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Boris Galerkin posted:Is there a good write up of what banning Russia from swift would do? I’m not familiar with how banks work. SWIFT is a dollar denominated ATM for energy supplies. It announces and records transactions. Denial to SWIFT makes it a pain in the rear end for Russia, to sell and buy, heightens the symbolism of their isolation, but there are alternate ATM's. China has a mechanism for instance, because they strategically wish to provide alternatives to dollar denominated markets. Iran has an alternative. Which is a reason the US is somewhat nervous about this. Putin has about 600B in foreign exchange reserves. Denying him access to the West's banks so he can't sell reserved curriencies would be the "nuclear" option, not SWIFT.
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Shes Not Impressed posted:https://twitter.com/ChristopherJM/status/1497280684196564998?s=20&t=RQ4AGQLl9q4MCyLyyr-8aQ Target rich environment... For the Ukrainians that is
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OwlFancier posted:I think the vehicle that drove over the car was fitted with a missile launcher, which I think is usually on a large tower on the back so it can aim up to hit aircraft. They are both Strela-10s mounted on the MT-LB chassis. The launcher has to be deployed, it swings down for transit. I can't see very well but these are definitely the same type.
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I would like to thank the posters who are sharing explicit material with appropriate NMS and censor tabs on their URLs because while we should avoid any turns toward war porn not only do I think it's important that we see and understand the consequences of this awful exchange of violence, such material also help the willing get a better reality of what's going on the ground. I know its a hard balance to mod and to treat respectfully, I hope there can be as respectful a place as possible for it here in this thread. I know that's asking a lot. This is a high speed war and I'm taken aback at how rapidly people have been killed the last two days. That said I have a huge fondness for Russians and Russia the massive cultural space in general (I adore Russian food, art, music, film and all the many ways Russians and the positive ways the global diaspora has impacted the world) and this war makes me sad on levels its hard to adequately express here. I spent a lot of my time in Los Angeles with Russians, Belarussians, Ukrainians and Armenians, living with and befriending a bunch. I've been talking with my Belarussian friend there whose family left right before Lukashenko locked it all down, she's been heartbroken about what her country has done to assist Russia. For a period I was WW2 reenactor in a soviet unit and our "commissar" in the unit was a VDV afghan war vet with two tours who fled to the US before the wall fell, a really friendly (and intimidatingly slavic) dude who taught me a lot about the soviets, their propaganda and filled my heart with stories of how resilient Russians got by and thrived in their own ways despite the USSR. I honestly think that stripped of political rivalry trappings formed so arbitrarily by politics Slavs and Americans tend to get along. In some ways we're the same type of rear end in a top hat, and I say that lovingly. But this war just feels like a cycle of history repeating itself and a part of me is really resigned to that. The causes/excuses for this war feel like the type of thing that people outside the realm of the pan-slavic world might have a hard time wrapping their head around, the arguable origin starts with the Kievan Rus and flows from there. It's hard to know what comes next with how sloppy and destructive the Russian invasion has been. From the outset it feels like they've failed in every respect, are unifying the world against them, are strengthening NATO and pulling the world towards a larger war in the future. I know that we are to avoid clancychat but anyone who doesn't see this as the start of a new normal are fooling themselves.
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Shes Not Impressed posted:https://twitter.com/ChristopherJM/status/1497280684196564998?s=20&t=RQ4AGQLl9q4MCyLyyr-8aQ Where's the Ghost when you need them?
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Eric Cantonese posted:Or you get a very dangerous arms race where Taiwan tries to buy as much anti-ship and anti-aircraft weaponry as possible. If they haven't started both of these already they're making a mistake.
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Triggerhappypilot posted:They are both Strela-10s mounted on the MT-LB chassis. The launcher has to be deployed, it swings down for transit. I can't see very well but these are definitely the same type. Ah right, didn't know it could retract, makes sense though as I suppose it would be awkward to drive otherwise.
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OwlFancier posted:I think the vehicle that drove over the car was fitted with a missile launcher, which I think is usually on a large tower on the back so it can aim up to hit aircraft. Nah it looks like the same vehicle.
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Edmond Dantes posted:Could someone paste/type the "go gently caress yourself" (I know it wasn't literal) part in Ukrainian? My understanding follows: иди нахуй
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Russia's booted from Eurovision. Maybe this will make them reconsider invading Ukraine.
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I'm on west coast time so I don't know if this was posted 100s of posts back: https://nv.ua/ukr/ukraine/events/ukrajinskiy-vinishchuvach-znishchiv-rosiyskiy-litak-50219978.html Video of "Ghost of Kyiv" shooting down a Russian jet
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Well I misphrased that. I know that there are somethings worth dying for. However I think it's usually better to live. Living is better than dying, at least in my opinion. I don't think that what the average Ukranian person is choosing to do is foolish or what have you. What I mean is that I cannot really understand glorifying it. It's people dying. It's horrible, it should be important to remember how utterly horrible this all is. Like take the folks on snake island. We've turned what could be their last words, the last words of some living actual people, into a gang tag on a comedy forum. I just think it so deeply profoundly saddening and such an utter waste of life and of people. It's horrible and awful, and to treat this in any other way seems so utterly alien to me.
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Shes Not Impressed posted:I'm on west coast time so I don't know if this was posted 100s of posts back: I think that's the one that was confirmed as video game footage
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ronya posted:https://twitter.com/EuromaidanPress/status/1497279698027659274 It depends, are the drivers Polish or not?
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Mokotow posted:At the border now between Poland and Ukraine. Absolute mess, cold, terrified people coming through every once in a while. Since there’s no organization, me and some likeminded people waiting but despite the government announcements people will be free to go through, only cars are coming. I already have contacts to someone on the other side but they’re saying it’ll be two hours for them to cross. gently caress its cold. I would like to send you at least gas money. If they need food I would also remunerated you.
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Shes Not Impressed posted:https://twitter.com/ChristopherJM/status/1497280684196564998?s=20&t=RQ4AGQLl9q4MCyLyyr-8aQ Im not a military head, but parking helicopters in a line in a random field isn't exactly efficient. Surely there has to be a base the pilots are in, wouldn't you have all your vehicles close to run to?
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Vaginaface posted:How much of this is Ukrainian military success, how much of this is Russia slowing as peace talks begin? Typically you don't slow down a successful offensive when peace talks start: you accelerate them to put yourself into a better bargaining position. The exception is that if reducing hostilities is somehow beneficial to your bargaining position. Shes Not Impressed posted:NATO jets and ships on high alert does feel like an escalation I wasn't expecting. It's likely the commercial shipping that has them spooked. It's also possible (though I'm speculating 100% here) that there are air-to-air encounters that don't result in shooting but aren't getting reported. Trump posted:As someone mentioned earlier it's almost certainly cluster submunitions. And thats what real explosions are, extreme kinetic force. Yeah, less fireballs and more things just getting thrown around and/or ripped apart. It's the wet season in Ukraine so not as much dust as you may have seen from footage in e.g. Afghanistan and Iraq.
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TheRat posted:I think that's the one that was confirmed as video game footage At least it's got a decent framerate then.
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CommieGIR posted:For those who want it or those who donated to the relief thread, we are working on a gangtag by goon Loden Taylor Since this thread has been getting a lot of traffic recently in addition to the D&D thread, I thought I would repost the information for the SA relief thread.
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TheRat posted:I guess I'm broken by Michael Bay becausee I expected a lot more of a blast than that. Looks almost purely kinetic. Movies typically use small explosive charges and containers of gasoline to make huge fireballs. Real high explosives send out a supersonic blast front that tends to blow fires out, but mostly just tears poo poo up.
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happyhippy posted:Im not a military head, but parking helicopters in a line in a random field isn't exactly efficient. Eh, highways are flat, that would be easy to have trucks with fuel and ammo move down, and it's easy to navigate to/away. An airbase is better, but airstrips are really just wide roads for planes, and helicopters are meant to land and takeoff from lots of terrain types.
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CommieGIR posted:Yeah at this point the whole "why do anything if death is possible" seems to question the whole human condition in some weird way. It also makes no sense logically, as the arrow of time points only in one direction: Entropy. Not doing anything because of death is kind of pointless, it's the process, the way towards death, that's important, not the inevitable end point. While trying to avoid death for as long as possible is understandable, you also want to avoid not living, so at some point you'll be forced to do something to avoid a fate worse than death. Personally, that's why I rank freedom a lot higher than peace. You can have peace after you're dead, and lots of it, after all! Freedom is a lot rarer. Josef bugman posted:Nothing is worth dying for. There are a million things worth living for, but I am a bit weirded out by how many people seem so blasé about their own and other people's lives. Case in point, this is a dumb opinion, a purely emotional one. "I don't want to die, therefore dying is always bad", in a nut shell. To point out the obvious error, if all those millions of things worth living for are taken away by someone, what would you do? Fight to try and get them back, at the possible cost of death, or just die? One thing is a healthy response, one is not. "Nothing is worth dying for" is one of those empty platitudes people have absorbed from Hollywood-movies, I suspect. FAKE EDIT So to prevent this post from just being philosophizing, here is something I haven't seen posted yet: NATO moves units of the fast responce force into Eastern Europe, speculation about maybe Norway and Romania being the targets for reinforcement. Online Translation posted:NATO deploys rapid reaction force to deter Russia
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TheRat posted:I think that's the one that was confirmed as video game footage Do you have a source on this by chance?
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Josef bugman posted:Like take the folks on snake island. We've turned what could be their last words, the last words of some living actual people, into a gang tag on a comedy forum. I just think it so deeply profoundly saddening and such an utter waste of life and of people. It's horrible and awful, and to treat this in any other way seems so utterly alien to me. Last words of defiance have always echoed in men's hearts. "I only regret that I have but one life to lose for my country." "If you want them, come and claim them."
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happyhippy posted:Im not a military head, but parking helicopters in a line in a random field isn't exactly efficient. This is pretty routine. For example, U.S. helicopter operations often have holding or staging areas in the middle of nowhere that are used to coordinate/refuel/etc. Some of the early casualties the U.S. suffered invading Afghanistan were helicopter crashes due to brown out conditions in the middle of nowhere Pakistan.
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How are u posted:Last words of defiance have always echoed in men's hearts. America's best contribution to the genre is 100%, "NUTS."
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TheRat posted:Isn't that the one that was involved in the crash earlier? Yes, that must be the same MT-LB Strela plaftorm unless there's a chronic issue of them being stolen from both sides and driven around parks and over vehicles.
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Josef bugman posted:Nothing is worth dying for. There are a million things worth living for, but I am a bit weirded out by how many people seem so blasé about their own and other people's lives. I am an atheist, and against wars, but there are plenty of things worth dying for. My child for one for whose life I would gladly trade mine. I would vastly prefer to live for my son, but if the choice was my life for his I would not hesitate. There are other things worth dying for too. My grandfather risked his life, was at both Utah and Omaha beaches on D-Day, to end the specter of Nazism in Europe. I am proud of him for this, and believe absolutely that fighting and possibly dying against the closest thing to human evil that has ever existed was absolutely “worth it.”
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DeliciousPatriotism posted:big post Just want to quote this to confirm that based on personal experience most Russians are extremely cool and fun people and it sucks that they are ruled by war mongering gangsters.
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Franks Happy Place posted:America's best contribution to the genre is 100%, "NUTS." I'm also a fan of "come on you sons of bitches, do you wanna live forever?"
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dominoeffect posted:Do you have a source on this by chance? Search this thread for DCS
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Telsa Cola posted:It depends, are the drivers Polish or not? I have no idea, I'm hoping someone here does! In the meanwhile: https://twitter.com/markito0171/status/1497282601521926145 https://twitter.com/NotWoofers/status/1497280504986488837 I also don't know how effective WW2-vintage equipment like these can possibly be - I think a modern MBT is both too low and too heavy? - but it's probably excellent for morale and symbolism
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