ukraine is going to surrender. They are going to turn Kyiv into a meatgrinder. Its one of the largest cities in Europe. Besides: Why would Ukraine assume Russia wants to honor any sort of agreement?
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mightygerm posted:This is surreal to watch. I can't imagine waking up one day and just being handed a rifle and told to fight a professional army. My great uncle, a Jew born somewhere near the modern polish / Ukrainian border, would tell a story of escaping from a Nazi work camp and eventually bumping into the Russian army, where he was conscripted and given a gun, a horse, and food. He quickly got away from the Russians, ditched the horse and gun, and ate the food.
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fatherboxx posted:What the gently caress is this It looks like it’s just a flat surface to put stuff on
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Apparently, some lessons seen from the 1st day of fighting from a veteran and military analyst... https://twitter.com/RealCynicalFox/status/1497142318083805184?s=20&t=UupUnmszMGqVClaz8Ud0EA https://twitter.com/RealCynicalFox/status/1497143302856097794?s=20&t=UupUnmszMGqVClaz8Ud0EA https://twitter.com/RealCynicalFox/status/1497143574948888579?s=20&t=UupUnmszMGqVClaz8Ud0EA https://twitter.com/RealCynicalFox/status/1497143878360739840?s=20&t=UupUnmszMGqVClaz8Ud0EA https://twitter.com/RealCynicalFox/status/1497144257219641346?s=20&t=UupUnmszMGqVClaz8Ud0EA https://twitter.com/RealCynicalFox/status/1497144780358365185?s=20&t=UupUnmszMGqVClaz8Ud0EA
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CommieGIR posted:I don't think Ukraine is going to surrender. They are going to turn Kyiv into a meatgrinder. Its one of the largest cities in Europe. That's a lot of meat to grind, then. Russia can just surround the city, cut electricity, gas and water and bombard them to submission. It's going to be just like Stalingrad, except Ukrainians are the surrounded 6th Army.
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Nenonen posted:That's a lot of meat to grind, then. Russia can just surround the city, cut electricity, gas and water and bombard them to submission. It's going to be just like Stalingrad, except Ukrainians are the surrounded 6th Army. Its optics, and Russia actually doesn't have that many people in the field. If Russia starts sieging Kyiv, its unlikely they'll be able to ever take it without making Russa look worse and worse. Regardless: Why would anyone, given what has happened in the past weeks, assume Russia is going to honor some sort of cease fire or any agreement. That's literally why we're in this situation. Russia intends to round people up, they have openly said they have lists. I doubt most people are willing to guess whether or not they are on that list.
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boofhead posted:AFAIK it's also common enough for Orthodox priests to bless military hardware, including tanks and planes and anti-aircraft, which I can't imagine improves the armour rating either Judging by last day, the Machine Spirit has long abandoned the russian aircraft and tanks
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mightygerm posted:The president ordered compulsory conscription. He did indeed. I thought you were referring strictly to the tweet posted, my bad.
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CommieGIR posted:Regardless: Why would anyone, given what has happened in the past weeks, assume Russia is going to honor some sort of cease fire or any agreement. That's literally why we're in this situation. Russia intends to round people up, they have openly said they have lists. I doubt most people are willing to guess whether or not they are on that list. Ukraine has negotiated with Russia before and has expressed willingness to negotiate now.
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I wish Zelensky and his family had moved to Lviv with a good plan for how to evacuate to Poland. It seems like he's a decent leader who has made the best of a horrible situation, and the odds of a Russian puppet government failing seems a lot higher if he's alive and not imprisoned. Also, although I do not want Ukraine to surrender, I'm not going to act like they're quitters or cowards if they do. This is a lopsided war and everything the West is doing will make at best a marginal difference in the short run, as Ukraine undergoes enormous suffering and destruction.
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Nenonen posted:That's a lot of meat to grind, then. Russia can just surround the city, cut electricity, gas and water and bombard them to submission. It's going to be just like Stalingrad, except Ukrainians are the surrounded 6th Army. Perhaps, but I do not believe it will be fun for the russians either. In a warsav siege style scenario I would expect them to be harassed by guerillas
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